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Bill Wright October 22nd 08 08:44 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
During the opening credits there's a Hirschmann 65cm dish briefly visible.

Bill



J G Miller[_4_] October 22nd 08 08:58 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
On Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 at 19:44:55h +0100, Bill Wright reported:
During the opening credits there's a Hirschmann 65cm dish briefly
visible.


Is it pointing to 28,5 degrees East, or one of them `foreign' satellites?

Graham.[_2_] October 23rd 08 01:26 AM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
During the opening credits there's a Hirschmann 65cm dish briefly visible.

Bill



Pity it's not a mini-dish, then, we would know where it was pointing.
Any C/D horizontals in the same shot? We can assume they are on WH
Can you see where I am going with this?
Having two absolute bearings, and an OS map, we would know for
sure where Weatherfield actually was. What a coups it would be if it
wasn't at the back of the Quay Street studios.
--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Bill Wright October 23rd 08 03:14 AM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
During the opening credits there's a Hirschmann 65cm dish briefly
visible.

Bill



Pity it's not a mini-dish, then, we would know where it was pointing.
Any C/D horizontals in the same shot? We can assume they are on WH
Can you see where I am going with this?
Having two absolute bearings, and an OS map, we would know for
sure where Weatherfield actually was. What a coups it would be if it
wasn't at the back of the Quay Street studios.


Ahh well those aerials were put up just to look good. Some local rigger used
a load of old gear to make them look authentic. They don't point at WH.

It isn't very authentic having a Hirschmann dish though. These cost about
£25 more than the cheap dishes customarily used for 13E by the various types
of immigrant.

Bill



Mark Carver October 23rd 08 08:37 AM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
Graham. wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
During the opening credits there's a Hirschmann 65cm dish briefly visible.

Bill



Pity it's not a mini-dish,


Given Granada's history over the last twenty years, I'm surprised it isn't a
squarial ?

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Bill Wright October 23rd 08 11:14 AM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Given Granada's history over the last twenty years, I'm surprised it isn't
a squarial ?


Yes, it would have added authenticity to have had a few dilapidated BSB
dishes/flat panels on the walls of the terraced houses. See

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/aerialp...odern/049.html

Bill



Dave Plowman (News) October 23rd 08 12:00 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Ahh well those aerials were put up just to look good. Some local rigger
used a load of old gear to make them look authentic. They don't point
at WH.


Much the same as their bricklayer then. The bond is wrong for houses of
that age.

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John Sager October 23rd 08 12:31 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
Bill Wright wrote:


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Given Granada's history over the last twenty years, I'm surprised it
isn't a squarial ?


Yes, it would have added authenticity to have had a few dilapidated BSB
dishes/flat panels on the walls of the terraced houses. See

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/aerialp...odern/049.html

Bill


Did Ionica (bankrupt wireless phone provider) ever make it to Granadaland?
We have a few octagonal antennas from that service still around here in
Ipswich.

J


Bill Wright October 23rd 08 02:52 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"John Sager" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
Did Ionica (bankrupt wireless phone provider) ever make it to Granadaland?
We have a few octagonal antennas from that service still around here in
Ipswich.


Lots round here. Very well made. Stainless steel and anodised aluminium.

Bill



J G Miller[_4_] October 23rd 08 04:04 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:14:43 +0100, Bill Wright opined:

It isn't very authentic having a Hirschmann dish though. These cost
about £25 more than the cheap dishes customarily used for 13E by the
various types of immigrant.


Do you consider it unpatriotic to watch programming transmitted
from Hot Bird 6/7A/8 at 13.0°E?

Is not much of the population of Northern England descended
from immigrants from Danmark, so would not these people
be pointing their dishes at Thor 3/5 & Intelsat 10-02 at 0.8°W?


Colin Stamp October 23rd 08 06:37 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:52:44 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


"John Sager" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
Did Ionica (bankrupt wireless phone provider) ever make it to Granadaland?
We have a few octagonal antennas from that service still around here in
Ipswich.


Lots round here. Very well made. Stainless steel and anodised aluminium.


My old Ionica brackets and mast make a very nice job of holding up my
TV aerial.

I took apart the hexagonal bit. It must have cost a fortune. I think
it was a phased array, with loads of electronics as well. The whole
system seemed to be in the hexagonal bit, with just the battery-backed
power-supply inside the house.

Cheers,

Colin.

Roderick Stewart[_2_] October 23rd 08 08:01 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
In article , Paul Matthews wrote:
Pity it's not a mini-dish, then, we would know where it was pointing.
Any C/D horizontals in the same shot? We can assume they are on WH
Can you see where I am going with this?
Having two absolute bearings, and an OS map, we would know for
sure where Weatherfield actually was. What a coups it would be if it
wasn't at the back of the Quay Street studios.



