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tony sayer wrote:


And the UK will have that bit of spectrum and system no doubt all to
itself!..

I don't think so!

See 'Study on "Exploiting the Digital Dividend", a European Approach.'

http://ec.europa.eu/information_soci...act_notice.pdf

which begins:

"The switchover from analogue to digital terrestrial TV by the end of
2012 will free up an unprecedented amount of spectrum in Europe as a
result of the superior transmission efficiency
of digital technology

This spectrum is known as the “digital dividend”. The digital dividend
is a unique opportunity to meet the fast growing demand for wireless
electronic communications services: it opens up sufficient spectrum for
broadcasters to significantly develop and expand their services while
at the same time ensuring that other important social and economic uses,
such as broadband applications to overcome the “digital divide”, have
access to this valuable resource. The digital dividend therefore
potentially creates a “win/win” situation for the main interested
parties. The digital dividend, if properly managed, is also expected to
support the i2010 initiative part of the renewed Lisbon strategy, which
emphasises the importance of ICT in delivering growth and jobs as a
major driver of innovation and productivity gains."

You'll need to get your skates on, though, because "the closing date for
submitting a tender is 1 September 2008."

Terry

2 New muxes planned - one out of GRP A - Crystal Palace
 

In article , Terry Casey
scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:


And the UK will have that bit of spectrum and system no doubt all to
itself!..

I don't think so!

See 'Study on "Exploiting the Digital Dividend", a European Approach.'


Lets hope its a a bit more compatible than the DAB abortion..

http://ec.europa.eu/information_soci...all_tenders/di
gital_dividend/contract_notice.pdf

which begins:

"The switchover from analogue to digital terrestrial TV by the end of
2012 will free up an unprecedented amount of spectrum in Europe as a
result of the superior transmission efficiency
of digital technology

Yes, how to make good pictures **** poor by too much compression;(..

This spectrum is known as the “digital dividend�. The digital dividend
is a unique opportunity to meet the fast growing demand for wireless
electronic communications services:

Stealth tax..

it opens up sufficient spectrum for
broadcasters to significantly develop and expand their services while
at the same time ensuring that other important social and economic uses,
such as broadband applications to overcome the “digital divide�, have
access to this valuable resource.

Yes good source of loot for the guvverment..

The digital dividend therefore
potentially creates a “win/win� situation for the main interested
parties.

Especially the government..

The digital dividend, if properly managed, is also expected to
support the i2010 initiative part of the renewed Lisbon strategy, which
emphasises the importance of ICT in delivering growth and jobs as a
major driver of innovation and productivity gains."

Of course it does..


You'll need to get your skates on, though, because "the closing date for
submitting a tender is 1 September 2008."


Wonder anyone's got any money;!..


Terry

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Tony Sayer

2 New muxes planned - one out of GRP A - Crystal Palace
 

wrote in message
...
TV is important, but much is just entertainment,
broadband is much more than that.

Or to put it another way, broadband is important, but much is just
entertainment,
TV is much more than that.

Bill

2 New muxes planned - one out of GRP A - Crystal Palace
 

On 22 Aug., 02:49, "Bill Wright" wrote:
wrote in message

...

TV is important, but much is just entertainment,
broadband is much more than that.

Or to put it another way, broadband is important, but much is just
entertainment,
TV is much more than that.

Bill

No - you look at broadband as a source
of private entertainment - I and Ofcom and EU
and ... do NOT see it that way.

More and more jobs depend directly upon the availability
of broadband services. No modern farmer can operate without
Internet access, no business can operate without E-mail, in
many countries you must send invoices via some electronic
service, many depend on the Internet for working from home,
school-children must have access to the Internet even in
the lower grades and and and.....

This is easy in populated areas, but in rural areas
UHF based wireless-broadband can be the one and
only way to get an OK speed and coverage.
If we want to keep some people in these rural
areas, then wireless broadband is a MUST

The current trend is to focus on the WRC07 plan for
broadband ( 4G mobile services) using 790-862 MHz
or Channel 61-62 - and these channels ONLY.

The UK fanatic and extremist attitude to 'the aerial group
religion' of analogue-TV fame, has made the WRC07
plan difficult to bring to the UK.

Read the responses from T-mobile, Vodafone, BT....
- well the wast majority - to the Ofcom consultation
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/clearedaward/

Lars :)

2 New muxes planned - one out of GRP A - Crystal Palace
 

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:34:55 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On 22 Aug., 02:49, "Bill Wright" wrote:
wrote in message

...

TV is important, but much is just entertainment,
broadband is much more than that.

Or to put it another way, broadband is important, but much is just
entertainment,
TV is much more than that.

