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28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Marky P" wrote in message ... My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you degauss it won't work in this case, trust me. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:20:13 +0100, Marky P
wrote: My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! You sure it's not an insurance fiddle? Accidentally fell over while decorating? Hmmm. Got accidental damage cover? Is it fixable? You could just squirting some NMN on the front to cover up the splodges.... No, it's f*cked. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Marky P" wrote in message ... My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. Now there's no excuse not to get a LCD or Plasma ... |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:06:02 GMT, "Netmask"
wrote: "Marky P" wrote in message .. . My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. Now there's no excuse not to get a LCD or Plasma ... He already has a Toshiba LCD telly in his lounge. This CRT was in (what was) my dad's lounge, and as my dad is now in a home, it doesn't really get used now. It will go down the tip this weekend. Marky P. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe sorted
at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as they are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Graham." wrote in message ... "Marky P" wrote in message ... My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you degauss it won't work in this case, trust me. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe sorted at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as they are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind. When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large chunks of foam rubber... Brian -- Tony Sayer |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Marky P" wrote in message ... My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. Quite a common fault on certain Sony models [AE1 chassis] was for the scan coils on the CRT neck to work loose, creating purity errors around the tube face, definitely worth geting checked out to see if they have been dislodged by the large mechanical shock, however it's not something I would recommend for the uninitiated, as large and dangerous voltages can still be present around this tube area, even after the set has been switched off and disconnected from the mains. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:20:13 +0100, Marky P wrote: My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! You sure it's not an insurance fiddle? Accidentally fell over while decorating? Hmmm. Got accidental damage cover? What it the replacement cost - not a lot! http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/conten...=DAE-DUB2850GB Is it fixable? You could just squirting some NMN on the front to cover up the splodges.... No, it's f*cked. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:38 +0100, "Ivan" wrote: Quite a common fault on certain Sony models [AE1 chassis] was for the scan coils on the CRT neck to work loose, creating purity errors around the tube face, definitely worth geting checked out to see if they have been dislodged by the large mechanical shock, however it's not something I would recommend for the uninitiated, as large and dangerous voltages can still be present around this tube area, even after the set has been switched off and disconnected from the mains. CRT's can retain a charge for days. Many years ago I worked in a TV factory. It was quite common to be zapped by a new CRT when it was removed from its box. The tube would still be charged from being tested in the CRT factory. After a bit of experience I made sure the final anode was flashed over to the tube coating when unpacking the box. Those were only small B&W tubes. Steve IMO the worst thing of all is the reservoir capacitor which can hold around 320 Volts [sometimes for over a day] fitted in many switch mode power supplies. The usual procedure is always to apply a bleed resistor across the terminals before attempting any kind of service.. but come on lads how many times have you forgotten!. only to find out the hard way by having chunks of burning flesh removed, accompanied by that sick and trembling feeling and in many cases a completely decimated power supply, all because the manufacturer thought to save a penny by not incorporating a bleed resistor into the design. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
In message , Graham.
