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Taylor[_3_] July 4th 08 09:35 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
Headline of the Week Weak
Filed under: Headline of the Week

http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-conten...oo044__oPt.jpg

"Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming"

Are they serious???? CLICK HERE to read the article accompanying this
headline.


Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming

A gas used in the making of flat screen televisions, nitrogen
trifluoride (NF3), is being blamed for damaging the atmosphere and
accelerating global warming.

Almost half of the televisions sold around the globe so far this year
have been plasma or LCD TVs.

But this boom could be coming at a huge environmental cost.

The gas, widely used in the manufacture of flat screen TVs, is
estimated to be 17,000 times as powerful as carbon dioxide.

Ironically, NF3 is not covered by the Kyoto protocol as it was only
produced in tiny amounts when the treaty was signed in 1997.

Levels of this gas in the atmosphere have not been measured, but
scientists say it is a concern and are calling for it to be included
in any future emissions cutting agreement.

Professor Michael Prather from the University of California has
highlighted the issue in an article for the magazine New Scientist.

He has told ABC's The World Today program that output of the gas needs
to be measured.

"One of my titles for this paper was Going Below Kyoto's Radar. It's
the kind of gas that's made in huge amounts," he said.

"Not only is it not in the Kyoto Treaty but you don't even have to
report it. That's the part that worries me."

He estimates 4,000 tons of NF3 will be produced in 2008 and that
number is likely to double next year.

"We don't know what's emitted, but what they're producing every year
dwarfs these giant coal-fired power plants that are like the biggest
in the world," he said.

"And it dwarfs two of the Kyoto gases. So the real question we don't
know is how much is escaping and getting out."

Dr Paul Fraser is the chief research scientist at the CSIRO's marine
and atmospheric research centre, and an IPCC author.

He says without measuring the quantity of NF3 in the atmosphere it is
unclear what impact it will have on the climate.

"We haven't observed it in the atmosphere. It's probably there in very
low concentrations," he said.

"The key to whether it's a problem or not is how much is released to
the atmosphere."

Posted: July 4, 2008 at 2:48 pm


www.superheropornsquad.com

Chambers July 5th 08 12:03 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yq4zykxJNU



V for Vendicar July 5th 08 02:58 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 

"Chambers" wrote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMn_Ry3z6M&feature=related


An excellent link that I recommend everyone watch.

Thanx Chambers.



Taylor[_3_] July 5th 08 03:03 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
On Jul 4, 8:58*pm, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote:
"Chambers" wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMn_Ry3z6M&feature=related


An excellent link that I recommend everyone watch.

Thanx Chambers.


Nah. This is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5LJt8iGrg

Richard C. July 7th 08 08:07 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
"Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Jul 4, 8:58 pm, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote:
"Chambers" wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMn_Ry3z6M&feature=related


An excellent link that I recommend everyone watch.

Thanx Chambers.


Nah. This is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5LJt8iGrg

=============================
I agree!


RichA July 8th 08 02:38 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
On Jul 4, 3:35*pm, Taylor wrote:
Headline of the Week Weak
Filed under: Headline of the Week

http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-conten...host_goo044__o...

"Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming"

Are they serious???? CLICK HERE to read the article accompanying this
headline.

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming

A gas used in the making of flat screen televisions, nitrogen
trifluoride (NF3), is being blamed for damaging the atmosphere and
accelerating global warming.

Almost half of the televisions sold around the globe so far this year
have been plasma or LCD TVs.

But this boom could be coming at a huge environmental cost.

The gas, widely used in the manufacture of flat screen TVs, is
estimated to be 17,000 times as powerful as carbon dioxide.

Ironically, NF3 is not covered by the Kyoto protocol as it was only
produced in tiny amounts when the treaty was signed in 1997.

Levels of this gas in the atmosphere have not been measured, but
scientists say it is a concern and are calling for it to be included
in any future emissions cutting agreement.


They should take all the old CRTs in the dumps and break them over the
heads of all clueless envirofaggots.
BTW, is the Earth still cooling, like they claimed in 1975??

Yellowbeard July 8th 08 04:59 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
On Jul 4, 5:58*pm, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote:
"Chambers" wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMn_Ry3z6M&feature=related


An excellent link that I recommend everyone watch.

Thanx Chambers.


I know this is not a political discussion.... but

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4674

http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/OSGWD.htm

http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/

You... I mean We are not the cause, nor the cure.
Research and study all sides before making an intelligent decision.

my 2¢ YB

clouddreamer July 8th 08 05:13 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
Yellowbeard wrote:
On Jul 4, 5:58 pm, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote:
"Chambers" wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMn_Ry3z6M&feature=related

An excellent link that I recommend everyone watch.

Thanx Chambers.


