Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

In article ,
says...
On Jul 22, 10:39*pm, Adrian C wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote:
It was only a matter of time wasn't it? Try describing to a non-techno
what a digital television receiver with a hard drive does and they're
baffled, but then tell them it's "like Sky Plus, but for Freeview" and
understanding immediately dawns.

That does not work all the time. Some people are slipping further and
further behind. Information in commercials or word of mouth doesn't sink in.

"Sky Plus? What's that?? Oh it's technobable again for the kids - can't
be fussed with that - I'm meeting Doris for bridge at 4, got to water
the roses ...."

Don't wanna know ....

That's why Sky have the likes of Parky, David Gower and the plastic
surgerised Felicity kendall explaining how series link works on their
latest ads.

Is that because it stops working when the show's been off for a couple of
weeks so they need reminding? :)
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Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

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On Jul 22, 11:42*pm, Dom Robinson wrote:
In article , says.... Dom Robinson wrote:

I can see TiVo thinking of a rebrand :)

The new TiVo with dual tuner DTT & HD launches this month in Australia.

http://www.mytivo.com.au/index.php
http://www.mytivo.com.au/whatistivo/specifications.php

AU$699 = UK£339 one off payment.

Grrr! Now you owe me one new carpet after I just drooled all over it.
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It's an ugly thing though isnt it, looks like a saisho copy of a bang
and olufsen VCR circa 1989.

http://www.mytivo.com.au/whatistivo/#

Right, so you buy your electronics based on looks rather than functionality?
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Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

In article ,
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:29:49 +0100, Dom Robinson wrote:

In article en.co.uk,
says...
In article 184bfc48-a290-4558-8252-
, Ed wrote:
Freeview is rebranding its Freeview Playback digital TV recorders as
Freeview Plus in a bid to capilatise on the success of its rival Sky
Plus.

It was only a matter of time wasn't it? Try describing to a non-techno
what a digital television receiver with a hard drive does and they're
baffled, but then tell them it's "like Sky Plus, but for Freeview" and
understanding immediately dawns.

I describe TiVo to some people as "Like Sky+, but it works properly and
doesn't crash and require a full reformat whenever it feels like it"

Like Sky+ but with inferior picture quality & unable to record two programmes
at once or watch one programme while recording another. TiVo was ahead of its
time but sadly is now let down by old technology that needs updating.

If we had the advances that the US and Australia do then it would kick Sky+
arse in more departments, but as for picture quality I record most things on
Best or Higher which is fine - and I have a bigger beef about the fact that
the source material quality has decreased over time in bitrate, but then they
did that to eventually try and sell us HD and so if that takes a foothold then
the same thing will happen in a few years time when they sell us something
else.

Two tuners - Once in a blue moon is this a problem and I have a DVD recorder
as well.
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/* gta 4, waz, sweeney todd, city of heroee, heavenly creatures, blade trinity
New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
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Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

In article ,
says...
Like all things technical it's horses for courses again. I like my Sky+ for
the fire and forget series link (although it's not really fire and forget
because sometimes i

No, you were right first time. You fire. It forgets! :)
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Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

Zero Tolerance wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:31:02 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I still feel there would be a market for a cheap freeview double tuner and a
vhs video machine in a box.

There was a VHS video with a Freeview single tuner built in - it was
made by Daewoo. And, in fact, I believe it's one of the pieces of
equipment rendered unusable by recent "improvements" in the Freeview
specs.

I can say with some level of certainty that a VCR with DTT tuner will
never again arise. Nevermind a double tuner version that can't record 2
channels at once (although some PVRs can't do that either).

The freeview specs have not changed, nor have the DVB-T ones, its just
that they were not clear and companies wrote for the now, rather than
the complete standard. You could blame the mfrs for poor software or
you could blame the broadcasters for stupidly complex standards.

This was another Setpal sourced software and was actually a very good
product compared with analogue VCRs. The people responsible for Setpal
are no longer together and hence software is no longer supported.

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Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

Tony wrote:

I can say with some level of certainty that a VCR with DTT tuner will
never again arise. Nevermind a double tuner version that can't record 2
channels at once (although some PVRs can't do that either).

I believe that there are some VCR/DVDR combo units with DTT tuners.