wrote "Marky P" wrote in message .. . My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you degauss it won't work in this case, trust me. In that case percussion methods may fix it. Hit the side of the TV hard with the flat of your hand. If it requires de-gausing and switching off at the plug doesn't do it then get a large magnet (old speaker magnet). Suspend it from a loop of string. Spin the magnet. Whilst it is still spinning move it close to the screen and then slowly away from the screen. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:40:33 +0100, Alan
wrote: In message , Graham. wrote "Marky P" wrote in message . .. My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you degauss it won't work in this case, trust me. In that case percussion methods may fix it. Hit the side of the TV hard with the flat of your hand. If it requires de-gausing and switching off at the plug doesn't do it then get a large magnet (old speaker magnet). Suspend it from a loop of string. Spin the magnet. Whilst it is still spinning move it close to the screen and then slowly away from the screen. Yeah, I know how to de-gause as I did it at a telly repair place when I was 16 on work experience :-) Had a proper de-gauser then, but maybe I will try a speaker magnet. Marky P. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:38 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote: "Marky P" wrote in message .. . My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some decorating. It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash! Upon rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and purple on the other. He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to degause it but no effect. I thought maybe the shadow mask had distorted. Is it fixable? Marky P. Quite a common fault on certain Sony models [AE1 chassis] was for the scan coils on the CRT neck to work loose, creating purity errors around the tube face, definitely worth geting checked out to see if they have been dislodged by the large mechanical shock, however it's not something I would recommend for the uninitiated, as large and dangerous voltages can still be present around this tube area, even after the set has been switched off and disconnected from the mains. I learned no end when doing Work Experience for two weeks when I was 16. Including what happens when you snip the cable that goes to the tube without draining the power to the chassis first. I tried pulling it off the tube, but it was stuck, so I cut it & WALLOP! Got a reasonable jolt there! Marky P. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Alan" wrote in message ... In that case percussion methods may fix it. Hit the side of the TV hard with the flat of your hand. \ or a tambourine ? -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Brian Gaff scribeth thus Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe sorted at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as they are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind. When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large chunks of foam rubber... Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Doctor D" wrote in message ... "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Brian Gaff scribeth thus Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe sorted at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as they are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind. When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large chunks of foam rubber... Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate. With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:10:41 +0100, "Graham." wrote:
With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? Henry Wigfall Derek |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
In message , Graham.
writes Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes? -- Bill |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Graham." wrote in message ... With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? Mastercare? |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:53:27 +0100, Bill
wrote: In message , Graham. writes Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes? Ah Bill, you being from Bedford must remember Carlow Radio? That's where I did my 2 weeks work experience when I was 16. There telly repair place was in St. Johns (near Ampthill Road bridge). It's all being knocked down now :-( Marky P. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
In message , Marky P
writes On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:53:27 +0100, Bill wrote: Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes? Ah Bill, you being from Bedford must remember Carlow Radio? That's where I did my 2 weeks work experience when I was 16. There telly repair place was in St. Johns (near Ampthill Road bridge). It's all being knocked down now :-( The tower and a bit of a building at the base of it were still there this morning, otherwise it is all rubble now. The sign says it has already been sold for "development". Marky, talking of Granada, as we almost were, I wonder if you remember seeing the 2m dishes on the roof some years back?? I lowered a couple off there with ropes at the back of the building, darn near changed the spelling of Granada in the process!! -- Bill |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Graham." wrote in message
... With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? -- Graham. i.e. the TV you were carrying was worth more than the car - lol. Mike. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:55:04 +0100, Bill
wrote: In message , Marky P writes On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:53:27 +0100, Bill wrote: Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes? Ah Bill, you being from Bedford must remember Carlow Radio? That's where I did my 2 weeks work experience when I was 16. There telly repair place was in St. Johns (near Ampthill Road bridge). It's all being knocked down now :-( The tower and a bit of a building at the base of it were still there this morning, otherwise it is all rubble now. The sign says it has already been sold for "development". Marky, talking of Granada, as we almost were, I wonder if you remember seeing the 2m dishes on the roof some years back?? I lowered a couple off there with ropes at the back of the building, darn near changed the spelling of Granada in the process!! Think I just about remember them! Think I also remember a missing letter in the big red Granada sign on the building. Wasn't you, was it? Marky P. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
In message , Marky P
writes Think I just about remember them! Think I also remember a missing letter in the big red Granada sign on the building. Wasn't you, was it? Marky P. Twas about 10 - 15 years ago......... Not me, it was a close shave but they remained intact! -- Bill |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Bill" wrote in message ... In message , Graham. writes Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes? Bill, you've just won yourself a plastic Red Indian and a portrait of PT Barnum. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
In message , Graham.
