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tim..... September 14th 08 02:21 PM

Aerial costs?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Tony wrote:
Inevitably they will install reject/counterfeit quality components they
cleverly sourced (also on ebay) and resist or blatantly refuse to sort
out problems which occur as a result of their poor workmanship or
substandard components. They will have bought large quantities of these
poor quality components and be in a process of getting rid of it so they
can get better stuff which of course costs more, if of course they have
the ability to figure out what the problem is in the first place.


Ebay gives a false sense of protection, especially if most buyers don't
notice the sh*te your passing on. If a few do notice and you tell them
to f off, you get a few '-ves' but still a high rating.


...I might have an axe to grind.


It's only happened to me once - I bought a phone which turned out to be a
fake. Got an immediate refund. Just make sure anyone you deal with has
decent feedback going back some time.


I think the problem here is the installation costs.

I'm am sure that you can buy the "real" parts for 65 quid

tim




Silk September 14th 08 04:05 PM

Aerial costs?
 
Java Jive wrote:
You know I'm a stickler for technical and scientific accuracy, so ...
Can a sparrow fart, exactly?


It sticks its arse in the air and lets the wind go free. ;-)

Silk September 14th 08 04:08 PM

Aerial costs?
 
tony sayer wrote:
If you disagree with my figures (assumptions) then substitute your own
and you will arrive at what you consider to be the 'cost'. You will
then be able to compare your cost with the 'price' quoted and make a
judgment accordingly.


So he goes around on an old push bike, needs no insurance cover or test
equipment then?...


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?

charles September 14th 08 06:06 PM

Aerial costs?
 
In article ,
Silk wrote:
tony sayer wrote:
If you disagree with my figures (assumptions) then substitute your own
and you will arrive at what you consider to be the 'cost'. You will
then be able to compare your cost with the 'price' quoted and make a
judgment accordingly.


So he goes around on an old push bike, needs no insurance cover or test
equipment then?...


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?


Who suggested a 'posh' van - but you probably need a reliable one. How
does being 'professional' remove the need for insurance? You can't see
radio waves and no amount of skill will tell you what signal level the
aerial is producing at the bottom of the downlead.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


Silk September 14th 08 09:34 PM

Aerial costs?
 
charles wrote:
In article ,
Silk wrote:


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?


Who suggested a 'posh' van - but you probably need a reliable one. How
does being 'professional' remove the need for insurance?


If you're a proper professional you won't be making any mistakes or
having accidents.

You can't see
radio waves and no amount of skill will tell you what signal level the
aerial is producing at the bottom of the downlead.


A good "old fashioned" rigger will have a feel for these things.

Glenn Millar September 14th 08 10:39 PM

Aerial costs?
 
Silk wrote:
charles wrote:
In article ,
Silk wrote:


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?


Who suggested a 'posh' van - but you probably need a reliable one. How
does being 'professional' remove the need for insurance?



Public Liability insurance should be required by law. Insurance is there
to protect both the professional installer as well as the customer.

Even professionals can drop a pair of Combination Pliers from their tool
belts. Imagine the dent that would make in a car bonnet, or someone's head.

I would love to see more enforcement on health and safety, in
particular, working at heights issues.

If you're a proper professional you won't be making any mistakes or
having accidents.

You can't see
radio waves and no amount of skill will tell you what signal level the
aerial is producing at the bottom of the downlead.


A good "old fashioned" rigger will have a feel for these things.


Bill relies on his Promax Prolink 4C and other meters, as do I. One
doesn't just have a feel for BER or C/N. It takes a professional to use
test equipment correctly.



--

Glenn Millar - TV Aerials

www.glennmillar.plus.com

http://tinyurl.com/glennmillar-tvaerials

tim..... September 14th 08 10:40 PM

Aerial costs?
 

"Silk" wrote in message
...
charles wrote:
In article ,
Silk wrote:


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?


Who suggested a 'posh' van - but you probably need a reliable one. How
does being 'professional' remove the need for insurance?


If you're a proper professional you won't be making any mistakes or having
accidents.


Then insurance for same would cost almost nothing.

It doesn't. Why do you think that is?

tim




Max Demian September 14th 08 11:55 PM

Aerial costs?
 
"Glenn Millar" wrote in message
et...
Silk wrote:
charles wrote:
In article ,
Silk wrote:


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?

Who suggested a 'posh' van - but you probably need a reliable one. How
does being 'professional' remove the need for insurance?


Public Liability insurance should be required by law. Insurance is there
to protect both the professional installer as well as the customer.


Insurance is there to make large profits for the insurance companies and
give customers a false sense of security.

--
Max Demian



tony sayer September 15th 08 12:27 AM

Aerial costs?
 
In article , Silk
scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:
If you disagree with my figures (assumptions) then substitute your own
and you will arrive at what you consider to be the 'cost'. You will
then be able to compare your cost with the 'price' quoted and make a
judgment accordingly.


So he goes around on an old push bike, needs no insurance cover or test
equipment then?...


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?


That could have only come from you;(..

Walter....
--
Tony Sayer



tony sayer September 15th 08 12:28 AM

Aerial costs?
 
In article , Silk
scribeth thus
charles wrote:
In article ,
Silk wrote:


What's wrong with someone who doesn't waste money on a posh van, is
professional enough not to need insurance and relies on skill rather
than gadgets? Hmm?


Who suggested a 'posh' van - but you probably need a reliable one. How
does being 'professional' remove the need for insurance?


If you're a proper professional you won't be making any mistakes or
having accidents.


So you are a God then AICMFP:!...

You can't see
radio waves and no amount of skill will tell you what signal level the
aerial is producing at the bottom of the downlead.


A good "old fashioned" rigger will have a feel for these things.


Yep but DTV isn't old fashioned;!...

--
Tony Sayer



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