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Mark Carver September 12th 08 11:23 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-

320 Gig HDD

Will at the very least record two channels simultaneously, in practice
should be possible to watch a third channel if that channel shares a
transponder with one of the two already recording, though this extra
functionality will not be publicised or guaranteed.

1 Watt 'standby' consumption. Confirmed that LNBs will not be energised
in that mode, however PVR will be intelligent enough to know if a s/w
update is due, and will still capture it. I assume that the machine will
need to have been on during previous recent days to know that! Engineer
I spoke to was reluctant to elaborate on how that would work.

Unit will be able to record, and have timer set for ITV HD events. Again
the engineer would not elaborate on how that would work, but he said
it's certainly within the scope of the box, and design effort has been
applied to make sure it will work. (ITV HD is not on an EPG channel,
it's a 'Press Red' interactive stream).

I saw the on-screen menus, and EPG. Very similar look to the HD Foxsat
box, but I was told these were not the final production versions. All
looked OK, logical, and intuitive.

Two USB connectors (one front, one back) for connecting standard USB HDD
external drives for file transfer and storage. Files from Humax will be
TS format, so you should be able to de-mux for ripping to 'other media' etc.

Ethernet port on rear. Engineer wouldn't say why, but did say 'exciting
future functionality'

Two Scarts, and one HDMI socket.

Smoked perspex front flap, so no buttons on outside. Obligatory blue LED
shines through flap.

Box was nice and cool, although when I arrived HDD was not (actively)
running.

Size, (I didn't have a tape measure) but I estimate 370ish wide, 250ish
deep, 45ish high.

Michael Chare September 13th 08 01:51 AM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-

Ethernet port on rear. Engineer wouldn't say why, but did say 'exciting
future functionality'



Thanks! I hope the say 'exciting future functionality' is more than just he
BBC iPlayer!

--
Michael Chare


PAJ[_2_] September 13th 08 12:43 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:51:16 +0100, "Michael Chare"
wrote:

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-

Ethernet port on rear. Engineer wouldn't say why, but did say 'exciting
future functionality'



Thanks! I hope the say 'exciting future functionality' is more than just he
BBC iPlayer!


probably more like an FTP server.

Andy Dee[_2_] September 13th 08 01:13 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Mark Carver wrote:
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-

Thanks for this...

I WANT ONE!

Michael Chare September 13th 08 10:07 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
"PAJ" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:51:16 +0100, "Michael Chare"
wrote:

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-

Ethernet port on rear. Engineer wouldn't say why, but did say 'exciting
future functionality'



Thanks! I hope the say 'exciting future functionality' is more than just
he
BBC iPlayer!


probably more like an FTP server.



That has been suggested on Digitalspy so I am keeping my figers crossed. To
be really good you should be able to have two and use the 2nd to plly a
recording stored on the first.

--
Michael Chare


Mark Carver September 14th 08 09:08 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Andy Dee wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-

Thanks for this...

I WANT ONE!


Here's some poor quality pictures taken in non ideal light, and using my
mobile phone.

http://www.markyboy.net/humax1.JPG

http://www.markyboy.net/humax2.JPG

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Alan September 14th 08 10:10 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
In message , Mark Carver
wrote
Andy Dee wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-

Thanks for this...
I WANT ONE!


Here's some poor quality pictures taken in non ideal light, and using
my mobile phone.

http://www.markyboy.net/humax1.JPG

http://www.markyboy.net/humax2.JPG



Is a 320G hard disk 'massive' when considering HD TV or is it equivalent
to a 80G disk in a freeview PVR? My SD Freeview recorder often runs
with 250/300g used (400G disk fitted).
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Jim Price September 14th 08 11:48 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Mark Carver wrote:
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-


Thanks for the report.

Two Scarts, and one HDMI socket.


Any idea if the HDMI is HDCP infected?

--
JimP

Mark Carver September 14th 08 11:59 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Jim Price wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-


Thanks for the report.

Two Scarts, and one HDMI socket.


Any idea if the HDMI is HDCP infected?


Probably can be tagged as such by the broadcaster.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=823306


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

sedum September 15th 08 09:53 AM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:27 +0100, Alan
wrote:



Is a 320G hard disk 'massive' when considering HD TV or is it equivalent
to a 80G disk in a freeview PVR? My SD Freeview recorder often runs
with 250/300g used (400G disk fitted).


BBC HD recordings on my PC from the Astra satellite come in at approx.
7.5 GB per hour.

Adrian[_3_] September 15th 08 11:31 AM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Jim Price wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
Well, saw it today at the IBC exhibition in Amsterdam:-


Thanks for the report.

Two Scarts, and one HDMI socket.


Any idea if the HDMI is HDCP infected?


HDCP is part of the HDMI specification.



