How international are Freeview boxes?
 

EPGs aside , would a UK freeview box (specificallly Humax) work in
France at all?

B2003

How international are Freeview boxes?
 

"Boltar" wrote in message
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EPGs aside , would a UK freeview box (specificallly Humax) work in
France at all?

B2003

I would say Yes, It depends on how well the box is designed according to the
DVB-T Specifications.

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:15:07 +0000, mr deo wrote:
I would say Yes, It depends on how well the box is designed according to
the DVB-T Specifications.
ON-digital boxes were generally well made in accordance with the
DVB-t specifications, but as most of them only support 2k FFT decoding,
they will not decode anything in any other country, since to the best
of my knowledge, all other DVB-t countries use the superior 8k FFT
parameter.

Furthermore, DVB-t in France is broadcast both in MPEG-2 and MPEG-4
encoding, so a box sold exclusivel for any market (UKofGB&NI, Germany,
Vlaanderen etc) where MPEG-4 is not used, will obviously not decode
the MPEG-4 multiplexes.

And in addition, in the DVB-t world, the UKofGB&NI uses MHEG, whereas
everybody else uses MHP for interactive services.

So in conclusion, a Humax (FOX T presumably) will work in France,
but only decode the MPEG-2 services.

Only the subscription services are in fact in MPEG-4, and since the Humax
Fox T does not have a CI, its lack of MPEG-4 decoding is a moot point.

Furthermore, since France currently only broadcasts DVB-t on UHF,
any lack of VHF tuner (I think the Humax FOX T is UHF only) is also
a moot point.

The more important question is, are you going to an area served by
TNT, since it a) it is not yet 100% rolled out and b) geographic coverage
will only ever be about 60-70% of the country.

Check availability at http://www.tvnt.NET/V2/pages/335/index.php

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Boltar wrote:
: EPGs aside , would a UK freeview box (specificallly Humax) work in
: France at all?
Does France transmit any digital channels on VHF??? "UHF only" used to
be a UK&Ireland only thing. Then, as others have said, there is the
MPEG4/DVBT2 issue!

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:49:12 +0000, Brian McIlwrath wrote:
Does France transmit any digital channels on VHF???
Not at the current time.

VHF Bande I et III are only used for CANAL+ analog.

DAB transmissions, which were curtailed in 2007, were only broadcast
in the UHF L band.

For a listing of multiplex and CANAL+ channel assignments,
see

http://www.tvnt.NET/multiplex_frequences.htm

Deutschland on the other hand, does transmit DAB and DVB-t
on VHF Band III.

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On Sep 25, 9:39 pm, J G Miller wrote:
Furthermore, DVB-t in France is broadcast both in MPEG-2 and MPEG-4
encoding, so a box sold exclusivel for any market (UKofGB&NI, Germany,
Vlaanderen etc) where MPEG-4 is not used, will obviously not decode
the MPEG-4 multiplexes.

And in addition, in the DVB-t world, the UKofGB&NI uses MHEG, whereas
everybody else uses MHP for interactive services.

And there was me thinking that at least digital TV could have been
standardised in europe even if analog TV and digital radio were a lost
cause. But no, obviously that would just be too damn simple for all
the vested interests. Why does this always happen? You wouldn't expect
a CD to be in a different format if you bought it in france so what
the hell is it with broadcast media that they just can't agree on
anything?

B2003

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In article
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Boltar wrote:
And there was me thinking that at least digital TV could have been
standardised in europe even if analog TV and digital radio were a lost
cause. But no, obviously that would just be too damn simple for all
the vested interests. Why does this always happen? You wouldn't expect
a CD to be in a different format if you bought it in france so what
the hell is it with broadcast media that they just can't agree on
anything?

Playing a CD in your house doesn't interfere with a neighbours one.

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I suspect the hardware is capable of a whole lot more than is used in a
given market. Its just the firmware and local software that is altered. If
this were not the case they would not have such a low price I suspect. It
may well be that at some point a multi standard receiver is going to be
made, but at the moement with people still messing about in more than one
format, I suspect the manufacturers are not rushing to produce an affordable
beast like this

My feeling, for logical reasons is that satellite distribution is surely the
most useful in countries where its hard to get coverage, so the terrestrial
will always be the poor mans bolt on get it if its there option anyhow.

As to why its always different, well, that is nationalism for you. Its a
real big surprise that the French have not gone to a completely different
system altogether, as is their historic track record.

Brian

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"Boltar" wrote in message
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On Sep 25, 9:39 pm, J G Miller wrote:
Furthermore, DVB-t in France is broadcast both in MPEG-2 and MPEG-4
encoding, so a box sold exclusivel for any market (UKofGB&NI, Germany,
Vlaanderen etc) where MPEG-4 is not used, will obviously not decode
the MPEG-4 multiplexes.

And in addition, in the DVB-t world, the UKofGB&NI uses MHEG, whereas
everybody else uses MHP for interactive services.

And there was me thinking that at least digital TV could have been
standardised in europe even if analog TV and digital radio were a lost
cause. But no, obviously that would just be too damn simple for all
the vested interests. Why does this always happen? You wouldn't expect
a CD to be in a different format if you bought it in france so what
the hell is it with broadcast media that they just can't agree on
anything?

B2003

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On Sep 26, 9:27 am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
Playing a CD in your house doesn't interfere with a neighbours one.

Whats that got to do with anything? Have you heard of analogue radio
which has precisely 2 standards AM & FM and you can buy an analogue
radio which works anywhere in the world?

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
Whats that got to do with anything? Have you heard of analogue radio
which has precisely 2 standards AM & FM and you can buy an analogue
radio which works anywhere in the world?

Up to a point ... Others here can quote chapter and verse better then
me, but doesn't pre-emphasis on FM differ between continents?
Certainly LW is used for AM in some parts of the world but not
others - so a radio bought with no LW band in the U.S., say, will be
incomplete as a receiver in Europe. There may be other frequency
allocation differences as well, and possibly channel-spacing issues.

André Coutanche