That does rather assume that on a set they have taken the time to align the TV
aerials correctly.


They won't have done. Prop dishes don't have to be practical because they'll
never be used. They're just wall ornaments. They only have to look nice on
camera to suit the shots the director wants in the episode where the dish is
installed. Then they're usually forgotten. Brookside Close for example is all
trees to the south, so no satellite dish would ever work there, and the prop
satellite dishes point north.

Rod.
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J G Miller[_4_] October 23rd 08 08:08 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
On Thursday, October 23rd, 2008 at 19:01:24h +0100,
Roderick Stewart explained:

Brookside Close for example is all trees to the south, so no
satellite dish would ever work there, and the prop satellite
dishes point north.


The new residents must have been pretty disgruntled that they
could not get anything on satellite.

http://news.bbc.co.UK/1/hi/england/merseyside/7074483.stm

Did they exhume the body from under the patio before the sale
was completed?

- October 23rd 08 08:09 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
message .myzen.co.uk...
In article , Paul Matthews
wrote:
Pity it's not a mini-dish, then, we would know where it was pointing.
Any C/D horizontals in the same shot? We can assume they are on WH
Can you see where I am going with this?
Having two absolute bearings, and an OS map, we would know for
sure where Weatherfield actually was. What a coups it would be if it
wasn't at the back of the Quay Street studios.



That does rather assume that on a set they have taken the time to align
the TV
aerials correctly.


They won't have done. Prop dishes don't have to be practical because
they'll
never be used. They're just wall ornaments. They only have to look nice on
camera to suit the shots the director wants in the episode where the dish
is
installed. Then they're usually forgotten. Brookside Close for example is
all
trees to the south, so no satellite dish would ever work there, and the
prop
satellite dishes point north.

Rod.
--
Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/


I did a job on a house whos roof overlooked the Eastenders set in
Borehamwood. If my phone rang you would have heard it on the set. Saw a few
of them milling around. The aerials I saw were just props. Contract props
too!!



Graham.[_2_] October 23rd 08 08:15 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Ahh well those aerials were put up just to look good. Some local rigger
used a load of old gear to make them look authentic. They don't point
at WH.


Much the same as their bricklayer then. The bond is wrong for houses of
that age.

I am not knowledgeable enough to say, but when they built the current
set I felt the mortar was too dark and modern looking, if it was
authentic it would be lighter, more "limey" wouldn't it?


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Graham.[_2_] October 23rd 08 08:34 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 


"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
message .myzen.co.uk...
In article , Paul Matthews
wrote:
Pity it's not a mini-dish, then, we would know where it was pointing.
Any C/D horizontals in the same shot? We can assume they are on WH
Can you see where I am going with this?
Having two absolute bearings, and an OS map, we would know for
sure where Weatherfield actually was. What a coups it would be if it
wasn't at the back of the Quay Street studios.



That does rather assume that on a set they have taken the time to align
the TV
aerials correctly.


They won't have done. Prop dishes don't have to be practical because
they'll
never be used. They're just wall ornaments. They only have to look nice on
camera to suit the shots the director wants in the episode where the dish
is
installed. Then they're usually forgotten. Brookside Close for example is
all
trees to the south, so no satellite dish would ever work there, and the
prop
satellite dishes point north.


Yes all very plausible and logical Rod, but I posed the question within
the make-believe world of the TV dramas.
I mean, if you could prove by simple triangulation that Weatherfield was in
the Outer Hebrides, Eastenders was in the mid Pacific Ocean, and Brookside
Close
was just North of Cairo...

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Bill Wright October 23rd 08 08:52 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:14:43 +0100, Bill Wright opined:

It isn't very authentic having a Hirschmann dish though. These cost
about £25 more than the cheap dishes customarily used for 13E by the
various types of immigrant.


Do you consider it unpatriotic to watch programming transmitted
from Hot Bird 6/7A/8 at 13.0°E?

Is not much of the population of Northern England descended
from immigrants from Danmark, so would not these people
be pointing their dishes at Thor 3/5 & Intelsat 10-02 at 0.8°W?


I'm not with you. What I said was that the immigrants who need 65 and 85cm
dishes so they can get telly in their own language normally use cheap
dishes. Which they do, almost always, presumably because they don't have
much spare money. It's pretty certain that if you see a 65cm or bigger dish
on a terraced house it will be in use for that purpose. What's this got to
do with being patriotic, or the Danes?

Bill



Graham.[_2_] October 23rd 08 09:37 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:14:43 +0100, Bill Wright opined:

It isn't very authentic having a Hirschmann dish though. These cost
about £25 more than the cheap dishes customarily used for 13E by the
various types of immigrant.


