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Bill Wright December 27th 08 12:44 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a programme I
have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent this?

Bill



Mark Carver December 27th 08 01:09 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a programme I
have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent this?


Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.

Unofficially there may well be hacks, but be prepared to enter a scary world
inhabited by those souls that moved in here for a while, when OnDigital
hacking was at its peak.


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Bill Wright December 27th 08 02:44 PM

BBC iPlayer
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent
this?


Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.


That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record it
somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded in it?
Something that ticks?


Unofficially there may well be hacks, but be prepared to enter a scary
world inhabited by those souls that moved in here for a while, when
OnDigital hacking was at its peak.

Ohh, I remember them. All mouth and no trousers if you ask me.

Bill



Adrian C December 27th 08 03:01 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
Mark Carver wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I
prevent this?


Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.


Ye are not supposed to be able to even *remember* the programme after
seven days of last seeing it. Some scriptwriters have honed the skill of
making particularly Christmas programs unmemorable, so they seem fresh
replayed the following year.

If ye let on to someone else details of the plot, or even start
whistling the signature tune while walking down the street - a converted
TV License detector van will pull up at the pavement and it's antenna
broadcast mind-wiping beam will zap the back of ye head.

The BBC will claim that this will save them money fielding the number of
complaints about repeat showings.

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Ivan[_2_] December 27th 08 03:24 PM

BBC iPlayer
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent
this?


Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.


That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record it
somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded in
it? Something that ticks?




Apparently it's a bit of a tedious way of doing it but if you have a
graphics card with an SVHS output, set the iPlayer to download in high
quality and then feed the SVHS output into a standalone DVD recorder..
allegedly it works quite well, or so I've been told..


John Rumm December 27th 08 03:36 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
Bill Wright wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent
this?

Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.


That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record it
somehow?


That is on option. You can get screen video capture programs that will
basically allow you to mark an area of screen to capture and will record
whatever is there along with any audio.

What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded in it?
Something that ticks?


DRM - Digital Rights Management, often accompanied by encryption to stop
you accessing the files content directly (or at least in any usable
way). Some of the expiry systems are daft enough to fall for the old
change the system date routine, but I don't know about iPlayer.


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Peter Duncanson December 27th 08 03:52 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:24:50 -0000, "Ivan" wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent
this?

Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.


That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record it
somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded in
it? Something that ticks?




Apparently it's a bit of a tedious way of doing it but if you have a
graphics card with an SVHS output, set the iPlayer to download in high
quality and then feed the SVHS output into a standalone DVD recorder..
allegedly it works quite well, or so I've been told..


I've done that experimentally once.

Ivan[_2_] December 27th 08 04:03 PM

BBC iPlayer
 

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:24:50 -0000, "Ivan" wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I
prevent
this?

Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.

That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record it
somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded in
it? Something that ticks?




Apparently it's a bit of a tedious way of doing it but if you have a
graphics card with an SVHS output, set the iPlayer to download in high
quality and then feed the SVHS output into a standalone DVD recorder..
allegedly it works quite well, or so I've been told..


I've done that experimentally once.


A bit like Audiograbber which can rip streaming audio and convert it
directly into an Mp3 file.. it has to be done in real time admittedly, but
no really big deal if one wants to listen to a program at a time and place
of 'their' choosing.




Bill Wright December 27th 08 04:22 PM

BBC iPlayer
 

"Ivan" wrote in message
...
Apparently it's a bit of a tedious way of doing it but if you have a
graphics card with an SVHS output, set the iPlayer to download in high
quality and then feed the SVHS output into a standalone DVD recorder..
allegedly it works quite well, or so I've been told..


I thought it might come down to that. I already had a little play and it
looks like it would work.

Bill



JR[_2_] December 27th 08 06:38 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
Ivan wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I
prevent this?

Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.


That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record
it somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something
embedded in it? Something that ticks?




