Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

Marky P.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

In message , Marky P
wrote
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?


http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/triax_dish.htm
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

How can you need instructions?

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

Marky P.


Use the force Marky. It would be hard to get the assembly wrong.

The only thing that might throw you is it will appear to be missing one bolt
and one nut.

The manufacturer doesn't seem to think it's necessary to include / install
this additional nut & bolt, but I do so I always add one myself.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

In message , Bill Wright
wrote

"Marky P" wrote in message
.. .
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

How can you need instructions?


Marky just wants to know how the coax cable is connected to the dipole.
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:48:47 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


"Marky P" wrote in message
.. .
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

How can you need instructions?

Bill

I have never assembled a minidish (or any sat dish) before. Anyway,
after a tiny bit of perserverance, I've worked it out. It wasn't that
hard after all.

Marky P.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:15:29 +0100, "Carpy"
wrote:


"Marky P" wrote in message
.. .
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

Marky P.


Use the force Marky. It would be hard to get the assembly wrong.

The only thing that might throw you is it will appear to be missing one bolt
and one nut.

The manufacturer doesn't seem to think it's necessary to include / install
this additional nut & bolt, but I do so I always add one myself.






Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is. Is that right? Also, is a single output LNB ok for
Freesat HD? I heard Sky uses two feeds for HD, but what about
Freesat?

Marky P.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:15:29 +0100, "Carpy"
wrote:


"Marky P" wrote in message
. ..
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

Marky P.


Use the force Marky. It would be hard to get the assembly wrong.

The only thing that might throw you is it will appear to be missing one
bolt
and one nut.

The manufacturer doesn't seem to think it's necessary to include / install
this additional nut & bolt, but I do so I always add one myself.






Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is. Is that right? Also, is a single output LNB ok for
Freesat HD? I heard Sky uses two feeds for HD, but what about
Freesat?

Marky P.


Yes I believe that is the way the manufacturers intended. Just one bolt on
the elevation (vertical) adjustment and two on the horizontal adjustment.
Seems a bit silly to me as it tends to wobble quite a bit with just one
bolt.

You only need one LNB feed for high definition, but as with Sky HD the two
feeds are required because it's a twin tuner PVR. One feed for each tuner.

There aren't any twin tuner PVRs released for Freesat yet, so for your
normal HD box one LNB feed will be fine. Might be an idea to fit a twin /
quad and run an extra cable for when the Freesat PVRs do come out though.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

In message , Marky P
wrote

Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is. Is that right? Also, is a single output LNB ok for
Freesat HD? I heard Sky uses two feeds for HD, but what about
Freesat?


A single LNB is OK for the current crop of Freesat boxes SD and HD. A
dual will be required for any PVR, which may not be available until next
year. A quad may easier or cheaper to source than a dual. You may want
to fit a quad if you are having boxes in more than one room.

If you are thinking of buying a Freesat HD branded box be aware that the
Humax box has got serious lip sync problems on some HD broadcasts
(mainly when the audio track is in Digital Dolby 5.1 surround sound).
Bush, Goodmans and Grundig are all part of the Alba group and the their
SD boxes have the same electronics despite having different prices.
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

Marky P wrote:
I've got a zone 1 minidish to put up, but it needs assembling and I
have no instructions. Is there any website with assembly
instructions?

Easy.

1. Squirt wall surface with reasonable amount of 'No Nails' adhesive,
2. Stick and align dish for good picture,
3. Hold until set.

:-p

--
Adrian C

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Carpy" wrote in message
...
The manufacturer doesn't seem to think it's necessary to include / install
this additional nut & bolt, but I do so I always add one myself.

So do I.

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:15:29 +0100, "Carpy"
Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is.

What the chuff is that little spirit level for?

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Marky just wants to know how the coax cable is connected to the dipole.

Hold it in place with No More Nails.

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
I have never assembled a minidish (or any sat dish) before. Anyway,
after a tiny bit of perserverance, I've worked it out. It wasn't that
hard after all.

There you are then. This isn't the nanny state you know. Stand on your own
two feet, get on your bicycle, and you'll figure it out.

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:26:23 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Marky just wants to know how the coax cable is connected to the dipole.

Hold it in place with No More Nails.

Bill

You're giving away my Bodging secrets.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

Alan wrote:
In message , Marky P
wrote

Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is. Is that right? Also, is a single output LNB ok for
Freesat HD? I heard Sky uses two feeds for HD, but what about
Freesat?


A single LNB is OK for the current crop of Freesat boxes SD and HD. A
dual will be required for any PVR, which may not be available until next
year. A quad may easier or cheaper to source than a dual. You may want
to fit a quad if you are having boxes in more than one room.

