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Bill Wright November 14th 08 04:28 AM

IAN: the dustbin men
 
Two weeks ago we were away, so we didn't put the recycling out. As a result,
the quantity this time was almost double the norm. As it happened I was in
the yard with the dogs when the dustbin man came. They semed to be banging
stuff about with unusual venom even for them, and to my astonishment I heard
one say, "This is just taking flipping advantage this is!"

Honestly! What are we supposed to do? These people really are the limit.

Bill



Sheila November 14th 08 07:19 AM

the dustbin men
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Two weeks ago we were away, so we didn't put the recycling out. As a
result, the quantity this time was almost double the norm. As it happened
I was in the yard with the dogs when the dustbin man came. They semed to
be banging stuff about with unusual venom even for them, and to my
astonishment I heard one say, "This is just taking flipping advantage this
is!"

Honestly! What are we supposed to do? These people really are the limit.

Bill


Well, "These people" are people who are doing an unpleasant job that no one
else wants to do. Their reward level is slightly above the minimum
wage......oh, and they do get ****ed off with the general public, just as
you do, when they are carrying out their vital, yet unrewarding work.

With regard to your recycling bins, they must have been really ****ed off at
having to carry 4 weeks worth of that arsewipe that goes by the name of "The
Daily Mail".

Sheila



\(!\) November 14th 08 09:20 AM

the dustbin men
 

"Sheila" wrote in message
om...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Two weeks ago we were away, so we didn't put the recycling out. As a
result, the quantity this time was almost double the norm. As it happened
I was in the yard with the dogs when the dustbin man came. They semed to
be banging stuff about with unusual venom even for them, and to my
astonishment I heard one say, "This is just taking flipping advantage
this is!"

Honestly! What are we supposed to do? These people really are the limit.

Bill


Well, "These people" are people who are doing an unpleasant job that no
one else wants to do. Their reward level is slightly above the minimum
wage......oh, and they do get ****ed off with the general public, just as
you do, when they are carrying out their vital, yet unrewarding work.

With regard to your recycling bins, they must have been really ****ed off
at having to carry 4 weeks worth of that arsewipe that goes by the name of
"The Daily Mail".

Sheila



yep it takes something to leave a bin that's lid is half
open..............or half closed.

when I was in business, one of my customers provided a drawing that had an
error on it. I remanufactured the part at no extra cost to him or his
employer..............that boded well for future work.

I did not say Tough ****ing ****.............which is basically what the bin
man is saying when he leaves that bin.




Ian Jackson[_2_] November 14th 08 10:00 AM

the dustbin men
 
In message , "(!)"
writes

"Sheila" wrote in message
. com...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Two weeks ago we were away, so we didn't put the recycling out. As a
result, the quantity this time was almost double the norm. As it happened
I was in the yard with the dogs when the dustbin man came. They semed to
be banging stuff about with unusual venom even for them, and to my
astonishment I heard one say, "This is just taking flipping advantage
this is!"

Honestly! What are we supposed to do? These people really are the limit.

Bill


Well, "These people" are people who are doing an unpleasant job that no
one else wants to do. Their reward level is slightly above the minimum
wage......oh, and they do get ****ed off with the general public, just as
you do, when they are carrying out their vital, yet unrewarding work.

With regard to your recycling bins, they must have been really ****ed off
at having to carry 4 weeks worth of that arsewipe that goes by the name of
"The Daily Mail".

Sheila



yep it takes something to leave a bin that's lid is half
open..............or half closed.

when I was in business, one of my customers provided a drawing that had an
error on it. I remanufactured the part at no extra cost to him or his
employer..............that boded well for future work.

I did not say Tough ****ing ****.............which is basically what the bin
man is saying when he leaves that bin.

See 37. A re-wrap may be necessary.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache... arbage+man%22
&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk
--
Ian

neverwas[_3_] November 14th 08 10:51 AM

the dustbin men
 

Well, "These people" are people who are doing an unpleasant job that
no one else wants to do. Their reward level is slightly above the
minimum wage.


Where do you live? In London they get a lot more than that - and a quick
search shows the same is true in every other place in the UK for which I
can find figures.

On the other hand, some will see their pay cut as part of the settlement
of equal pay for equal work claims. See for example
http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh?articleid=4621453 for a wonderful
example of over-riding market economics. (But quite possibly being a
classroom assistant in a class of infants is as demanding as empting
bins full of disposable nappies. I have no experience of either.)

--
Robin



Bill Wright November 14th 08 01:17 PM

the dustbin men
 

"Sheila" wrote in message
om...
Well, "These people" are people who are doing an unpleasant job that no
one else wants to do. Their reward level is slightly above the minimum
wage

Taking your two statements together, I think you have effectively
contrdicted yourself. If no-one else wanted to do the work the wage would
have to be high to attract labour. The law of supply and demand applies to
the sale of labour just as to anything else. My dad used to be the works
manager for Thorne Rural District Council and he always had a waiting list
for jobs on the bins.
Regarding your comment about the level of remuneration, the bin men are
generally on generous bonus schemes which mean that their effective hourly
rate is quite decent. Don't forget that these guys have no special skills or
aptitude and have only a basic education, so can only expect a fairly low
rate level of pay

.......oh, and they do get ****ed off with the general public, just as
you do, when they are carrying out their vital, yet unrewarding work.