Do you consider it unpatriotic to watch programming transmitted
from Hot Bird 6/7A/8 at 13.0°E?

Is not much of the population of Northern England descended
from immigrants from Danmark, so would not these people
be pointing their dishes at Thor 3/5 & Intelsat 10-02 at 0.8°W?


I'm not with you. What I said was that the immigrants who need 65 and 85cm
dishes so they can get telly in their own language normally use cheap
dishes. Which they do, almost always, presumably because they don't have
much spare money. It's pretty certain that if you see a 65cm or bigger
dish on a terraced house it will be in use for that purpose. What's this
got to do with being patriotic, or the Danes?

Bill


I think if you re-read Mr Miller's post you will see
he was alluding to a wave of immigration slightly
earlier to what you might be thinking, and making
a fanciful suggestion that these people might still
be Vikings at heart.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



J G Miller[_4_] October 23rd 08 10:01 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:37:58 +0100, Graham. wrote:

I think if you re-read Mr Miller's post you will see he was
alluding to a wave of immigration slightly earlier to what you might
be thinking, and making a fanciful suggestion that these people
might still be Vikings at heart.


That's it!

And on the latter point, I rest my case with the name of that well known
radio station --

http://www.vikingfm.co.UK/Default.asp?i=yes

and the name of the speedway team

http://www.hullvikings.COM/


Bill Wright October 23rd 08 11:41 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...

I think if you re-read Mr Miller's post you will see
he was alluding to a wave of immigration slightly
earlier to what you might be thinking, and making
a fanciful suggestion that these people might still
be Vikings at heart.


I re-read it several times, and still couldn't see what he was on about.

Bill



Bill Wright October 23rd 08 11:43 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:37:58 +0100, Graham. wrote:

I think if you re-read Mr Miller's post you will see he was
alluding to a wave of immigration slightly earlier to what you might
be thinking, and making a fanciful suggestion that these people
might still be Vikings at heart.


That's it!

And on the latter point, I rest my case with the name of that well known
radio station --

http://www.vikingfm.co.UK/Default.asp?i=yes

and the name of the speedway team

http://www.hullvikings.COM/

Well I don't know about any of this. The only thing I can say is that
raping, looting, and pillaging is still popular in most areas of the
Danelaw.

Bill



Roderick Stewart[_2_] October 24th 08 12:14 AM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
In article , J G Miller wrote:
Brookside Close for example is all trees to the south, so no
satellite dish would ever work there, and the prop satellite
dishes point north.


The new residents must have been pretty disgruntled that they
could not get anything on satellite.

http://news.bbc.co.UK/1/hi/england/merseyside/7074483.stm

Did they exhume the body from under the patio before the sale
was completed?


The houses have been available for a while, but to the best of my
knowledge, nobody's actually bought any of them yet. If anybody does,
they're going to find terrestrial TV reception very patchy and
satellite nonexistent, so maybe digging their gardens will be all they
can do to fill the time. Goodness knows what they'll find.....

Rod.
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/


TGH October 24th 08 09:59 AM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Given Granada's history over the last twenty years, I'm surprised it
isn't a squarial ?


Yes, it would have added authenticity to have had a few dilapidated BSB
dishes/flat panels on the walls of the terraced houses. See

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/aerialp...odern/049.html

Thanks for the link to your website bill, I have just lost over 2 hours
going through your articles and scans, very interesting stuff.

I love the 1958 BBC booklet, High definition TV broadcasts in 1936, well
ahead of its time lol, 405 lines 25 "pictures per second" interlaced
scanning giving 50 "fields per second". how terminoligy has changed..



--
The Glory Hornet


Roderick Stewart[_2_] October 24th 08 12:09 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 
In article , Tgh wrote:
I love the 1958 BBC booklet, High definition TV broadcasts in 1936, well
ahead of its time lol, 405 lines 25 "pictures per second" interlaced
scanning giving 50 "fields per second". how terminoligy has changed..


I can remember reading somewhere (though unfortunately I can't remember
where), that the BBC made a point of avoiding the term "frames" because in
the earliest days of television it meant different things on different
sides of the Atlantic. In America they referred to a frame consisting of
two fields, and we referred to a picture consisting of two frames. To avoid
confusion, the BBC started calling them Pictures and fields, but in general
usage the American terminology seems to have won.

Rod.
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/


Bill Wright October 24th 08 12:28 PM

Hirschmann dish on Coronation St
 

"TGH" wrote in message
...
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/aerialp...odern/049.html

Thanks for the link to your website bill, I have just lost over 2 hours
going through your articles and scans, very interesting stuff.


Glad you enjoyed it.

Bill




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