If you are thinking of buying a Freesat HD branded box be aware that the
Humax box has got serious lip sync problems on some HD broadcasts
(mainly when the audio track is in Digital Dolby 5.1 surround sound).
Bush, Goodmans and Grundig are all part of the Alba group and the their
SD boxes have the same electronics despite having different prices.


It is reported elsewhere that Humax will be releasing a fix for their
lip sync problem within the next three weeks.

Instructions for assembling a zone 1 dish are at
http://www.internet-tools.co.uk/ebay/sat/6.pdf

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

Alan wrote:
In message , Marky P
wrote

Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is. Is that right? Also, is a single output LNB ok for
Freesat HD? I heard Sky uses two feeds for HD, but what about
Freesat?


A single LNB is OK for the current crop of Freesat boxes SD and HD. A
dual will be required for any PVR, which may not be available until next
year. A quad may easier or cheaper to source than a dual. You may want
to fit a quad if you are having boxes in more than one room.

If you are thinking of buying a Freesat HD branded box be aware that the
Humax box has got serious lip sync problems on some HD broadcasts
(mainly when the audio track is in Digital Dolby 5.1 surround sound).
Bush, Goodmans and Grundig are all part of the Alba group and the their
SD boxes have the same electronics despite having different prices.


It is reported elsewhere that Humax will be releasing a fix for their
lip sync problem within the next three weeks.

Instructions for assembling a zone 1 dish are at
http://www.internet-tools.co.uk/ebay/sat/6.pdf

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:10:55 +0100, Alan
wrote:

In message , Marky P
wrote

Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is. Is that right? Also, is a single output LNB ok for
Freesat HD? I heard Sky uses two feeds for HD, but what about
Freesat?


A single LNB is OK for the current crop of Freesat boxes SD and HD. A
dual will be required for any PVR, which may not be available until next
year. A quad may easier or cheaper to source than a dual. You may want
to fit a quad if you are having boxes in more than one room.

If you are thinking of buying a Freesat HD branded box be aware that the
Humax box has got serious lip sync problems on some HD broadcasts
(mainly when the audio track is in Digital Dolby 5.1 surround sound).
Bush, Goodmans and Grundig are all part of the Alba group and the their
SD boxes have the same electronics despite having different prices.

I'm getting the Panasonic TH-50PZ81B Freesat telly.

Marky P.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

In message , Dennis Becker
wrote
Alan wrote:

It is reported elsewhere that Humax will be releasing a fix for their
lip sync problem within the next three weeks.

That was reported on a web site that said there were no problems with
regional channels on Freesat and the Freesat PVR should be available in
the shops now.

There is nothing on the Humax site saying what will be fixed and when.


--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

Alan wrote:
In message , Dennis Becker
wrote
Alan wrote:

It is reported elsewhere that Humax will be releasing a fix for their
lip sync problem within the next three weeks.

That was reported on a web site that said there were no problems with
regional channels on Freesat and the Freesat PVR should be available in
the shops now.

There is nothing on the Humax site saying what will be fixed and when.



It wasn't reported by the website - it was provided by someone
contributing to the forum on the website. See also this from the digispy
forum regarding an update on the sync fix, and news of the PVR:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...6#post25596126
(post #4), and
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=842698&page=6 (post
# 142)

Humax are slow to put info on their site - info about the last software
update only appeared on their website a week or so AFTER the event.

Incidentally, the Freesat regional channels problem has been fixed.
Ditto the FoxSat "soft picture" issue.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

In message , Dennis Becker
wrote
Alan wrote:
In message , Dennis Becker
wrote
Alan wrote:

It is reported elsewhere that Humax will be releasing a fix for their
lip sync problem within the next three weeks.

That was reported on a web site that said there were no problems with
regional channels on Freesat and the Freesat PVR should be available in
the shops now.

There is nothing on the Humax site saying what will be fixed and when.



It wasn't reported by the website - it was provided by someone
contributing to the forum on the website. See also this from the
digispy forum regarding an update on the sync fix, and news of the PVR:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...6#post25596126
(post #4),

It's exactly the same information provided by someone linking to the web
site notorious for misinformation. The link given doesn't give any
information on the PVR.


and
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=842698&page=6 (post
# 142)

Again just someone speculating that there may be some news and as it
hasn't been posted it hasn't happened.


Humax are slow to put info on their site - info about the last software
update only appeared on their website a week or so AFTER the event.

Humax posted the information on the last OTA upgrade on the Friday
before the update on the Monday morning.


Incidentally, the Freesat regional channels problem has been fixed.

So does you box show all the available ITV regions?

Ditto the FoxSat "soft picture" issue.

The Humax representative stated that nothing had been done to fix the
poor picture quality. What they did do was to give more options on the
HDMI interface which for some people means that the TV does the
up-scaling rather than the Humax box.
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:15:29 +0100, "Carpy"
Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is.

