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Roderick Stewart[_2_] September 15th 08 01:25 PM

itv hd
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
For a long time some production people have thought removing definition
makes video look more like film. Probably because the only film they
watched was from the back row of some fleapit without their glasses to try
and impress some slapper.


You're probably right. I've always regarded the reasoning behind the various
electronic attempts to impart a "filmic" look to television as two failures
of logic for the price of one-

1. They generally *don't* make television look much like film.

2. Even if they did, it wouldn't make the pictures any more realistic.

I suppose they both spring from a failure to understand that photography is
supposed to make a convincing presentation of the subject matter and not the
technology. Furthermore, attempting to make one type of technology imitate
another type of technology is even more irrelevant and doesn't tell the
story any better (and probably doesn't impress slappers either).

Rod.
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J G Miller[_4_] September 15th 08 03:18 PM

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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:39:07 +0100, heavyhorses wrote:
Because life dose exist out side the M25,

But not Life As We Know It ...

*mush* to the surprise of those within it.

That is what happens when you boil your tatties for too long.

Ian September 15th 08 04:48 PM

itv hd
 
In message en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart writes
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
For a long time some production people have thought removing definition
makes video look more like film. Probably because the only film they
watched was from the back row of some fleapit without their glasses to try
and impress some slapper.


You're probably right. I've always regarded the reasoning behind the various
electronic attempts to impart a "filmic" look to television as two failures
of logic for the price of one-

1. They generally *don't* make television look much like film.

2. Even if they did, it wouldn't make the pictures any more realistic.

I suppose they both spring from a failure to understand that photography is
supposed to make a convincing presentation of the subject matter and not the
technology. Furthermore, attempting to make one type of technology imitate
another type of technology is even more irrelevant and doesn't tell the
story any better (and probably doesn't impress slappers either).

Rod.


As an aside to this, has anyone else noticed the ridiculous touched-up
faces of the women in the L'oreal lipstick ads?

They may as well not use real women at all.
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Ian

Roderick Stewart[_2_] September 15th 08 06:46 PM

itv hd
 
In article , Ian wrote:
As an aside to this, has anyone else noticed the ridiculous touched-up
faces of the women in the L'oreal lipstick ads?

They may as well not use real women at all.


They're not real women are they? I thought they used alien life-forms
called "supermodels" and "celebrities", which are probably genetically as
closely related to ral women as the weeds in my back garden.

Rod.
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Grimly Curmudgeon September 26th 08 08:01 PM

itv hd
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Ian
saying something like:

As an aside to this, has anyone else noticed the ridiculous touched-up
faces of the women in the L'oreal lipstick ads?


Or the bloody awful dubbing of English-speaking voices over German/Dutch
adverts? In Ireland we have to suffer some UK ads with Oirish voices
splattered over them with terrible sync. Frankly, I'd rather they just
left them in the original, as some do.
--

Dave

Dave Plowman (News) September 27th 08 01:17 AM

itv hd
 
In article ,
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Or the bloody awful dubbing of English-speaking voices over German/Dutch
adverts? In Ireland we have to suffer some UK ads with Oirish voices
splattered over them with terrible sync. Frankly, I'd rather they just
left them in the original, as some do.


The vast majority of 'posh' ads are post synced anyway and often with
different actors - glamourous models don't always have the best voices.

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Grimly Curmudgeon September 27th 08 02:15 PM

itv hd
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Plowman (News)"
saying something like:

In article ,
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Or the bloody awful dubbing of English-speaking voices over German/Dutch
adverts? In Ireland we have to suffer some UK ads with Oirish voices
splattered over them with terrible sync. Frankly, I'd rather they just
left them in the original, as some do.


The vast majority of 'posh' ads are post synced anyway and often with
different actors - glamourous models don't always have the best voices.


With what I know of the ad industry the dubbing on some of them is
probably left until five minutes before the deadline, which would
certainly explain the rubbish results on a few.
--

Dave

Dave Plowman (News) September 27th 08 03:50 PM

itv hd
 
In article ,
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Plowman (News)"
saying something like:


In article , Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:
Or the bloody awful dubbing of English-speaking voices over
German/Dutch adverts? In Ireland we have to suffer some UK ads with
Oirish voices splattered over them with terrible sync. Frankly, I'd
rather they just left them in the original, as some do.


The vast majority of 'posh' ads are post synced anyway and often with
different actors - glamourous models don't always have the best voices.


With what I know of the ad industry the dubbing on some of them is
probably left until five minutes before the deadline, which would
certainly explain the rubbish results on a few.


Could be. The best way would be to record the sound first and get the
actors to mine to that. But I suspect it's often the other way round.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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