I know this is not a political discussion.... but

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4674

http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/OSGWD.htm

http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/

You... I mean We are not the cause, nor the cure.
Research and study all sides before making an intelligent decision.

my 2¢ YB


Your 2 cents isn't worth much. Try:

www.ipcc.ch

The only site not paid for by the energy industry.

If you believe the bull**** on those the lame ass sites you listed
above, you deserve to find yourself under a few feet of water.

The simple question remains: WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG???

I'd rather we be wrong and end up with alternate energies, less
pollution and fewer wars over oil than be right and watch all life
slowly slip away.

Your choice.

..


--

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.


www.ipcc.ch/

kT July 8th 08 09:53 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:

Your 2 cents isn't worth much. Try:

www.ipcc.ch


The person below is quite possibly a seriously unbalanced individual.

Now see what you did? See what happens when you taunt the tards?

It's straight to bed with you, no dinner, and no allowance.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA:::::..:..
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA........ ..

YMMD!!!!!!111111oneeleven



Whata Fool July 8th 08 12:27 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
kT wrote:

Peter Muehlbauer wrote:

Your 2 cents isn't worth much. Try:

www.ipcc.ch


The person below is quite possibly a seriously unbalanced individual.

Now see what you did? See what happens when you taunt the tards?

It's straight to bed with you, no dinner, and no allowance.



Maybe you can explain why the "links" page there references
information on government sites of the US, Canada, Brazil, a couple
of others, and Iran, but NO European government sites?

That is odd, and maybe a reflection of something important.






V for Vendicar July 9th 08 08:54 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 

"Taylor"
Nah. This is better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHbhr...eature=related


You are right. Much better.

But not as good as this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHbhr...eature=related



V for Vendicar July 9th 08 08:55 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHbhr...eature=related


Richard C." wrote
I agree!


Great babe in this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHbhr...eature=related



V for Vendicar July 9th 08 08:59 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 

"RichA" wrote
They should take all the old CRTs in the dumps and break them over the
heads of all clueless envirofaggots.


Why? Corporatists built those CRT's and mindless apes like yourself
purchased them.

You do realize don't you that the front glass of those CRT's contain
substantial amounts of lead don't you?

Enviro's have been for decades calling for the recycling of those tubes
so that the lead doesn't get into your drinking water, and make you stupid.

Too late I guess. It appears that you area already stupid.


"RichA" wrote
BTW, is the Earth still cooling, like they claimed in 1975??


Lets check shall we?

ere are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs


NOPE. NO Cooling is evident.





V for Vendicar July 9th 08 09:03 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 

"Yellowbeard" wrote
We are not the cause, nor the cure.


Says the uneducated and uneducatable.


About ReutersWhite House in climate change "cover up"
Tue Jul 8, 2008 by SphereBy Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A leading U.S. Senate Democrat accused the Bush
administration on Tuesday of a "cover-up" aimed at stopping the
Environmental
Protection Agency from tackling greenhouse emissions.

"This cover-up is being directed from the White House and the office of the
vice
president," said Sen. Barbara Boxer, the California Democrat who chairs the
Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

At issue is a preliminary finding by the EPA last December that "greenhouse
gases may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public welfare," according
to
Jason Burnett, the agency's former associate deputy administrator who
appeared
at a news conference with Boxer.

Such a finding would be an early step toward government regulation aimed at
protecting public health.

Boxer said that unless EPA documents were released, it was likely that
within
the next two weeks her committee would try to subpoena the material. She did
not
know whether Republicans on the panel would block the effort.

Burnett, who resigned on June 9, told Boxer's committee the White House
tried
pressuring him to retract an e-mail in which he detailed the finding.
Burnett
said he refused.

Democrats say that since then, the EPA finding has been left "in limbo."
White House spokesman Tony Fratto said many federal agencies, departments
and
offices normally review any initiatives being developed to check for
"factual
inaccuracies" or "discordant" policies.

.....



V for Vendicar July 9th 08 09:05 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 

"Peter Muehlbauer" wrote
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA:::::..:..
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA........ ..


For RepubliKKKans, death is their only release from a life of self imposed
ignorance.


About ReutersWhite House in climate change "cover up"
Tue Jul 8, 2008 by SphereBy Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A leading U.S. Senate Democrat accused the Bush
administration on Tuesday of a "cover-up" aimed at stopping the
Environmental
Protection Agency from tackling greenhouse emissions.

"This cover-up is being directed from the White House and the office of the
vice
president," said Sen. Barbara Boxer, the California Democrat who chairs the
Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

At issue is a preliminary finding by the EPA last December that "greenhouse
gases may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public welfare," according
to
Jason Burnett, the agency's former associate deputy administrator who
appeared
at a news conference with Boxer.

Such a finding would be an early step toward government regulation aimed at
protecting public health.

Boxer said that unless EPA documents were released, it was likely that
within
the next two weeks her committee would try to subpoena the material. She did
not
know whether Republicans on the panel would block the effort.

