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I live in a property that has a cavity wall.
If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane |
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane Yes, a wire coat hanger works fine. Cut a piece of hanger wire about 50cm long. Fashion one end into a grippable handle and the other into a small loop about 5mm dia. Drill right through the cavity wall with a long masonry bit. Push the newly made tool through the wall until the loop emerges from the other side. Firmly attach the coax to the loop, gently pull the cable through from the handle end. Works beautifully, I have done it dozens of times. |
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writes In , Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Something like this: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/89981/...s-Tools/Cable- Access/Cable-Rod-Tool-Box-Kit They fit together like a chimney sweep's pole. Can be stiff and bendy as well. HTH Last year, we had the house professionally wired, and they made great use of those rods. I was absolutely amazed how they were able to get cables from A to B, using routes which I would never have thought possible. However, I suspect that there is a bit of a knack to it. -- Ian |
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"Malcolm H" wrote in message ... "Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane Yes, a wire coat hanger works fine. Cut a piece of hanger wire about 50cm long. Fashion one end into a grippable handle and the other into a small loop about 5mm dia. Drill right through the cavity wall with a long masonry bit. Push the newly made tool through the wall until the loop emerges from the other side. Firmly attach the coax to the loop, gently pull the cable through from the handle end. Works beautifully, I have done it dozens of times. Yep - me too. Didn't bother with the loop bit, though, 'cos when I did it made it harder to get in (and out again). It's eminently possible to fix the coax to the end of the wire with a bit of leccie tape (axially, not overlapped) and gently pull it through. Keeps the hole size down to a minimum and the conical increase in diameter easily passes most snags in the masonry. Beware cavity wall insulation in this respect. Rockwool fibre has a wonderful knack of snagging just about everything that tries to pass through it. Loops in the ends of bits of wire are guaranteed to find it. Chas |
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Malcolm H wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane Yes, a wire coat hanger works fine. Cut a piece of hanger wire about 50cm long. Fashion one end into a grippable handle and the other into a small loop about 5mm dia. Drill right through the cavity wall with a long masonry bit. Push the newly made tool through the wall until the loop emerges from the other side. Firmly attach the coax to the loop, gently pull the cable through from the handle end. Works beautifully, I have done it dozens of times. That is also the method I've used in the past. For a standard wall it works fine. |
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. I wonder whether it would be worthwhile to fit a piece of tubing instead of the cable, to make a re-usable conduit (which could be sealed at both ends once the cable is fitted). I am thinking of doing that shortly when we are having some new windows fitted, getting the fitters to put a tube through or aside the frame as our aerial and cable are due for replacement. Paul |
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I second most of the other suggestions.
When I drilled through for my satellite feed, I used a 10x400mm masonry bit to drill the hole. Bill says you should start the hole from the outside in a mortar joint, and it is often suggested that the hole should slope slightly upwards as it goes inwards, so that water will tend to run out of rather than into it. It should also be sealed once the cable is fitted. Yes, a straightened coat hanger can be good but it may be worth a little time ensuring that it is absolutely straight, otherwise it tends to snag on things. The bits where the ends of the wire were twisted together to form the hanger can be particularly irritating! I once used a vice and rolled the wire about on a concrete floor methodically straightening every kink, hammering them straight if necessary. It was the best pull-rod I ever had. I kept it for years. Finally I lent it to a workman who nicked it! The b*stard! Unsurprisingly, as the OP didn't ask it, no-one here has mentioned the vertical problem. My 80s house has plasterboarding on mostly vertical slats, so cables can be dropped down vertically from the attic. The easiest thing is if there is an existing cable, and it's *loose*! I suspect when cheapo houses like mine were built, the cabling is either temporarily fixed in place with dabs of mortar or were the victims of sloppy brickies or plasterers. Whatever the explanation, when I tried to use the existing aerial lead to pull through the CT100 double-insulated replacement, it offered resistance, I tried to persuade it by wriggling it about, twisting it a bit, etc. Finally I had to just try pulling harder and it broke. So it was Plan B. Plan B is an old trick of mine, an old steel 4m tape measure blade. Once the right-angled stub was removed from the end, it was perfect. Though, of course, without the stub, I needed to be careful about letting go of the end and having the rule disappear up its own fundament. Finally, I removed it from the casing for good! A rule has lateral strength in one direction but weakness in the other - I mean it tends to bend easily in the flat direction but not the other, but In the confines of the cavity, it can even be persuaded to remain upright when being pushed through from below, though it usually takes a few goes. Of course, it's usually easier to drop through from above. Having lateral strength in the one direction, it can even be angled to a certain extent. 4m is enough to get from floor to floor. If I need to go the full height of the house, I try and find an existing socket on the top floor as a mid -point. On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:56:24 +0100, Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane |
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Paul wrote: "Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. I wonder whether it would be worthwhile to fit a piece of tubing instead of the cable, to make a re-usable conduit (which could be sealed at both ends once the cable is fitted). I am thinking of doing that shortly when we are having some new windows fitted, getting the fitters to put a tube through or aside the frame as our aerial and cable are due for replacement. If you are going to do this, make sure the tubing slopes so that the outside is lower than the inside. -- From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , Paul wrote: "Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. I wonder whether it would be worthwhile to fit a piece of tubing instead of the cable, to make a re-usable conduit (which could be sealed at both ends once the cable is fitted). I am thinking of doing that shortly when we are having some new windows fitted, getting the fitters to put a tube through or aside the frame as our aerial and cable are due for replacement. If you are going to do this, make sure the tubing slopes so that the outside is lower than the inside. Good point - I'll tell the fitters. Maybe 8mm copper tube will do the trick. Paul |
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On 16 Sep, 11:13, "Paul" wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. I wonder whether it would be worthwhile to fit a piece of tubing instead of the cable, to make a re-usable conduit (which could be sealed at both ends once the cable is fitted). I am thinking of doing that shortly when we are having some new windows fitted, getting the fitters to put a tube through or aside the frame as our aerial and cable are due for replacement. Paul I had this done when we had an extension built. I asked the builder to fit a piece of 2inch PVC waste pipe into the wall. This took all my amateur radio cables. Fred |
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Java Jive wrote:
I second most of the other suggestions. When I drilled through for my satellite feed, I used a 10x400mm masonry bit to drill the hole. Bill says you should start the hole from the outside in a mortar joint, and it is often suggested that the hole should slope slightly upwards as it goes inwards, so that water will tend to run out of rather than into it. It should also be sealed once the cable is fitted. Yes, a straightened coat hanger can be good but it may be worth a little time ensuring that it is absolutely straight, otherwise it tends to snag on things. The bits where the ends of the wire were twisted together to form the hanger can be particularly irritating! I once used a vice and rolled the wire about on a concrete floor methodically straightening every kink, hammering them straight if necessary. It was the best pull-rod I ever had. I kept it for years. Finally I lent it to a workman who nicked it! The b*stard! Unsurprisingly, as the OP didn't ask it, no-one here has mentioned the vertical problem. My 80s house has plasterboarding on mostly vertical slats, so cables can be dropped down vertically from the attic. The easiest thing is if there is an existing cable, and it's *loose*! I suspect when cheapo houses like mine were built, the cabling is either temporarily fixed in place with dabs of mortar or were the victims of sloppy brickies or plasterers. Whatever the explanation, when I tried to use the existing aerial lead to pull through the CT100 double-insulated replacement, it offered resistance, I tried to persuade it by wriggling it about, twisting it a bit, etc. Finally I had to just try pulling harder and it broke. So it was Plan B. Plan B is an old trick of mine, an old steel 4m tape measure blade. Once the right-angled stub was removed from the end, it was perfect. Though, of course, without the stub, I needed to be careful about letting go of the end and having the rule disappear up its own fundament. Finally, I removed it from the casing for good! A rule has lateral strength in one direction but weakness in the other - I mean it tends to bend easily in the flat direction but not the other, but In the confines of the cavity, it can even be persuaded to remain upright when being pushed through from below, though it usually takes a few goes. Of course, it's usually easier to drop through from above. Having lateral strength in the one direction, it can even be angled to a certain extent. 4m is enough to get from floor to floor. If I need to go the full height of the house, I try and find an existing socket on the top floor as a mid -point. On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:56:24 +0100, Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FXCRSD.html I use these and can fish 2 shotgun cables from a 16mm hole drilled diagonally upwards into the cavity. If the cavity wall is open at the top, they push right into the roofspace even on 2 story buildings. Glenn... -- Glenn Millar - TV Aerials www.glennmillar.plus.com http://tinyurl.com/glennmillar-tvaerials |
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Price (ex vat) FX CRSD Super Deluxe Cable Rod Set 58.50
Blimey, at that price I'd expect at least that they'd find the G-spot! On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:15:42 +0100, Glenn Millar wrote: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FXCRSD.html I use these and can fish 2 shotgun cables from a 16mm hole drilled diagonally upwards into the cavity. If the cavity wall is open at the top, they push right into the roofspace even on 2 story buildings. Glenn... |
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I live in a property that has a cavity wall.
