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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/7711531.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/7698370.stm Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise where the public information side of digital is concerned. SKY seem to have an inside track where their own stable of newspapers, The News Corporation, is concerned and, as such, anyone reliant on this traditional medium for their information would not really be too aware of cable options. And with both a suitably enabled digital box as well as a digital TV and suitable analogue recording equipment it should be possible to watch one show whilst recording one to disk and another to generic VCR tape cassette. If it has a SCART, which seems to have escaped mention. Similarly, how on earth will any generic analogue recording equipment work with a digital-native TV set? And if it does work by way of a SCART lead. I'm sure the BBC had up, and have since pulled, a slightly misleading story at 09:30 this morning. But I now can't find it-- though the information I did find seems adequate for the jigsaw fan, so who says traditional co-ordinative skills are on their way out! Still, I did like the bit about how people in Whitehaven didn't realise they were doing something wrong until all the cameras and reporters showed up. But the BBC is perhaps culpable for having a piecemeal approach with no cohesive thread, kind of a "well it's covered somewhere, I remember approving it a couple of months back" attitude. It's a big enough change and a competitive enough sector that simply providing complete and comprehensive information merely is informing the public. But again, I have the internet so I know what's up there; those who don't will not and are similarly likely to be unable to access BBCi information despite severe mental dysfunction is about the only way even a casual viewer could be unaware of this new teletext system. Given how much junk pap goes out through the Royal Mail and by way of the traditional print media is a well-prepared 2-colour gatefold "state-of-the-stations" missive every six months out with every paper - local, regional, national, paid-for or free - really not a suitable solution? Is it not somehow broadcasting? And more to the point isn't it how the old radio switchover in the late 1970s worked without a hitch? The fact that FM was the same, warm rosy mixdown at the engineers' decks as the previous VHF by a different name and clarification on how both the standard for measuring the scale on the dial and its carrier amplitudes were changing in the new wave of life for this pop-picker medium--some of the stations really were moving to a new home! Let's face it though, it's perhaps not any kind of an area of public information where we want the newspapers doing the overseers' - and BBC's - job in their own names. After all they along with the sensationalist rolling news channels reported only one side of the workplace qualifications route to academic brilliance in the new year and only now are getting round to covering the worthwhile aspects of on-the-job education--not something one would hope a promising 16 year old new starting staff member would need, and not something really an underperforming teenager could be expected to want or make the most of. But it remains, if I was just watching BBC BREAKFAST on analogue this morning, well, I would be confused. G DAEB COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON -- |
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On Nov 6, 11:02*am, FCS wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/7698370.stm Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise where the public information side of digital is concerned. SKY seem to have an inside track where their own stable of newspapers, The News Corporation, is concerned and, as such, anyone reliant on this traditional medium for their information would not really be too aware of cable options. And with both a suitably enabled digital box as well as a digital TV and suitable analogue recording equipment it should be possible to watch one show whilst recording one to disk and another to generic VCR tape cassette. If it has a SCART, which seems to have escaped mention. Similarly, how on earth will any generic analogue recording equipment work with a digital-native TV set? And if it does work by way of a SCART lead. I'm sure the BBC had up, and have since pulled, a slightly misleading story at 09:30 this morning. But I now can't find it-- though the information I did find seems adequate for the jigsaw fan, so who says traditional co-ordinative skills are on their way out! Still, I did like the bit about how people in Whitehaven didn't realise they were doing something wrong until all the cameras and reporters showed up. But the BBC is perhaps culpable for having a piecemeal approach with no cohesive thread, kind of a "well it's covered somewhere, I remember approving it a couple of months back" attitude. It's a big enough change and a competitive enough sector that simply providing complete and comprehensive information merely is informing the public. But again, I have the internet so I know what's up there; those who don't will not and are similarly likely to be unable to access BBCi information despite severe mental dysfunction is about the only way even a casual viewer could be unaware of this new teletext system. Given how much junk pap goes out through the Royal Mail and by way of the traditional print media is a well-prepared 2-colour gatefold "state-of-the-stations" missive every six months out with every paper - local, regional, national, paid-for or free - really not a suitable solution? Is it not somehow broadcasting? And more to the point isn't it how the old radio switchover in the late 1970s worked without a hitch? The fact that FM was the same, warm rosy mixdown at the engineers' decks as the previous VHF by a different name and clarification on how both the standard for measuring the scale on the dial and its carrier amplitudes were changing in the new wave of life for this pop-picker medium--some of the stations really were moving to a new home! Let's face it though, it's perhaps not any kind of an area of public information where we want the newspapers doing the overseers' - and BBC's - job in their own names. After all they along with the sensationalist rolling news channels reported only one side of the workplace qualifications route to academic brilliance in the new year and only now are getting round to covering the worthwhile aspects of on-the-job education--not something one would hope a promising 16 year old new starting staff member would need, and not something really an underperforming teenager could be expected to want or make the most of. But it remains, if I was just watching BBC BREAKFAST on analogue this morning, well, I would be confused. G DAEB COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON -- I just spent £200 on a television for the bedroom, the Samsung LE19R88, as it was advertised by Dixons as 'all you'll ever need'. But it isn't. It is advertised with the 'digital tick', so I wrongly assumed that all the functions of this TV will work when analogue broadcasts are switched off. This is simply not the case. One of the reasons I chose this model is the alarm timer, which allows me to wake up to the television news. However, the alarm can only be set to come on an analogue channel, rendering it totally unuseable after the digital switchover! This 'digital tick' clearly means nothing more than 'can receive digital broadcasts', and is no guard, let alone a guarantee, against built-in obsolescence! |