Burnett, who resigned on June 9, told Boxer's committee the White House
tried
pressuring him to retract an e-mail in which he detailed the finding.
Burnett
said he refused.

Democrats say that since then, the EPA finding has been left "in limbo."
White House spokesman Tony Fratto said many federal agencies, departments
and
offices normally review any initiatives being developed to check for
"factual
inaccuracies" or "discordant" policies.



V for Vendicar July 9th 08 09:06 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 

"Whata Fool" wrote
Maybe you can explain why the "links" page there references
information on government sites of the US, Canada, Brazil, a couple
of others, and Iran, but NO European government sites?


Oh, that's because it's all part of the global KKKonspiracy to keep you
stupid.




Eric[_11_] July 9th 08 04:22 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
V for Vendicar wrote:
"RichA" wrote
They should take all the old CRTs in the dumps and break them over the
heads of all clueless envirofaggots.


Why? Corporatists built those CRT's and mindless apes like yourself
purchased them.

You do realize don't you that the front glass of those CRT's contain
substantial amounts of lead don't you?

Enviro's have been for decades calling for the recycling of those tubes
so that the lead doesn't get into your drinking water, and make you stupid.

Too late I guess. It appears that you area already stupid.


"RichA" wrote
BTW, is the Earth still cooling, like they claimed in 1975??


Lets check shall we?

ere are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs


NOPE. NO Cooling is evident.




Lead is present in all soils in 10 ppm to 50 ppm concentrations. Not to
worry, it's always been there..
Eric

clouddreamer[_2_] July 9th 08 05:23 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
V for Vendicar wrote:
"RichA" wrote
They should take all the old CRTs in the dumps and break them over the
heads of all clueless envirofaggots.


Why? Corporatists built those CRT's and mindless apes like yourself
purchased them.

You do realize don't you that the front glass of those CRT's contain
substantial amounts of lead don't you?

Enviro's have been for decades calling for the recycling of those tubes
so that the lead doesn't get into your drinking water, and make you stupid.

Too late I guess. It appears that you area already stupid.


"RichA" wrote
BTW, is the Earth still cooling, like they claimed in 1975??


Lets check shall we?

ere are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs


NOPE. NO Cooling is evident.



Nice post. Very visual. Good for people like RichA who has reading
comprehension difficulties.

They all mistake what a few scientists said in the 70s as PROOF that GW
is a hoax without even taking a closer look at what they said.

In the 70s, we approached CO2 concentrations of 300 ppm. For the past
million years (and likely for millions of years before that) the CO2
concentrations varied between 180 ppm (ice age) and 300 ppm (peak of
warming cycle).

As we approached 300 ppm in the 70s, scientists figured nature would
take its usual course and flip to the cooling cycle which would see an
ice age in about 50,000 years.

Problem is...the CO2 concentration continued to rise and they were
forced to accept the fact that spilling 30 BILLION tons of CO2 into the
atmosphere every year was indeed affecting atmospheric CO2 levels. (By
comparison, volcanoes spew up to only 200 MILLION tons of CO2). Since
CO2 remains in the atmosphere for up to 500 years, the effect is
cumulative.

Nature takes 1000 years to increase CO2 by 30 ppm (from volcanoes and
lightning sourced forest fires).

Mankind has done it in less than 20 years!!! And the rate of increase of
almost 3 ppm PER YEAR is accelerating.

All are indisputable facts.

I still shake my head at those that think we can't affect the global
environment...they seem to have forgotten how a much less used chemical
(CFCs) managed to cause significant damage the ozone layer. Of course,
stopping the use of CFCs wasn't a big deal with ready made replacements.
Stopping the use of Carbon source fuel is another thing altogether, and
of course, it has a huge industry behind it that doesn't want to
stop...and is willing to spend billions to serve Kool-aid to the
uneducated masses.

Think you can put together another graph for RichA so that he can
understand them?

;]


--

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.

clouddreamer[_2_] July 10th 08 07:12 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
clouddreamer wrote:
V for Vendicar wrote:
"RichA" wrote
They should take all the old CRTs in the dumps and break them over the
heads of all clueless envirofaggots.


Why? Corporatists built those CRT's and mindless apes like yourself
purchased them.

You do realize don't you that the front glass of those CRT's
contain substantial amounts of lead don't you?

Enviro's have been for decades calling for the recycling of those
tubes so that the lead doesn't get into your drinking water, and make
you stupid.

Too late I guess. It appears that you area already stupid.


"RichA" wrote
BTW, is the Earth still cooling, like they claimed in 1975??


Lets check shall we?

ere are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs


NOPE. NO Cooling is evident.



Nice post. Very visual. Good for people like RichA who has reading
comprehension difficulties.

