Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

I'm planning to go for Freesat from Sky. As I mentioned in another
thread today, I already have a Panasonic DMR-EX75B DVD recorder and an
analog TV, connected to each other via a SCART lead.

I wouldn't recognise a Sky digital box if it bit me in the ankle, and I
couldn't find any helpful information on the web, so I need to know what
outputs are available from the box:

1. Is there a Video (or S Video) Output plus Left/Right Audio Outputs
from the Sky box that I can plug into the DVD recorder video and audio
inputs?

and/or

2. Is there a SCART output from the Sky box that I can plug into the
SCART input of the DVD recorder?

--
Ian

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Ian wrote:
I'm planning to go for Freesat from Sky. As I mentioned in another
thread today, I already have a Panasonic DMR-EX75B DVD recorder and an
analog TV, connected to each other via a SCART lead.

I wouldn't recognise a Sky digital box if it bit me in the ankle, and I
couldn't find any helpful information on the web, so I need to know what
outputs are available from the box:

1. Is there a Video (or S Video) Output plus Left/Right Audio Outputs
from the Sky box that I can plug into the DVD recorder video and audio
inputs?

and/or

2. Is there a SCART output from the Sky box that I can plug into the
SCART input of the DVD recorder?

All bog standard Sky Digiboxes are the same:-

Two Scart sockets; marked TV and VCR

The TV Scart outputs RGB and Composite (CBVS) video, as well as a WSS flag on
Pin 8

The VCR Scart can only output CBVS.

Additionally if you apply an RGB or CBVS signal into the VCR Scart socket,
this is passed through to the TV Scart output socket when the box is in
standby. Useful if your TV only has a single RGB equipped Scart input etc,

There is also L and R analogue audio available on Phono (aka RCA) sockets.


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Mark
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Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Ian wrote:
I'm planning to go for Freesat from Sky. As I mentioned in another
thread today, I already have a Panasonic DMR-EX75B DVD recorder and an
analog TV, connected to each other via a SCART lead.

I wouldn't recognise a Sky digital box if it bit me in the ankle, and
I couldn't find any helpful information on the web, so I need to know
what outputs are available from the box:

1. Is there a Video (or S Video) Output plus Left/Right Audio Outputs
from the Sky box that I can plug into the DVD recorder video and audio
inputs?

and/or

2. Is there a SCART output from the Sky box that I can plug into the
SCART input of the DVD recorder?

Use a SCART lead from the video socket on the Sky box to the AV2 socket on
the Panasonic. Press the ext-link button on the Panasonic and use autoview
on the Sky box for acurate recordings. I know this only records CVBS and not
RGB but I use this method and find the pictures perfectly acceptable.
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Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

From: Mark Carver
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 Time: 17:51:01

All bog standard Sky Digiboxes are the same:-

Two Scart sockets; marked TV and VCR

The TV Scart outputs RGB and Composite (CBVS) video, as well as a WSS
flag on Pin 8

The VCR Scart can only output CBVS.

Additionally if you apply an RGB or CBVS signal into the VCR Scart
socket, this is passed through to the TV Scart output socket when the
box is in standby. Useful if your TV only has a single RGB equipped
Scart input etc,

There is also L and R analogue audio available on Phono (aka RCA) sockets.



Many thanks. Just what I needed to know.

--
Ian

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

From: Adrian
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 Time: 17:54:04

Use a SCART lead from the video socket on the Sky box to the AV2 socket on
the Panasonic. Press the ext-link button on the Panasonic and use autoview
on the Sky box for acurate recordings. I know this only records CVBS and not
RGB but I use this method and find the pictures perfectly acceptable.

Thanks Adrian.

--
Ian

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

I dislike Sky, so don't subscribe, so ICBW about the second point, but
last I heard:

1) FreeSatFromSky has no Hard Disk Recording or High Definition, both
are subscription only.
2) Sky+ Boxes with Hard Disk recording won't let you dub stuff off
the HD onto an external recorder.