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FCS Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST) Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise where the public information side of digital is concerned. Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they cant watch them without buying another freeview box . -- www.cannabisaware.co.uk |
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One of the reasons I chose this model is the alarm timer, which allows me to wake up to the television news. However, the alarm can only be set to come on an analogue channel, rendering it totally unuseable after the digital switchover! I am already depressed. The idea of waking up to TV news, especially the BBC's breakfast news could not inspire me less. |
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On Nov 6, 11:22*am, Sir Krustov wrote:
uk.media.tv.misc FCS Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST) Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise where the public information side of digital is concerned. Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they cant watch them without buying another freeview box . --www.cannabisaware.co.uk Indeed. All those people that bought TVs with "HD READY" plastered all over the screen in the shop might have a good case with the OFT. |
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Sir Krustov wrote: uk.media.tv.misc FCS Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST) Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise where the public information side of digital is concerned. Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they cant watch them without buying another freeview box . You're assuming the HD channels will show different progs from the SD ones? -- *The older you get, the better you realize you were. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Sir Krustov wrote: uk.media.tv.misc FCS Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST) Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise where the public information side of digital is concerned. Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they cant watch them without buying another freeview box . You're assuming the HD channels will show different progs from the SD ones? I didn't know Mike had a brother! |
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On Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 03:02:34h -0800, FCS wrote:
SKY seem to have an inside track where their own stable of newspapers, The News Corporation, is concerned and, as such, anyone reliant on this traditional medium for their information would not really be too aware of cable options. As far as the mouthpiece of Murdoch journals are concerned, everybody should be signing up to B$kyB. I am sure you must have noticed how these newspapers frequently publish articles which are supposedly news but are nothing more than vehicles for promoting the Murdoch empire. Why on earth do you think The Times did a full page color article on the release of The Simpsons Movie, for example? COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON Is this supposed to indicate that one is not supposed to quote your text? |
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On Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 13:57:06h +0000,
Dave Plowman (News) asked: You're assuming the HD channels will show different progs from the SD ones? Are you assuming that the cleared PSB-3 multiplex will only be carrying HD stations? ;+) The point is that the new multiplex will only be receivable with a DVB-t2 tuner, regardless of whether the stations are HD or not. |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:29:04 -0000, "Light of Aria"
wrote: One of the reasons I chose this model is the alarm timer, which allows me to wake up to the television news. However, the alarm can only be set to come on an analogue channel, rendering it totally unuseable after the digital switchover! I am already depressed. The idea of waking up to TV news, especially the BBC's breakfast news could not inspire me less. So THAT'S why I feel so **** when I wake up in the morning. Marky P. |
Digital TV - information and interest
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST), FCS
wrote: And more to the point isn't it how the old radio switchover in the late 1970s worked without a hitch? The fact that FM was the same, warm rosy mixdown at the engineers' decks as the previous VHF by a different name and clarification on how both the standard for measuring the scale on the dial and its carrier amplitudes were changing in the new wave of life for this pop-picker medium--some of the stations really were moving to a new home! WTF are you on about? The radio switchover was on MW and LW, bugger all changed on Band 2 VHF until public sector (usually AM) users were moved off the band in the mid to late 1980's. -- |
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J G Miller wrote: On Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 13:57:06h +0000, Dave Plowman (News) asked: You're assuming the HD channels will show different progs from the SD ones? Are you assuming that the cleared PSB-3 multiplex will only be carrying HD stations? ;+) Do you really think it will carry new free channels? The point is that the new multiplex will only be receivable with a DVB-t2 tuner, regardless of whether the stations are HD or not. So you'll have to buy a new tuner. Not any different from when DTTV started all those years ago. -- *Why is the third hand on the watch called a second hand? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Sir Krustov Proclaimed from the tallest tower: www.cannabisaware.co.uk So how do they get away with that then?? -- Regards, Chris. (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me) |
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On Nov 6, 11:54*am, Ed wrote:
On Nov 6, 11:22*am, Sir Krustov wrote: uk.media.tv.misc FCS Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST) Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise where the public information side of digital is concerned. Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they cant watch them without buying another freeview box . --www.cannabisaware.co.uk Indeed. All those people that bought TVs with "HD READY" plastered all over the screen in the shop might have a good case with the OFT. I doubt it. The logo is clearly defined by EICTA:- http://www.eicta.org/index.php?id=731 Matt |
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