They all mistake what a few scientists said in the 70s as PROOF that GW
is a hoax without even taking a closer look at what they said.

In the 70s, we approached CO2 concentrations of 300 ppm. For the past
million years (and likely for millions of years before that) the CO2
concentrations varied between 180 ppm (ice age) and 300 ppm (peak of
warming cycle).

As we approached 300 ppm in the 70s, scientists figured nature would
take its usual course and flip to the cooling cycle which would see an
ice age in about 50,000 years.

Problem is...the CO2 concentration continued to rise and they were
forced to accept the fact that spilling 30 BILLION tons of CO2 into the
atmosphere every year was indeed affecting atmospheric CO2 levels. (By
comparison, volcanoes spew up to only 200 MILLION tons of CO2). Since
CO2 remains in the atmosphere for up to 500 years, the effect is
cumulative.

Nature takes 1000 years to increase CO2 by 30 ppm (from volcanoes and
lightning sourced forest fires).

Mankind has done it in less than 20 years!!! And the rate of increase of
almost 3 ppm PER YEAR is accelerating.

All are indisputable facts.

I still shake my head at those that think we can't affect the global
environment...they seem to have forgotten how a much less used chemical
(CFCs) managed to cause significant damage the ozone layer. Of course,
stopping the use of CFCs wasn't a big deal with ready made replacements.
Stopping the use of Carbon source fuel is another thing altogether, and
of course, it has a huge industry behind it that doesn't want to
stop...and is willing to spend billions to serve Kool-aid to the
uneducated masses.



crickets from the naysayers.

As expected.

..

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We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.

Mutlley July 10th 08 11:01 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
clouddreamer wrote:

clouddreamer wrote:
V for Vendicar wrote:
"RichA" wrote
They should take all the old CRTs in the dumps and break them over the
heads of all clueless envirofaggots.

Why? Corporatists built those CRT's and mindless apes like yourself
purchased them.

You do realize don't you that the front glass of those CRT's
contain substantial amounts of lead don't you?

Enviro's have been for decades calling for the recycling of those
tubes so that the lead doesn't get into your drinking water, and make
you stupid.

Too late I guess. It appears that you area already stupid.


"RichA" wrote
BTW, is the Earth still cooling, like they claimed in 1975??

Lets check shall we?

ere are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs


NOPE. NO Cooling is evident.



Nice post. Very visual. Good for people like RichA who has reading
comprehension difficulties.

They all mistake what a few scientists said in the 70s as PROOF that GW
is a hoax without even taking a closer look at what they said.

In the 70s, we approached CO2 concentrations of 300 ppm. For the past
million years (and likely for millions of years before that) the CO2
concentrations varied between 180 ppm (ice age) and 300 ppm (peak of
warming cycle).

As we approached 300 ppm in the 70s, scientists figured nature would
take its usual course and flip to the cooling cycle which would see an
ice age in about 50,000 years.

Problem is...the CO2 concentration continued to rise and they were
forced to accept the fact that spilling 30 BILLION tons of CO2 into the
atmosphere every year was indeed affecting atmospheric CO2 levels. (By
comparison, volcanoes spew up to only 200 MILLION tons of CO2). Since
CO2 remains in the atmosphere for up to 500 years, the effect is
cumulative.

Nature takes 1000 years to increase CO2 by 30 ppm (from volcanoes and
lightning sourced forest fires).

Mankind has done it in less than 20 years!!! And the rate of increase of
almost 3 ppm PER YEAR is accelerating.

All are indisputable facts.

I still shake my head at those that think we can't affect the global
environment...they seem to have forgotten how a much less used chemical
(CFCs) managed to cause significant damage the ozone layer. Of course,
stopping the use of CFCs wasn't a big deal with ready made replacements.
Stopping the use of Carbon source fuel is another thing altogether, and
of course, it has a huge industry behind it that doesn't want to
stop...and is willing to spend billions to serve Kool-aid to the
uneducated masses.



crickets from the naysayers.

As expected.

..


Maybe that's the problem.

http://tinyurl.com/6kyr7l



Chambers July 11th 08 01:27 AM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,379801,00.html

"Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Jul 4, 8:58 pm, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote:
"Chambers" wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMn_Ry3z6M&feature=related


An excellent link that I recommend everyone watch.

Thanx Chambers.


Nah. This is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5LJt8iGrg



eBuyHD.com July 12th 08 10:57 PM

Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
 
Blah Blah Blah....what doesn't hurt the environment? What about the PC the
person that wrote the story on?

Keith
http://www.eBuyHD.com
http://www.HDPl.us


"Richard C." wrote in message
. ..
"Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Jul 4, 8:58 pm, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote:
"Chambers" wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMn_Ry3z6M&feature=related


An excellent link that I recommend everyone watch.

Thanx Chambers.


Nah. This is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5LJt8iGrg

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I agree!




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