I very rarely get ****ed off with the general public, since 99% of people in
my experience are decent and honest. I find their antics amusing sometimes,
but that's because of my love of humanity. I have the humility to realise
that I, too, am a member of the GBP, and thus cause raised eyebrows
occasionally amongst the professionals in each field.


With regard to your recycling bins, they must have been really ****ed off
at having to carry 4 weeks worth of that arsewipe that goes by the name of
"The Daily Mail".

I don't read the Daily Mail. I understand it verges on being racist. Is that
right? I read the Times, with tongue in cheek because of the ownership.

Bill



\(!\) November 14th 08 01:36 PM

the dustbin men
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Sheila" wrote in message
om...
Well, "These people" are people who are doing an unpleasant job that no
one else wants to do. Their reward level is slightly above the minimum
wage

Taking your two statements together, I think you have effectively
contrdicted yourself. If no-one else wanted to do the work the wage would
have to be high to attract labour. The law of supply and demand applies to
the sale of labour just as to anything else. My dad used to be the works
manager for Thorne Rural District Council and he always had a waiting list
for jobs on the bins.
Regarding your comment about the level of remuneration, the bin men are
generally on generous bonus schemes which mean that their effective hourly
rate is quite decent. Don't forget that these guys have no special skills
or aptitude and have only a basic education, so can only expect a fairly
low rate level of pay

......oh, and they do get ****ed off with the general public, just as
you do, when they are carrying out their vital, yet unrewarding work.

I very rarely get ****ed off with the general public, since 99% of people
in my experience are decent and honest. I find their antics amusing
sometimes, but that's because of my love of humanity. I have the humility
to realise that I, too, am a member of the GBP, and thus cause raised
eyebrows occasionally amongst the professionals in each field.


With regard to your recycling bins, they must have been really ****ed off
at having to carry 4 weeks worth of that arsewipe that goes by the name
of "The Daily Mail".

I don't read the Daily Mail. I understand it verges on being racist. Is
that right? I read the Times, with tongue in cheek because of the
ownership.

Bill




not to mention they can be bribed..........a close friends, when he wants
unwieldy objects removed, leaves a pack of 4 beers on the object at the gate
and hey presto it's gone.....no questions asked.




Adrian C November 14th 08 01:46 PM

the dustbin men
 
(!) wrote:
not to mention they can be bribed..........a close friends, when he wants
unwieldy objects removed, leaves a pack of 4 beers on the object at the gate
and hey presto it's gone.....no questions asked.


I wouldn't describe a pack of 4 beers as unwieldy objects...

--
Adrian C

\(!\) November 14th 08 01:59 PM

the dustbin men
 

"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
(!) wrote:
not to mention they can be bribed..........a close friends, when he wants
unwieldy objects removed, leaves a pack of 4 beers on the object at the
gate and hey presto it's gone.....no questions asked.


I wouldn't describe a pack of 4 beers as unwieldy objects...

--
Adrian C


no no they are ontop the object......read read read :-)

some of them garbage med are unwieldy objects mind...



Chas Gill November 14th 08 04:00 PM

the dustbin men
 

"Sheila" wrote in message
om...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Two weeks ago we were away, so we didn't put the recycling out. As a
result, the quantity this time was almost double the norm. As it happened
I was in the yard with the dogs when the dustbin man came. They semed to
be banging stuff about with unusual venom even for them, and to my
astonishment I heard one say, "This is just taking flipping advantage
this is!"

Honestly! What are we supposed to do? These people really are the limit.

Bill


Well, "These people" are people who are doing an unpleasant job that no
one else wants to do. Their reward level is slightly above the minimum
wage......oh, and they do get ****ed off with the general public, just as
you do, when they are carrying out their vital, yet unrewarding work.

With regard to your recycling bins, they must have been really ****ed off
at having to carry 4 weeks worth of that arsewipe that goes by the name of
"The Daily Mail".

Sheila

If Bill's boys are anything like mine, they hare around like there's no
tomorrow - largely because of the pressure they are under to meet what some
would say are unreasonable targets (since the refuse collection was
privatised and put out to contract). Most of them appear to be in serious
training for the wheelie bin Olympics (I believe that once they have done
their quota for the day the rest of the time is theirs). It might,
therefore, be understandable that they consider having to sort and grade a
double helping of recyclables to be taking the **** and robbing them of
their personal time. Mind you they got a bit of bonus time when Bill didn't
leave it out the time before, didn't they? Such short memories............

Chas

PS I would be very desperate indeed to have to do their job and whatever
they get paid is probably not enough. I have an undying admiration for
them, largely because they do it with such good heart and always with a
cheery "Wotcha!". I have never understood why those that do unpleasant jobs
that the rest of us would rather not do don't seem to deserve or get proper
compensation from a grateful public.



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