What the chuff is that little spirit level for?

Bill


It doesn't work anyway. You think you've got it level but then touch the
spirit level and it moves around on the cheap bit of plastic, so you might
as well not bother with it. Rubbish.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Carpy" wrote in message
...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:15:29 +0100, "Carpy"
Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is.

What the chuff is that little spirit level for?

Bill


It doesn't work anyway. You think you've got it level but then touch the
spirit level and it moves around on the cheap bit of plastic, so you might
as well not bother with it. Rubbish.

But in any case it doesn't matter whether the dish is exactly level, as long
as you set polarization offset.

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:32:14 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


"Carpy" wrote in message
...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:15:29 +0100, "Carpy"
Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is.

What the chuff is that little spirit level for?

Bill


It doesn't work anyway. You think you've got it level but then touch the
spirit level and it moves around on the cheap bit of plastic, so you might
as well not bother with it. Rubbish.

But in any case it doesn't matter whether the dish is exactly level, as long
as you set polarization offset.

Bill

Is that the adjustable thing on the LNB labeled 1-5? If the dish is
dead level, what should it be set on?

Marky P.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:32:14 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


"Carpy" wrote in message
...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:15:29 +0100, "Carpy"
Yes, I noticed the missing bolt. What I've done is put the two bolts
on the wall fixing and the one bolt on the back of the dish where the
tilt gauge is.

What the chuff is that little spirit level for?

Bill


It doesn't work anyway. You think you've got it level but then touch the
spirit level and it moves around on the cheap bit of plastic, so you
might
as well not bother with it. Rubbish.

But in any case it doesn't matter whether the dish is exactly level, as
long
as you set polarization offset.

Bill

Is that the adjustable thing on the LNB labeled 1-5? If the dish is
dead level, what should it be set on?

Marky P.


Yes its the LNB skew. You really need to measure the bit error rate to set
this correctly.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Carpy" wrote in message
...
Is that the adjustable thing on the LNB labeled 1-5? If the dish is
dead level, what should it be set on?

Marky P.


Yes its the LNB skew. You really need to measure the bit error rate to set
this correctly.

But if you're in the middle of the UK it's going to be on '3'. The main
thing is that you fix it firmly in position using a product such as 'No More
Nails'.

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:19:35 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


"Carpy" wrote in message
...
Is that the adjustable thing on the LNB labeled 1-5? If the dish is
dead level, what should it be set on?

Marky P.


Yes its the LNB skew. You really need to measure the bit error rate to set
this correctly.

But if you're in the middle of the UK it's going to be on '3'. The main
thing is that you fix it firmly in position using a product such as 'No More
Nails'.

Bill

;-P

What about dish position on my property. I am surrounded by a lot of
trees. How high do the trees have to be before they interfere with
reception? My dish can't go very high (only above downstairs window)
unless the bloke living upstairs is OK with it.

Marky P.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:22:16 +0100, Marky P
wrote:

What about dish position on my property. I am surrounded by a lot of
trees. How high do the trees have to be before they interfere with
reception?

It depends how close they are. Remember all that 'boring' trigonometry at
school? Now you've found a practical use for it. Wish you'd paid more
attention?

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

Marky P wrote:

What about dish position on my property. I am surrounded by a lot of
trees. How high do the trees have to be before they interfere with
reception? My dish can't go very high (only above downstairs window)
unless the bloke living upstairs is OK with it.

I think the sats are 24-26° above the horizon in the UK.

--
Dave Farrance

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
Marky P wrote:
I think the sats are 24-26° above the horizon in the UK.

Marky, that's about THIS angle, where I'm pointing.

Bill

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:22:16 +0100, Marky P

wrote:

What about dish position on my property. I am surrounded by a lot of
trees. How high do the trees have to be before they interfere with
reception?

It depends how close they are. Remember all that 'boring' trigonometry at
school? Now you've found a practical use for it. Wish you'd paid more
attention?

Soccer Tow-er!

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:58:11 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:22:16 +0100, Marky P
wrote:

What about dish position on my property. I am surrounded by a lot of
trees. How high do the trees have to be before they interfere with
reception?

It depends how close they are. Remember all that 'boring' trigonometry at
school? Now you've found a practical use for it. Wish you'd paid more
attention?

Trigger what?

Marky P.

Assembling a Zone 1 sat dish
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:58:11 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:22:16 +0100, Marky P

wrote:

What about dish position on my property. I am surrounded by a lot of
trees. How high do the trees have to be before they interfere with
reception?

It depends how close they are. Remember all that 'boring' trigonometry at
school? Now you've found a practical use for it. Wish you'd paid more
attention?

Trigger what?

Something about a Native American woman on a hippopotamus IIRC


--
Graham.

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