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Marky P July 4th 08 12:57 AM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:29:07 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Marky P
scribeth thus
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:04:44 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Paul D.Smith
scribeth thus
"Ivan" wrote in message
...
Marky P wrote:
|| Would this be an unstable set up:
|| || Blake SR18 element group b
|| Triax 10 element group C/D
|| 10'x2" mast
|| 12" cradle bracket
|| || I've just had a word with my friend about the replacement of his
|| aerial down in Devon and he thought a higher mast would be a good
|| idea, due to the flats being built in the line of fire. But I would
|| be dubious about using a 10' mast with a 12" bracket. Changing to an
|| 18" bracket would be loads of hassle (and extra expense) and I don't
|| think it's worth it. What d'ya reckon? Current mast is 6'x2".
||
Freesat?

|| Marky P.

Freesat is an interesting thought as the expense of your components must be
starting to get up to the cost of a Freesat setup. Or even, perhaps, the
Sky FTA offering i.e. getting someone else to put the dish up for him ;-).
I did hear of cheap deals from Currys/Dixons. If you make sure the dish is
in a good place, and he gets one of the multi-head LNBs, then next time
you're down there you can wire up some extra cables for him and he gets 4
output (2 for PVR plus two bedrooms perhaps?).

Paul DS


Theres no fun in that;).

Waaay too sensible....


Freesat is an option for the main telly, but still need Freeview for
the other 3 tellies.

Marky P.

Why not use a multi output LNB and simply convert the whole to
satellite?..


I'll suggest it, but it's all extra boxes. I had to install all the
bedroom tellies on wall bracket and put all wiring through the walls
so nothing would show. It was a right bugger.

Marky P.


Marky P July 4th 08 12:59 AM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:48:28 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:

Steve Terry wrote:
|| "Ivan" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Ivan wrote:
||||| Andy Wade wrote:
||||||| tony sayer wrote:
|||||||
||||||||| Freesat is an option for the main telly, but still need
||||||||| Freeview for the other 3 tellies.
|||||||
|||||||| Why not use a multi output LNB and simply convert the whole to
|||||||| satellite?..
|||||||
||||||| If "main telly" includes a PVR he'll need a 5-output LNB. I've
||||||| heard talk of 6- or 8-o/p LNBs, but do they actually exist? 4
||||||| is the usual limit, with a multiswitch being needed after that
||||||| - or a real move to the single-cable ('SCR') technology.
|||||||
|||||
||||| Technomate TM8
|||||
|||
||| Or the Wistron Sky Octo LNB
|||
|||
http://www.brittany-satellites.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=211
|||
|||
|| 75quid!
|| Another dish and quad LNB = 30quid
|| But it is a solution if you aren't allowed to install another dish.
||

IMO it wouldn't be right for others on this newsgroup [who after all have to
try and make a living] for me to quote a trade price, however IIRC from
previous posts long past I believe that Marky P. had some kind of access to
a trade outlet?.. if so then I think he won't be too unhappy with the price.


|| Steve Terry


I have no access to a trade outlet :-(. Just a humble amateur, me.

Marky P.


Bill Wright July 4th 08 01:35 AM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:48:28 +0100, "Ivan"
I have no access to a trade outlet :-(. Just a humble amateur, me.


Marky, most full time installers are amateurs, humble or otherwise. If you
walk into any trade outlet and offer to pay cash you will have no problem.

Bill



chunkyoldcortina July 4th 08 05:37 PM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 
Marky P wrote:

I have no access to a trade outlet :-(. Just a humble amateur, me.


Try Solutions Group in Northampton, just off the Bedford Road in Brackmills.

Marky P July 4th 08 05:49 PM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:37:08 +0100, chunkyoldcortina
wrote:

Marky P wrote:

I have no access to a trade outlet :-(. Just a humble amateur, me.


Try Solutions Group in Northampton, just off the Bedford Road in Brackmills.


OK. Next time I'm up that way I'll pop in.

Marky P.