If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FXCRSD.html I use these and can fish 2 shotgun cables from a 16mm hole drilled diagonally upwards into the cavity. If the cavity wall is open at the top, they push right into the roofspace even on 2 story buildings. Glenn... Even past injected cavity wall insulation;!?.... -- Tony Sayer |
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Geoff Lane wrote:
I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane Thanks folks, loads of useful suggestions. Geoff Lane |
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. I have several ways of dealing with this, depending on the hole in question. Almost always it is easy to just push the cable through. Cut the end diagonally and be prepared to turn the cable and try again. If an obstruction is met do not push hard. Retract, turn, and try again, gently. This is a skill, but it can be acquired. A single strand of lashing wire pulled tight across a curved surface will become fairly rigid and straight, and can often fiddle its way through a hole that has loose debris in it. I have some lengths of 3mm dia high tensile wire (actually some offcuts from a suspension bridge cable, courtesy of British Ropes). With difficulty I have made eyes in these and they will push through most things and bring the cable along as well. I also have some old radio-telephone aerials which I use in much the same way. Blakes make tubes for the purpose. It is possible to draw a thin wire back through the hole by attaching it to the business end of an HDS masonry drill. Sounds impossible but the cutting edge is a bit wider than the flume behind it. Surprisingly, with the aid of a torch it is sometimes possible to see into the hole alongside the cable, and fiddle the cable past the obstruction In this case drill a 9 or 10mm hole for a 6mm cable. Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... "Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. I have several ways of dealing with this, depending on the hole in question. Almost always it is easy to just push the cable through. Cut the end diagonally and be prepared to turn the cable and try again. If an obstruction is met do not push hard. Retract, turn, and try again, gently. This is a skill, but it can be acquired. A single strand of lashing wire pulled tight across a curved surface will become fairly rigid and straight, and can often fiddle its way through a hole that has loose debris in it. I have some lengths of 3mm dia high tensile wire (actually some offcuts from a suspension bridge cable, courtesy of British Ropes). With difficulty I have made eyes in these and they will push through most things and bring the cable along as well. I also have some old radio-telephone aerials which I use in much the same way. Blakes make tubes for the purpose. It is possible to draw a thin wire back through the hole by attaching it to the business end of an HDS masonry drill. Sounds impossible but the cutting edge is a bit wider than the flume behind it. Surprisingly, with the aid of a torch it is sometimes possible to see into the hole alongside the cable, and fiddle the cable past the obstruction In this case drill a 9 or 10mm hole for a 6mm cable. Bill I always use a 24" length of 2mm stainless wire to get a cable through a cavity wall. The wire is pushed a short distance into the cable insulation. It is then "felt through" the holes and across the gap and the cable is then pushed straight through. Very quick and easy and can all be done from the outside until the connector is fitted indoors. Richard H |
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane Not usually any need for a draw wire across a cavity. Just drill the hole, straighten the coax and insert, twisting and "feeling". Occasionally you might need to put the drill bit through once more to clear debris. Had one of these today, but cavity was about 2ft across (timber clad building of unusual construction). You can get someone to put the drill through, then just push the drill bit back gently with the cable. Works a treat & stops the cable going into the cavity. |
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I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FXCRSD.html I use these and can fish 2 shotgun cables from a 16mm hole drilled diagonally upwards into the cavity. If the cavity wall is open at the top, they push right into the roofspace even on 2 story buildings. Glenn... Even past injected cavity wall insulation;!?.... If you mean those wee polystyrene balls, yes. Glenn. -- Glenn Millar - TV Aerials www.glennmillar.plus.com http://tinyurl.com/glennmillar-tvaerials |
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"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message om... "Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. Geoff Lane Not usually any need for a draw wire across a cavity. Just drill the hole, straighten the coax and insert, twisting and "feeling". Occasionally you might need to put the drill bit through once more to clear debris. Had one of these today, but cavity was about 2ft across (timber clad building of unusual construction). Ha! reminds me of one in some shops a while back. I drilled and the drill went through but it didn't come out at the other side. Turned out someone in the dim and distant had bricked up two shallow alcoves to give a straight run of wall, then put a studding wall over that, so there was a void about 2ft across. Just shoved the piece of suspension bridge through it though -- no problem. Bill |