writes "Bill" wrote in message ... In message , Graham. writes Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes? Bill, you've just won yourself a plastic Red Indian and a portrait of PT Barnum. Wow, not sure how to express my excitement, so I won't! The only reason I knew this was that my ex wife's ex husband worked there and she had an ex Granada Husky, it was a great vehicle to maintain. Not totally sure I would want one now as a co' car though. -- Bill |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes? Bill, you've just won yourself a plastic Red Indian and a portrait of PT Barnum. Wow, not sure how to express my excitement, so I won't! The only reason I knew this was that my ex wife's ex husband worked there and she had an ex Granada Husky, it was a great vehicle to maintain. Not totally sure I would want one now as a co' car though. Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain. Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum in much the same way as these days Company's display their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to customer service, anyway, we all thought it was ********. The plastic Red Indian was a promotional give-away by Red Arrow Services the forerunner of GTVR. Occasionally you would see one proudly displayed on a set you went to repair. As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did were still talking about them years later. Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete in the front to balance the load -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Graham." wrote in message ... As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did were still talking about them years later. Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete in the front to balance the load -- I'm pretty certain that back in the 1960s there existed quite a large TV rental company 'Atkinson'? in the Bristol area, their engineers drove Hillman Imp vans, can anyone else remember them.. I can't seem to find any reference on Google. |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
In message , Graham.
writes Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain. Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum in much the same way as these days Company's display their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to customer service, anyway, we all thought it was ********. The plastic Red Indian was a promotional give-away by Red Arrow Services the forerunner of GTVR. Occasionally you would see one proudly displayed on a set you went to repair. As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did were still talking about them years later. Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete in the front to balance the load Hi Graham, it rang a bell but I was not fully aware, sorry did not mean to offend though.:-) I can well understand the need for the concrete, all the weight was at the back even when unloaded. -- Bill |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Bill" wrote in message ... In message , Graham. writes Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain. Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum in much the same way as these days Company's display their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to customer service, anyway, we all thought it was ********. The plastic Red Indian was a promotional give-away by Red Arrow Services the forerunner of GTVR. Occasionally you would see one proudly displayed on a set you went to repair. As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did were still talking about them years later. Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete in the front to balance the load Hi Graham, it rang a bell but I was not fully aware, sorry did not mean to offend though.:-) I can well understand the need for the concrete, all the weight was at the back even when unloaded. Non taken Bill, I was being intentionally cryptic to see if anyone remembered. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large chunks of foam rubber... Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate. With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? No idea I'm afraid, but my list is worryingly similar. The gearbox went west on one of the Avengers during an overtaking move on the A40 - tricky. I worked for another company for a while who had Metro 1.3 vans - they only good thing about them is that they were faster than the Escort 1.1 vans we also had! When diesel engines became more common, a Maestro 2.0 Perkins was added. This sounded like it was going faster, but did have a fair bit more shove than anything we'd had before - and a five speed gearbox. I rack up my miles in a car these days, and rarely drive any of our vans. When I do it strikes me how quick and refined the current favourite Vauxhall 1.7 CDTi's are, and they're fitted with air conditioning. The current drivers don't have my muscles though as they have power steering! |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Doctor D" wrote in message et... When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large chunks of foam rubber... Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate. With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was Hillman Huskies but that was before my time. So the quiz question is, who did I work for? No idea I'm afraid, but my list is worryingly similar. The gearbox went west on one of the Avengers during an overtaking move on the A40 - tricky. I worked for another company for a while who had Metro 1.3 vans - they only good thing about them is that they were faster than the Escort 1.1 vans we also had! When diesel engines became more common, a Maestro 2.0 Perkins was added. This sounded like it was going faster, but did have a fair bit more shove than anything we'd had before - and a five speed gearbox. I rack up my miles in a car these days, and rarely drive any of our vans. When I do it strikes me how quick and refined the current favourite Vauxhall 1.7 CDTi's are, and they're fitted with air conditioning. The current drivers don't have my muscles though as they have power steering! I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think those Huskys even had a heater. My first Viva has a mechanical windscreen washer, I thought the electric one on the next one I got was great. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
28" CRT telly fallen on floor. Is it salvagable?
"Graham." wrote in message
... Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain. Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum in much the same way as these days Company's display their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to customer service, anyway, we all thought it was ********. Maybe it's because Granada thought, "There's a sucker born every minute." -- Max Demian |
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