Unless there are channels such as Five that you simply must have that
are available on FreeSatFromSky but not from FreeSat or FTA (and ISTR
rumours here that the Five channel set may be FTA in the
not-too-distant future), if you wish to put stuff for permanent record
onto DVD or Blu-Ray, then the best approach is to go FreeSat or FTA,
and get a box with Hard Disk recording that can be networked, or
connected to your PC via FireWire or USB.

FTA/FreeSat/Sky+ boxes record the digital stream directly, so there's
no loss of quality through conversion to analogue and back to digital
again, as there is with our Panasonic DVD/HD Recorders.

The direct connection to your PC by a recognised method is much more
convenient.

I'm still on SD, so my own setup can only stand as an example for a
HiDef system. I have a Dreambox FTA Receiver connected to my network
hub with its HD shared on the network, and when I'm ready to make a
DVD, I just copy the files via the network onto my hard disk and apply
the authoring software. Really it's *SO* simple compared with all the
faffing around with other methods. With the Pace Twin Freeview DTT, I
have to open up the box, remove the HD, and plug it into my PC, while
with the Panasonic DVD/HD Recorder, there's all the dubbing via easily
scratched DVD-RAMs, and the reencoding loses quality.

PS: Spell checker's subliminal suggested replacement for
FreeSatFromSky? Restrooms! Is it trying to say that's all it's fit
for?

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:39:31 +0100, Ian wrote:

I'm planning to go for Freesat from Sky. As I mentioned in another
thread today, I already have a Panasonic DMR-EX75B DVD recorder and an
analog TV, connected to each other via a SCART lead.

I wouldn't recognise a Sky digital box if it bit me in the ankle, and I
couldn't find any helpful information on the web, so I need to know what
outputs are available from the box:

1. Is there a Video (or S Video) Output plus Left/Right Audio Outputs
from the Sky box that I can plug into the DVD recorder video and audio
inputs?

and/or

2. Is there a SCART output from the Sky box that I can plug into the
SCART input of the DVD recorder?

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

uk.tech.digital-tv
Java Jive
Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:24:20 +0100


FreeSatFromSky has no Hard Disk Recording or High Definition, both
are subscription only.


http://www.johnstonetown.co.uk/sky_f...php?display=HD

143 BBC HD
140 CHANNEL 4 HD
286 LUXE TV HD

Although given there is only the 3 channels with no real prospect of any
more appearing on sky freesat - i removed the link from the nav bar .


--
www.skyepg.co.uk
(sky freesat channel listing)

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Java Jive wrote:
I dislike Sky, so don't subscribe, so ICBW about the second point, but
last I heard:

1) FreeSatFromSky has no].......[High Definition, both
are subscription only.

Wrong. Power up a Sky HD box [1] without any form of card, and you'll get BBC
HD and Luxe HD. Stick any old current FTV card in it, and in addition up pops
C4 HD.

It's arguably a better deal than a BBC Freesat HD box, because so far ITV HD
has proved to be a total waste of space, if you're fortunate enough to
actually catch it broadcasting. C4 HD is currently not available on BBC
Freesat because it's encrypted.

[1] Sky HD boxes can be obtained from ebay for around 150 quid (the same as a
new Humax Freesat HD box.)

I've been waiting for the Freesat HD PVR, but as a stop gap I've got myself a
second hand Sky HD box, which I use my 5 year old FTV card in.


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Mark
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Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Thanks for explaining that, Mark.

I'm trying to remember now why/whence I gained that impression. Could
it be that the boxes supplied from FreeSatFromSky, as opposed to 2nd
hand Sky HD ones obtained independently, aren't HD?

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:32:42 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Java Jive wrote:
1) FreeSatFromSky has no].......[High Definition, both
are subscription only.

Wrong. Power up a Sky HD box [1] without any form of card, and you'll get BBC
HD and Luxe HD. Stick any old current FTV card in it, and in addition up pops
C4 HD.

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Java Jive wrote:
Thanks for explaining that, Mark.

I'm trying to remember now why/whence I gained that impression. Could
it be that the boxes supplied from FreeSatFromSky, as opposed to 2nd
hand Sky HD ones obtained independently, aren't HD?