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Paul Matthews wrote:
Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. If you are usig a decent cable, it will probably just push through without much fuss. Nice to know the options though if it doesn't :( Geoff Lane |
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... Paul Matthews wrote: Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. If you are usig a decent cable, it will probably just push through without much fuss. Nice to know the options though if it doesn't :( It's just great when it seems to be going through OK so you start to shove it all in, then you get a nasty suspicion that something's wrong, because you're meeting more and more resistance. Of course it's dropped into the cavity, and when you try to pull it back you can't because it's all tangled up! Bugger! Incidentally I've done wuite a lot of work to my website recently. There's a lot of new stuff on there. One day I will write something about the hazards of drilling holes in people's houses for my website. I've many a tale to tell. Meanwhile, take a look at http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/stories...-to-drill.html Have a look round the site while you're there, and give me a bit of feedback if you would. Bill |
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On 20/09/2008 15:19, Bill Wright wrote:
Have a look round the site while you're there, and give me a bit of feedback if you would. With javascript disabled in the browser, your whizzy menus don't allow allow navigating around the site properly. There also seem to be some images which haven't been resized, merely displayed at a smaller size by using width/height tags, this makes them slow to download, e.g. http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/images/...0ch imney.jpg as used in http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/service.../domestic.html A couple of the .PDF files don't use your Acrobat icon to indicate this, but plenty of good stuff as ever. |
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Bill Wright wrote:
Meanwhile, take a look at http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/stories...-to-drill.html Hilarious :) Have a look round the site while you're there, and give me a bit of feedback if you would. Bill, I've viewed your site before and think it is excellent, aerial issues and photography are very amusing and the reference links are very useful. Geoff Lane |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message news:[email protected] On 20/09/2008 15:19, Bill Wright wrote: Have a look round the site while you're there, and give me a bit of feedback if you would. With javascript disabled in the browser, your whizzy menus don't allow allow navigating around the site properly. There also seem to be some images which haven't been resized, merely displayed at a smaller size by using width/height tags, this makes them slow to download, e.g. http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/images/...0ch imney.jpg as used in http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/service.../domestic.html A couple of the .PDF files don't use your Acrobat icon to indicate this, but plenty of good stuff as ever. Thanks. Bill |
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... Bill Wright wrote: Meanwhile, take a look at http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/stories...-to-drill.html Hilarious :) Have a look round the site while you're there, and give me a bit of feedback if you would. Bill, I've viewed your site before and think it is excellent, aerial issues and photography are very amusing and the reference links are very useful. Geoff Lane Thank you. Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... "Geoff Lane" wrote in message ... Paul Matthews wrote: Geoff Lane wrote: I live in a property that has a cavity wall. If I want to feed some aerial cable through the double wall is there a suggestion or tool to get the cable through both walls. If you are usig a decent cable, it will probably just push through without much fuss. Nice to know the options though if it doesn't :( It's just great when it seems to be going through OK so you start to shove it all in, then you get a nasty suspicion that something's wrong, because you're meeting more and more resistance. Of course it's dropped into the cavity, and when you try to pull it back you can't because it's all tangled up! Bugger! Incidentally I've done wuite a lot of work to my website recently. There's a lot of new stuff on there. One day I will write something about the hazards of drilling holes in people's houses for my website. I've many a tale to tell. Meanwhile, take a look at http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/stories...-to-drill.html Have a look round the site while you're there, and give me a bit of feedback if you would. Bill Some good updates there Bill. Image 198 on the Rogues section is linking to the wrong image! |