Bill

No - you look at broadband as a source
of private entertainment - I and Ofcom and EU
and ... do NOT see it that way.

More and more jobs depend directly upon the availability
of broadband services. No modern farmer can operate without
Internet access, no business can operate without E-mail, in
many countries you must send invoices via some electronic
service, many depend on the Internet for working from home,
school-children must have access to the Internet even in
the lower grades and and and.....

This is easy in populated areas, but in rural areas
UHF based wireless-broadband can be the one and
only way to get an OK speed and coverage.
If we want to keep some people in these rural
areas, then wireless broadband is a MUST

The current trend is to focus on the WRC07 plan for
broadband ( 4G mobile services) using 790-862 MHz
or Channel 61-62 - and these channels ONLY.

The UK fanatic and extremist attitude to 'the aerial group
religion' of analogue-TV fame, has made the WRC07
plan difficult to bring to the UK.

Read the responses from T-mobile, Vodafone, BT....
- well the wast majority - to the Ofcom consultation
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/clearedaward/

Lars :)



Well they would say that, wouldn't they!

2 New muxes planned - one out of GRP A - Crystal Palace
 

Channels 31 to 40, and 61 to 69. If it wasn't for this channels 32, 33,
34 and 37 would still be available at Crystal Palace after analogue
switch
off.

No this is NOT true.
Only channel 33 and 37 are allowed to transmit
with full power from CP, plus channel 22,23,25,26,
28 and 30 that will transmit PSB 1-3 and COM 1-3
from CP.

I wonder why the power limits on channels 32 and 34 are any different from
those that apply to channels 22, 25, and 28, since they are all additional
allocations for DTT which have never been used for high power analogue at
Crystal Palace?

2 New muxes planned - one out of GRP A - Crystal Palace
 

In article .
com, scribeth thus
On 22 Aug., 02:49, "Bill Wright" wrote:
wrote in message

...

TV is important, but much is just entertainment,
broadband is much more than that.

Or to put it another way, broadband is important, but much is just
entertainment,
TV is much more than that.

Bill

No - you look at broadband as a source
of private entertainment - I and Ofcom and EU
and ... do NOT see it that way.

More and more jobs depend directly upon the availability
of broadband services. No modern farmer can operate without
Internet access,

Yes they can .. I know several poor old East Anglian grain barons who
have hardy any idea how to operate a computer!..

no business can operate without E-mail, in
many countries you must send invoices via some electronic
service, many depend on the Internet for working from home,
school-children must have access to the Internet even in
the lower grades and and and.....

This is easy in populated areas, but in rural areas
UHF based wireless-broadband can be the one and
only way to get an OK speed and coverage.
If we want to keep some people in these rural
areas, then wireless broadband is a MUST

Reckon that those frequencies will have the capacity ?. And not
everywhere isn't serviced by phone wires.. Several radio based service
providers have come and gone.. Usually after the local exchange is
equipped with broadband!..


The current trend is to focus on the WRC07 plan for
broadband ( 4G mobile services) using 790-862 MHz
or Channel 61-62 - and these channels ONLY.

The UK fanatic and extremist attitude to 'the aerial group
religion' of analogue-TV fame, has made the WRC07
plan difficult to bring to the UK.

Don't think so it isn't -that- good a business case..

Read the responses from T-mobile, Vodafone, BT....
- well the wast majority - to the Ofcom consultation
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/clearedaward/

Lars :)





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Tony Sayer

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On 22 Aug., 17:20, "Stephen"
wrote:
I wonder why the power limits on channels 32 and 34 are any different from
those that apply to channels 22, 25, and 28, since they are all additional
allocations for DTT which have never been used for high power analogue at
Crystal Palace?

There is an international plan GE06 that
allows a total of 8 high power channels to be used
from CP. All orher channels are not allowed at
CP, some are at other UK locations and some are used
in France, Belgium and Holland.
Use of some channels at lower power and often
with directional restrictions is possible.

Lars :)

2 New muxes planned - one out of GRP A - Crystal Palace
 

In article
..com, scribeth thus
On 22 Aug., 17:20, "Stephen"
wrote:
I wonder why the power limits on channels 32 and 34 are any different from
those that apply to channels 22, 25, and 28, since they are all additional
allocations for DTT which have never been used for high power analogue at
Crystal Palace?

There is an international plan GE06 that
allows a total of 8 high power channels to be used
from CP. All orher channels are not allowed at
CP, some are at other UK locations and some are used
in France, Belgium and Holland.
Use of some channels at lower power and often
with directional restrictions is possible.

Lars :)

Yes seen those predicted on the NGW website.. Right pigs ears they are
too;!..

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Tony Sayer