It's nothing more than the fact that Sky choose not to offer a 'Freesat' deal
for their HD box. Mind you if they did, they'd also have to offer PVR/Sky+
functionality, because all Sky HD boxes are PVRs. In my application the hard
disc is redundant and unusable, but still spins with futility !


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:43:47 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

Thanks for explaining that, Mark.

I'm trying to remember now why/whence I gained that impression. Could
it be that the boxes supplied from FreeSatFromSky, as opposed to 2nd
hand Sky HD ones obtained independently, aren't HD?

Yes that's how it works. As Mark tacitly admitted, the £150 fee for
FreeSatFromSky doesn't include HD:
http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/faqs-freesat.aspx#q4

So, actually, I was right ...

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Krustov wrote:
uk.tech.digital-tv
Java Jive
Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:24:20 +0100


FreeSatFromSky has no Hard Disk Recording or High Definition, both
are subscription only.


http://www.johnstonetown.co.uk/sky_f...php?display=HD

143 BBC HD
140 CHANNEL 4 HD
286 LUXE TV HD

Although given there is only the 3 channels with no real prospect of any
more appearing on sky freesat - i removed the link from the nav bar .


Yes you can get these HD channels if you buy a Sky HD box from an
independent, or off ebay or somewhere and use the £20 card you buy from Sky.

You will not get any HD channels from a 'Freesat from Sky' installation
at £150 from Sky as they only install standard Digiboxes.
--

Glenn Millar - TV Aerials

www.glennmillar.plus.com

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

On Aug 3, 5:54*pm, "Adrian" wrote:

Use a SCART lead from the video socket on the Sky box to the AV2 socket on
the Panasonic. Press the ext-link button on the Panasonic and use autoview
on the Sky box for acurate recordings. I know this only records CVBS and not
RGB but I use this method and find the pictures perfectly acceptable.
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I've used this method to record to my cheapo Funai HDD recorder many
times, but if I try and record to programmes in sucession on the same
channel using 'autoview' then the second programme doesn't record. I'm
not sure if this is typical or just a 'feature' of my old Pace 2200
Digibox:-/

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Ian wrote:
From: Mark Carver
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 Time: 17:51:01

All bog standard Sky Digiboxes are the same:-

Two Scart sockets; marked TV and VCR

The TV Scart outputs RGB and Composite (CBVS) video, as well as a WSS
flag on Pin 8

The VCR Scart can only output CBVS.

Additionally if you apply an RGB or CBVS signal into the VCR Scart
socket, this is passed through to the TV Scart output socket when the
box is in standby. Useful if your TV only has a single RGB equipped
Scart input etc,

There is also L and R analogue audio available on Phono (aka RCA)
sockets.



Many thanks. Just what I needed to know.

Yes, but it's a little easier than that, potentially. If your recorder
has 'RGB pass through' the trick is connect as follows:

Sky box TV out --- Recorder sat box in --- Recorder TV out --- TV

Your recorder's manual is your friend here for the exact specifics.

My Sky box is set for RGB picture (best possible).

This set-up works for me so that for example:

1) I can watch Sky using if the recorder is in standby.
2) I can watch Sky whilst recorder is recording a Freeview programme.
3) I can watch something from the recorder's HD whilst recording
something from Freeview.
4) I can watch something from the recorder's HD whilst recording
something from Sky.

I use fully-wired scart cables throughout, and I don't see any loss of
picture quality or any audio problems.

HTH


Clem

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

Outputs from Sky digital box?
 

On Aug 4, 11:24*am, "Adrian" wrote:
wrote:
I've used this method to record to my cheapo Funai HDD recorder many
times, but if I try and record to programmes in sucession on the same
channel using 'autoview' then the second programme doesn't record. I'm
not sure if this is typical or just a 'feature' of my old Pace 2200
Digibox:-/

The only time I've had that sort of problem is the following week when the
second programme drops off the epg.
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Maybe it's just a quirk of my ancient Pace box then; two weeks on the
trot I've tried to record the two episodes of 'The Avengers' on BBC4
late Friday night for the mrs., both times it has recorded the first
but not the second.