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Some good updates there Bill. Ta. Image 198 on the Rogues section is linking to the wrong image! The Dexion one? What are you getting? It looks OK here. Bill |
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On 21/09/2008 03:17, Bill Wright wrote:
Image 198 on the Rogues section is linking to the wrong image! The Dexion one? What are you getting? It looks OK here. When you click it it goes to #195 the coax running in a gutter. |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message et... On 21/09/2008 03:17, Bill Wright wrote: Image 198 on the Rogues section is linking to the wrong image! The Dexion one? What are you getting? It looks OK here. When you click it it goes to #195 the coax running in a gutter. Ahh, I see what you mean. I have just emailed the webmaster thus: (start quote) Hello Mike http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/view.html When you click on the actual thumbnail (as opposed to the word 'view') of Image 198 (the dexion arms) you are directed to the 'coax in the gutter' picture. Some sharp eyed bugger has just informed me of this. Bill (end quote) I hope you do not object to the appellation 'sharp eyed bugger' Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... "Andy Burns" wrote in message et... On 21/09/2008 03:17, Bill Wright wrote: Image 198 on the Rogues section is linking to the wrong image! The Dexion one? What are you getting? It looks OK here. When you click it it goes to #195 the coax running in a gutter. Ahh, I see what you mean. I have just emailed the webmaster thus: (start quote) Hello Mike http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/view.html When you click on the actual thumbnail (as opposed to the word 'view') of Image 198 (the dexion arms) you are directed to the 'coax in the gutter' picture. Some sharp eyed bugger has just informed me of this. Bill (end quote) I hope you do not object to the appellation 'sharp eyed bugger' Bill Not sure if you're referring to me or Andy B, but regardless it's relatively easy for us sharp eyed young-uns to tell the difference between a pair of extended brackets, and a plastic gutter with a cable in it. Obviously for all you older folk who probably struggle to remember which way round your pants go on in the morning, it's much harder to spot such subtle differences! |
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"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message om... Not sure if you're referring to me or Andy B, but regardless it's relatively easy for us sharp eyed young-uns to tell the difference between a pair of extended brackets, and a plastic gutter with a cable in it. Obviously for all you older folk who probably struggle to remember which way round your pants go on in the morning, it's much harder to spot such subtle differences! You cheeky young bugger! Just you wait! Bill |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:03:17 GMT, "-GB-Carpy"
wrote: "Bill Wright" wrote in message .. . "Andy Burns" wrote in message et... On 21/09/2008 03:17, Bill Wright wrote: Image 198 on the Rogues section is linking to the wrong image! The Dexion one? What are you getting? It looks OK here. When you click it it goes to #195 the coax running in a gutter. Ahh, I see what you mean. I have just emailed the webmaster thus: (start quote) Hello Mike http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/view.html When you click on the actual thumbnail (as opposed to the word 'view') of Image 198 (the dexion arms) you are directed to the 'coax in the gutter' picture. Some sharp eyed bugger has just informed me of this. Bill (end quote) I hope you do not object to the appellation 'sharp eyed bugger' Bill Not sure if you're referring to me or Andy B, but regardless it's relatively easy for us sharp eyed young-uns to tell the difference between a pair of extended brackets, and a plastic gutter with a cable in it. Obviously for all you older folk who probably struggle to remember which way round your pants go on in the morning, it's much harder to spot such subtle differences! Oh God, that reminds me of the other day when I went to the loo at Addenbrooke's Hospital, unzipped my flies and lo & behold, my pants were on back to front! Had to whip my trousers off and return my pants to their default setting. Then continued to pee hapilly :-) Marky P. |
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On 21/09/2008 22:42, Marky P wrote:
unzipped my flies and lo & behold, my pants were on back to front! I suppose you *have* shared worse information with us ;-) |
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"Marky P" wrote in message ... Oh God, that reminds me of the other day when I went to the loo at Addenbrooke's Hospital, unzipped my flies and lo & behold, my pants were on back to front! Had to whip my trousers off and return my pants to their default setting. Then continued to pee hapilly :-) When I'm just not going to reveal what happened to me as I cycled down the road from Crawley Court, having just had a tour of the dish farm. But I had to throw away my underpants, trousers, and bicycle saddle. Bill |
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