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Bill Wright July 15th 08 01:57 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nicola Redwood wrote:
This may not be the right place to post this, but it's a start Am
looking into the above as we have a number of residential care homes
with 40+ residents in London and the South East and with digital
switchover in the not too distant future, we are looking for a viable
solution I know there are solutions for hotel chains and the like, but
is anyone able to point me in the right direction in terms of where to
start looking


In the majority of the London area, assuming your communal aerial works
ok
for analogue it will work ok for FreeView. So only the sets themselves
will have to be changed.


I'd disagree with that statement for 2 possible reasons.
1. The distribution system might have channel pass filters.
2. The system might be using 'translated' channels .
neither of these types of system would carry digital signals.


We're talking about little 40 bed places here, so I doubt if many of the
systems will proper input filters, in reality. The most likely 'head-end
will be a Taylor (etc) one in one out amp with enough gain to produce about
48dBmV analogue. They should have filters of course, but . . .
Likewise, they'll only use translated channels as a last resort because of
the cost, so I should think you'd only find them where you can see Crystal
Palace through the upstairs windows, and where it's closer than around ten
miles. Again, this is not as it should be, but there it is.

Bill



Bill Wright July 15th 08 01:59 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 

"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
...
...snip...
In the majority of the London area, assuming your communal aerial works
ok
for analogue it will work ok for FreeView. So only the sets themselves
will have to be changed.


I'd disagree with that statement for 2 possible reasons.
1. The distribution system might have channel pass filters.
2. The system might be using 'translated' channels .
neither of these types of system would carry digital signals.


The simplest way to see is to borrow a Freeview box, talk to a few of the
more helpful residents and plug it in in their room and try. Problem
might be getting them to give the box back afterwards!

Don't forget to mention the radio stations too. Often overlooked but you
never know how many residents might welcome the chance to listen to
"Around the Horn" again.


If there are CCTV cameras (for the door or carpark) it's a good idea to put
radio with the pictures. Old people appreciate having the local station on
tap without having the fiddle with the radio. It's such a low cost option:
just an £80 tuner from Richer Sounds.

Bill



Paul D.Smith July 15th 08 02:59 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 
....snip...

Likewise, they'll only use translated channels as a last resort because of
the cost, so I should think you'd only find them where you can see Crystal
Palace through the upstairs windows, and where it's closer than around ten
miles. Again, this is not as it should be, but there it is.


Why is this? Is it because at that distance, "any old bit of wire" will
pick up some signal and you don't want that interfering with the piped
signal which will, of course, be on the same channel?

Paul DS


charles July 15th 08 03:12 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 
In article ,
Paul D.Smith wrote:
...snip...


Likewise, they'll only use translated channels as a last resort because
of the cost, so I should think you'd only find them where you can see
Crystal Palace through the upstairs windows, and where it's closer
than around ten miles. Again, this is not as it should be, but there
it is.


Why is this? Is it because at that distance, "any old bit of wire" will
pick up some signal and you don't want that interfering with the piped
signal which will, of course, be on the same channel?



exactly so.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


Bill Wright July 15th 08 08:16 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 

"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
...
...snip...

Likewise, they'll only use translated channels as a last resort because
of the cost, so I should think you'd only find them where you can see
Crystal Palace through the upstairs windows, and where it's closer than
around ten miles. Again, this is not as it should be, but there it is.


Why is this? Is it because at that distance, "any old bit of wire" will
pick up some signal and you don't want that interfering with the piped
signal which will, of course, be on the same channel?


Yes. See
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/resources/pre-echo.pdf
(although it's down right now)

Bill



Dave Plowman (News) July 15th 08 08:33 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 
In article ,
charles wrote:
In the majority of the London area, assuming your communal aerial works ok
for analogue it will work ok for FreeView. So only the sets themselves
will have to be changed.


I'd disagree with that statement for 2 possible reasons.
1. The distribution system might have channel pass filters.


In the majority of the London area the FreeView channels would lie within
those pass filters.

2. The system might be using 'translated' channels .


I'd think that unlikely in most care homes. Or not in any of the ones I've
visited. Low cost is usually the aim.

neither of these types of system would carry digital signals.


Of course the obvious thing is to try a FreeView tuner first before
deciding to spend what is likely to be a large amount of money.

--
*Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Woody[_3_] July 15th 08 08:57 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 
"Steve Terry" wrote in message
...
"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
...
...snip...

snip
Don't forget to mention the radio stations too. Often overlooked but
you never know how many residents might welcome the chance to listen
to
"Around the Horn" again.
Paul DS.

BBC7 my favourite radio channel

Around the Horn.
Bona!

Steve Terry



Sorry Steve, Round the Horn - no A in it!

And what about ISIRTA, Navy Lark, etc etc.

They don't make 'em like that any more!


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



Woody[_3_] July 15th 08 09:00 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 
SOT and talking about Richers, anyone see that new cop fly-on-the-wall
series last week?

The scroats drove a 4x4 through the windows of Richers on Vicar Lane in
Leeds, dumped the 4x4 and tried putting large Tvs in the boot of what
looked like a Fiesta or Corsa.

One scroat picked up a 50" TV, slipped on the debris, and fell flat on
his back with the TV on top of him. Could get up, boys in blue felt his
collar. Brilliant!



--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



Adrian C July 15th 08 09:05 PM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 
Woody wrote:
One scroat picked up a 50" TV, slipped on the debris, and fell flat on
his back with the TV on top of him. Could get up, boys in blue felt his
collar. Brilliant!


This I've got to see. Was it on BBC by any chance? (iPlayer)

--
Adrian C

Woody[_3_] July 16th 08 11:02 AM

Digital TV for Residential Care Homes
 
"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
Woody wrote:
One scroat picked up a 50" TV, slipped on the debris, and fell flat
on his back with the TV on top of him. Could get up, boys in blue
felt his collar. Brilliant!


This I've got to see. Was it on BBC by any chance? (iPlayer)

--
Adrian C



I think it was, either Thursday or Friday and either 20-21h or 21-22h
and it was not far from the end. It was also about Ploice and CCTV which
was where the video came from.. Sorry can't be more exact.

--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com




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