Brian McIlwrath September 15th 08 12:06 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Jim Price wrote:

: Any idea if the HDMI is HDCP infected?

It will be!

The current Humax Foxsat disables its component outputs and (bizarrely!!!) even
its SCART RGB on BBCHD (AFAIK!) so it is pretty much bound to use HDCP as
well.

Brian McIlwrath September 15th 08 12:09 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
sedum wrote:
: BBC HD recordings on my PC from the Astra satellite come in at approx.
: 7.5 GB per hour.

Sky have very markedly reduced their HD HDD consumption (with no obvious
quality degredation) by using new encoders - of course they have also always
used MPEG4-based DVBS2. So there is scope for the BBC to improve!

Alan September 15th 08 05:45 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
In message , sedum
wrote
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:27 +0100, Alan
wrote:



Is a 320G hard disk 'massive' when considering HD TV or is it equivalent
to a 80G disk in a freeview PVR? My SD Freeview recorder often runs
with 250/300g used (400G disk fitted).


BBC HD recordings on my PC from the Astra satellite come in at approx.
7.5 GB per hour.



Freeview SD is around 2G/hour for the BBC and 1G/hour for the commercial
channels. This means that the 'massive' 320G hard disk on the new HD PVR
is equivalent to having a 40 to 80G hard disk fitted to a SD PVR. It
may be worth waiting for the 1T hard disk version :)
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Jim[_8_] September 15th 08 06:25 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Alan wrote:
In message , sedum
wrote
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:27 +0100, Alan
wrote:



Is a 320G hard disk 'massive' when considering HD TV or is it equivalent
to a 80G disk in a freeview PVR? My SD Freeview recorder often runs
with 250/300g used (400G disk fitted).


BBC HD recordings on my PC from the Astra satellite come in at approx.
7.5 GB per hour.



Freeview SD is around 2G/hour for the BBC and 1G/hour for the commercial
channels. This means that the 'massive' 320G hard disk on the new HD PVR
is equivalent to having a 40 to 80G hard disk fitted to a SD PVR. It
may be worth waiting for the 1T hard disk version :)


Not really. How many hours a day of HD content are
there on Freesat at the moment? Time-shifting isn't
really a problem.

Simon Slavin September 16th 08 10:13 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
On 14/09/2008, Mark Carver wrote in message
:

Here's some poor quality pictures taken in non ideal light, and using my
mobile phone.

http://www.markyboy.net/humax1.JPG

http://www.markyboy.net/humax2.JPG


Why does it say 'FOXSAT' if it's Humax ?

Simon.
--
http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk

Peter Duncanson September 17th 08 02:23 AM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:13:59 +0100, Simon Slavin
. uk wrote:

On 14/09/2008, Mark Carver wrote in message
:

Here's some poor quality pictures taken in non ideal light, and using my
mobile phone.

http://www.markyboy.net/humax1.JPG

http://www.markyboy.net/humax2.JPG


Why does it say 'FOXSAT' if it's Humax ?

FOXSAT HDR is the model name.

I don't know why they use the letters FOX but they are used in other model
names:
http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/produ...oduct_list.asp

Terrestrial STB


- PVR-9300T
- PVR-9150T
- F2-FOX T
- PVR-9200TB
- PVR-9200TBX

Satellite STB


- F3-FOX CI
- FOXSAT HD
- HDCI-2000 (High Definition)
- VA-ACE+


Ian September 17th 08 02:24 AM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
In message , Simon Slavin
. uk writes
On 14/09/2008, Mark Carver wrote in message
:

Here's some poor quality pictures taken in non ideal light, and using my
mobile phone.

http://www.markyboy.net/humax1.JPG

http://www.markyboy.net/humax2.JPG


Why does it say 'FOXSAT' if it's Humax ?

Simon.


http://www.humaxdigital.com/freesat/support_manual.asp
--
Ian

Adrian[_3_] September 17th 08 10:52 AM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
Simon Slavin wrote:
On 14/09/2008, Mark Carver wrote in message
:

Here's some poor quality pictures taken in non ideal light, and
using my mobile phone.

http://www.markyboy.net/humax1.JPG

http://www.markyboy.net/humax2.JPG


Why does it say 'FOXSAT' if it's Humax ?

Simon.


Because it's based on a model made for the Fox network in Australia and for
some reason they kept the name.



Simon Slavin September 19th 08 11:22 PM

Humax Freesat PVR
 
On 16/09/2008, Simon Slavin wrote in message
:

On 14/09/2008, Mark Carver wrote in message
:

Here's some poor quality pictures taken in non ideal light, and using
my mobile phone.

http://www.markyboy.net/humax1.JPG

http://www.markyboy.net/humax2.JPG


Why does it say 'FOXSAT' if it's Humax ?


Thanks to all three who replied and especially Adrian who got the most
informative answer.

Simon.
--
http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk


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