Apparently it's a bit of a tedious way of doing it but if you have a
graphics card with an SVHS output, set the iPlayer to download in high
quality and then feed the SVHS output into a standalone DVD recorder..
allegedly it works quite well, or so I've been told..


There is a piece of software which does it without the cables
(FairUse4WM is one but there are others)

Essentially it plays the file DRM and all but recaptures it in realtime
to a DRM free file. Much better quality than cable
digital-analogue-digital method.

A New Day December 28th 08 11:20 AM

BBC iPlayer
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a programme
I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent this?

Bill



after 7 days, frog and pumpkin come to mind.



Brian Gaff December 28th 08 11:35 AM

BBC iPlayer
 
No trousers as they tended to fly by the seat of their pants, and pants was
often the result of the hacks as well.
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent
this?


Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.


That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record it
somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded in
it? Something that ticks?


Unofficially there may well be hacks, but be prepared to enter a scary
world inhabited by those souls that moved in here for a while, when
OnDigital hacking was at its peak.

Ohh, I remember them. All mouth and no trousers if you ask me.

Bill





Brian Gaff December 28th 08 11:38 AM

BBC iPlayer
 
What no comments about Dogs yet?
Brian

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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:24:50 -0000, "Ivan" wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I
prevent
this?

Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.

That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record it
somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded in
it? Something that ticks?




Apparently it's a bit of a tedious way of doing it but if you have a
graphics card with an SVHS output, set the iPlayer to download in high
quality and then feed the SVHS output into a standalone DVD recorder..
allegedly it works quite well, or so I've been told..


I've done that experimentally once.




Brian Gaff December 28th 08 11:43 AM

BBC iPlayer
 
Its got to the point these days where even the podcasts have to have music
or rights restricted items removed before they are made available. Cannot
help wondering if the industry is not shooting itself in the foot here. The
cost of all this DRM and restriction must surely outweigh the losses or
potential losses of copying. Many see drm as a challenge that is worth
defeating, and I cannot say I blame them.

Brian

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"Ivan" wrote in message
...

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:24:50 -0000, "Ivan"
wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a
programme I have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I
prevent
this?

Officially you can't. It's all to do with programming rights, etc.

That's what I suspected. But surely I can play the file and re-record
it
somehow? What's special about the file? Has it got something embedded
in
it? Something that ticks?




Apparently it's a bit of a tedious way of doing it but if you have a
graphics card with an SVHS output, set the iPlayer to download in high
quality and then feed the SVHS output into a standalone DVD recorder..
allegedly it works quite well, or so I've been told..


I've done that experimentally once.


A bit like Audiograbber which can rip streaming audio and convert it
directly into an Mp3 file.. it has to be done in real time admittedly, but
no really big deal if one wants to listen to a program at a time and place
of 'their' choosing.






Roderick Stewart[_2_] December 28th 08 12:23 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Its got to the point these days where even the podcasts have to have music
or rights restricted items removed before they are made available. Cannot
help wondering if the industry is not shooting itself in the foot here.


Indeed. Eventually they may realise that a great many programmes are all the
better for not having music plastered all over them in the first place.

Rod.
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Dickie mint December 28th 08 12:59 PM

BBC iPlayer
 
Bill Wright wrote:
I haven't bothered actually downloading and storing programmes until
yesterday. I now see that BBC iPlayer says that it will delete a programme I
have recorded seven days after I watch it. How can I prevent this?

Bill


I use some freeware, which records picture and sound in realtime to an
AVI file:

Camstudio www.rendersoftware.com

All you do is to set a window.


Richard

Light of Aria[_2_] December 29th 08 12:19 PM

BBC iPlayer
 



A bit like Audiograbber which can rip streaming audio and convert it
directly into an Mp3 file.. it has to be done in real time admittedly, but
no really big deal if one wants to listen to a program at a time and place
of 'their' choosing.





Sadly, most IPlayer-casts also have BBC DOG ****.




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