--
Dave Farrance

Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

Ed wrote:
On 22 Jul, 17:32, JNugent wrote:
Ed wrote:
Missed this a week or two ago. Not that it means much!
http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/cgi-b...=254&h=260&f=3
Freeview is rebranding its Freeview Playback digital TV recorders as
Freeview Plus in a bid to capilatise on the success of its rival Sky
Plus. The Freeview Plus name will be rolled out across retail and
packaging over the next few months.
The move is part of an increased marketing effort to drive awareness
and sales of Freeview’s digital TV equipment. Marketing communications
director Rob Farmer says: “We are now upping our efforts and since
‘Plus’ has entered the vernacular in recent years, we think it makes
sense to reposition ourselves to take advantage of that.”
Sales of the recording boxes have been sluggish since launching in
April 2007, with around 330,000 sold. However, the basic Freeview box
is in more than 15 million homes and in March the company recorded
“all-time high” sales for 2007 with 9.7 million branded products sold.
More than a third of Sky's 8.8 million subscribers have a Sky Plus
box.
Freeview is owned by DTV Services, a joint venture between the BBC,
ITV, Channel 4, BSkyB and National Grid Wireless. It offers free-to-
air digital television, unlike the subscription services of Sky and
Virgin Media, the cable operator whose own digital recorder is branded
Virgin Plus. It also faces competition from Freesat, the subscription-
free satellite service from the BBC and ITV.
Uptake of digital TV recorders is growing 76% year on year, according
to figures from GfK, which Freeview hopes to accelerate further with
the rebrand and marketing campaign. Analogue video recorders will be
defunct following the switchover to digital, which is being rolled out
regionally up to 2012.
Quick question, if you're able to assist:

If a PVR is branded "Freeview Playback" (or "Freeview Plus"), does that
mean that it will have the facilities for:

(a) series link / season pass?

(b) some sort of broadcast signal control of how long the recording
lasts (as opposed to strict point-to-point timing control according only
to the EPG)?

I ask because I'd like to replace my Dgifusion PVR which doesn't do
series link and which has a habit of missing the beginning of programmes
which start earlier than billed (something thst the Sky+ doesn't do).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The latest versions of the digifusion PVRs have series link, but it is
apparently very buggy. The people on the AV Forums are very helpful on
this subject...

http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47

Sorry for the late reply, and many thanks for the info.

I decided to buy a Humax PVT (twin tuner, etc). A little bit pricey
compared to most PVRs on the market - though not as dear as a Topfield
- but working excellently over the last few weeks.

Freeview Playback rebranded Freeview Plus
 

On Aug 28, 11:53*am, JNugent wrote:
Ed wrote:
On 22 Jul, 17:32, JNugent wrote:
Ed wrote:
Missed this a week or two ago. Not that it means much!
http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/cgi-b...=254&h=260&f=3
Freeview is rebranding its Freeview Playback digital TV recorders as
Freeview Plus in a bid to capilatise on the success of its rival Sky
Plus. The Freeview Plus name will be rolled out across retail and
packaging over the next few months.
The move is part of an increased marketing effort to drive awareness
and sales of Freeview’s digital TV equipment. Marketing communications
director Rob Farmer says: “We are now upping our efforts and since
‘Plus’ has entered the vernacular in recent years, we think it makes
sense to reposition ourselves to take advantage of that.”
Sales of the recording boxes have been sluggish since launching in
April 2007, with around 330,000 sold. However, the basic Freeview box
is in more than 15 million homes and in March the company recorded
“all-time high” sales for 2007 with 9.7 million branded products sold.
More than a third of Sky's 8.8 million subscribers have a Sky Plus
box.
Freeview is owned by DTV Services, a joint venture between the BBC,
ITV, Channel 4, BSkyB and National Grid Wireless. It offers free-to-
air digital television, unlike the subscription services of Sky and
Virgin Media, the cable operator whose own digital recorder is branded
Virgin Plus. It also faces competition from Freesat, the subscription-
free satellite service from the BBC and ITV.
Uptake of digital TV recorders is growing 76% year on year, according
to figures from GfK, which Freeview hopes to accelerate further with
the rebrand and marketing campaign. Analogue video recorders will be
defunct following the switchover to digital, which is being rolled out
regionally up to 2012.
Quick question, if you're able to assist:

If a PVR is branded "Freeview Playback" (or "Freeview Plus"), does that
mean that it will have the facilities for:

(a) series link / season pass?

(b) some sort of broadcast signal control of how long the recording
lasts (as opposed to strict point-to-point timing control according only
to the EPG)?

I ask because I'd like to replace my Dgifusion PVR which doesn't do
series link and which has a habit of missing the beginning of programmes
which start earlier than billed (something thst the Sky+ doesn't do).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The latest versions of the digifusion PVRs have series link, but it is
apparently very buggy. The people on the AV Forums are very helpful on
this subject...

http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47

Sorry for the late reply, and many thanks for the info.

I decided to buy a Humax PVT (twin tuner, etc). A little bit pricey
compared to most PVRs on the market *- though not as dear as a Topfield
- but working excellently over the last few weeks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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