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Bill Wright wrote:

Could you please tell me how much bandwidth it wasted on that one occasion,
and what the consequences of that wastage would be in real terms?

No.

I would have thought that if this sort of thing bothers you a better tactic
would be to wait until the offender had established a pattern of offending.

It doesn't really bother me - I wouldn't have noticed it if someone
else hadn't mentioned it. But I thought you would like to know that
you had made a mistake.

A one-off sounds like a glitch, which most likely will never be repeated.
Mentioning this after one incident sounds almost as if you enjoy pointing
such things out. I'm sure that isn't the case of course.

That's right.

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Depends if there is anything worth watching and how well the process is
explained.

Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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The Grundig Freesat box has had a software download to allow the viewing of
non-Freesat channels. However, you have to manually add channels by keying
in the multiplex details. Oh dear. Can't see Joe Public liking that.

Bill

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No its a bit silly posting html on here.

Brian

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"Jerry" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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The Grundig Freesat box has had a software download to
allow the viewing of non-Freesat channels. However, you
have to manually add channels by keying in the multiplex
details. Oh dear. Can't see Joe Public liking that.

So no different to the BSkyB box then?...

BTW, please don't post multi-part (HTML) messages to Usenet.

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He meant the mess below.
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Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
HTMLHEAD
META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"
META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3354" name=3DGENERATOR
STYLE/STYLE
/HEAD
BODY
DIV
PFONT size=3D2 The Grundig Freesat box has had a software =
download to=20
allow the viewing of non-Freesat channels. However, you have to manually =
add=20
channels by keying in the multiplex details. Oh dear. Can't see Joe =
Public=20
liking that./FONT/P
PFONT size=3D2Bill/FONT/P/DIV/BODY/HTML

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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BTW, please don't post multi-part (HTML) messages to Usenet.

I don't know what you're on about and I don't care.

Bill

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How does AD work on these boxes, and is it hard to set up that facility?

Brian

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:
The Grundig Freesat box has had a software download to allow the viewing
of non-Freesat channels. However, you have to manually add channels by
keying in the multiplex details. Oh dear. Can't see Joe Public liking
that.

I installed the Bush (clone of Grunding and Goodman's) HD Freesat box last
night.

Unpacked it, and connected up to a Sony 40 inch Bravia. Initially using
just a Scart lead. Didn't bother with the supplied Scart lead, it looks
useless, and has the thinnest cable I've ever seen on one.
This box is replacing a Sky box, that already had a nice chunky cable, so
I swapped to that one.

Switched on, and a Freesat Welcome screen appeared, along with a signal
strength bar graph. This read 90% in my case.
It then proceed to download software (not sure if this was box firmware,
or EPG/transponder data ?) The progress bar leapt to the 5% position then
stayed there for 3-4 mins. I'd almost given up hope, then it started
moving. Took about 10 mins to reach 100% After that the box said it would
reboot after 3 mins. This it did, and then it started on a transponder
scan. That took another 10 mins. Finally it started displaying pictures.
They were hideous, covered in patterning and clock pulses, and in PAL. I
opened the menus, but could find no mention of RGB. I then connected an
HDMI cable. The SD channels then looked clean, but still washed out, and
not a patch on the Sky box's versions. I assume it has a very cheap
upconverter. I switched to BBC HD (the whole reason for the box) and the
image was fine. As good as both a Humax HDI-2000, and Sky HD box. I was
expecting it to boot up from applying power like a Sky box, a couple of
mins quietly booting, then ready for action. This box, and presumably the
other Freesat boxes, operate quite differently.
What happens when a new channel comes along. Will it auto magically add it
(a lá Sky), or do you need to faff about Freeview style ?

Conclusion: Don't use it on the Scart; not that you would, because there's
no point buying the box unless you have an HD capable display. For
watching the BBC HD channel via HDMI it's fine. No HDMI cable is supplied,
I used a 4 quid one from CPC. Not seen any ITV HD stuff on it yet, and
their HD schedule seems to be some sort of state secret !

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"Jerry" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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BTW, please don't post multi-part (HTML) messages to Usenet.

I don't know what you're on about and I don't care.


do though...

Go on then, tell teacher. There were kids like you at school. No-one liked
them either.


Bill

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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I installed the Bush (clone of Grunding and Goodman's) HD Freesat box last
night.

Unpacked it, and connected up to a Sony 40 inch Bravia. Initially using
just a Scart lead. Didn't bother with the supplied Scart lead, it looks
useless, and has the thinnest cable I've ever seen on one.

Yes, it's remarkable. I don't think it has any wires inside it. It's just a
tube.

Bill

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"Jerry" wrote in message
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Could you please tell me how much bandwidth it wasted on that one
occasion, and what the consequences of that wastage would be in real
terms?

You doubled the size of your message, now think what that means if 1,000
people posted multi-part messages, now think what it would mean is 10,000
people did it, what about 50,000 did - this means that many servers will
start dropping older messages sooner than they otherwise should due to the
extra storage space the multi-part messages use (some servers might only
hold a few days-worth of 'archive' messages), the other problem is that
some servers will delete multi-part messages 'on sight' meaning that your
message might not be seen by all.... The other problem with multi-part
messages is that it's very easy for the sender or a Trojan to hide a virus
within the HTML (just as can happen with web pages) and a onLoad script.

Like I said, 'Could you please tell me how much bandwidth it wasted on that
one
occasion'. The point is that this happened once. If it happened every
time it would be different. Your immediate response to one incident
suggests to me that you enjoy pointing these things out, because no-one
else would have bothered. That's sad, very sad. Are a traffic warden
during the day?

and
you don't usually do it, so presumably you made a mistake.
I would have thought that if this sort of thing bothers you a better
tactic would be to wait until the offender had established a pattern of
offending. A one-off sounds like a glitch, which most likely will never
be repeated. Mentioning this after one incident sounds almost as if you
enjoy pointing such things out. I'm sure that isn't the case of course.


It was a polite pointing out what you had done,
It wasn't polite, it came across as snotty and patronising. Sometimes the
word 'please' when used like that can be counter-productive.

your "I don't care"
response was what generated the heat and not the original 'offence', all
you needed to say was "Sorry"...
I'll be damned! So every time you inadvertently clip the kerb do you write
an apologetic letter to the chief constable. Grow up!

Bill

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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No its a bit silly posting html on here.

Brian

Top posting is very annoying, I find. Please don't do it any more.

Bill

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
I installed the Bush (clone of Grunding and Goodman's) HD Freesat box
last night.

Unpacked it, and connected up to a Sony 40 inch Bravia. Initially using
just a Scart lead. Didn't bother with the supplied Scart lead, it looks
useless, and has the thinnest cable I've ever seen on one.

Yes, it's remarkable. I don't think it has any wires inside it. It's just
a tube.

Perhaps it's a waveguide ;-)

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