Bill Wright July 4th 08 08:11 PM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 

"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:37:08 +0100, chunkyoldcortina
wrote:

Marky P wrote:

I have no access to a trade outlet :-(. Just a humble amateur, me.


Try Solutions Group in Northampton, just off the Bedford Road in
Brackmills.


OK. Next time I'm up that way I'll pop in.


Get your face tattooed and smoke a fag and they'll think you're a proper
aerial man.

Bill



Ivan July 6th 08 05:45 PM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 
Alan Pemberton wrote:
|| Bill Wright wrote:
||
||| Marky, most full time installers are amateurs, humble or otherwise.
||| If you walk into any trade outlet and offer to pay cash you will
||| have no problem.
||
|| I once walked into Blakes and offered cash for one of their famous
|| log periodics but they wanted twice the price that CPC do them for.
|| It's the same with the plumbing trade counter down the road,
|| compared with Screwfix prices for the same thing. They can all smell
|| real tradesmen a mile off.
||

Although Alan even genuine tradesmen dealing with trade outlets can
sometimes find the same item being sold in supermarkets cheaper than they
can buy it at trade price.. long gone are the days of retail price
maintenance when one was 'guaranteed' of profit margin of 33.3%.

|| --
|| Alan Pemberton
|| Sheffield, South Yorkshire, England
|| To e-mail me directly, please visit
|| http://www.pembers.freeserve.co.uk/index.html#Mail-me


Andy Burns[_4_] July 6th 08 06:06 PM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 
On 06/07/2008 16:19, Alan Pemberton wrote:

I once walked into Blakes and offered cash


I had no problems with Blakes a couple of years back; I turned up and
they sold me LP/FM/DAB aerials, bracket, mast, amp and various outlet
plates, all at very favourable prices compared to the catalogue/website.

Bill Wright July 6th 08 10:02 PM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 

"Ivan" wrote in message
...
Alan Pemberton wrote:
|| Bill Wright wrote:
||
||| Marky, most full time installers are amateurs, humble or otherwise.
||| If you walk into any trade outlet and offer to pay cash you will
||| have no problem.
||
|| I once walked into Blakes and offered cash for one of their famous
|| log periodics but they wanted twice the price that CPC do them for.
|| It's the same with the plumbing trade counter down the road,
|| compared with Screwfix prices for the same thing. They can all smell
|| real tradesmen a mile off.
||

Although Alan even genuine tradesmen dealing with trade outlets can
sometimes find the same item being sold in supermarkets cheaper than they
can buy it at trade price.. long gone are the days of retail price
maintenance when one was 'guaranteed' of profit margin of 33.3%.


Many years ago the situation arose that the small distribution amplifiers we
were fond of using became available at Wickes, at prices not dissimiliar to
the trade price. Now the problem is, if you install a dist. amp you are
automatically giving 12 month's on-site warranty (a free call out and
replacement) so my policy was to mark amps up by a huge margin. I actually
had customers ringing me complaining that the amp I had sold them was
available at much lower cost at Wickes. Now the fact is, Joe Public has
never understood about costs and overheads, and with some of them it's a
waste of breath telling them. They like to think that if they pay £150 for
an aerial installation the aerial cost £140 and the installation cost a
tenner (instead of the other way round in the case of some installers).

Ok, well Labgear (for it was they) are entitled to trade just how they like.
They'd figured that they could make more money by selling via Wickes than by
not doing so, and good luck to them. It's the same with filling stations
that hold up the diesel queue by selling lottery tickets at the same till.
It's their decision, but there are lots of other filling stations so if I'm
delayed by lottery customers I never, ever, return. Fair enough I think. So
I spoke to Labgear and suggested that they make some simple cosmetic changes
and took the Labgear name off the amps that they sold to Wickes. But no. So
that's when I stopped using Labgear amps. Haven't used one for 25 years now.
Must have cost them a fair bit, because I know I wasn't the only one.

Incidentally, when Antiference used to sell via Tandy they rebadged the
product and altered it slightly, which was fine.

Bill



Bill Wright July 6th 08 10:04 PM

10ft mast on 12" bracket
 

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
et...
On 06/07/2008 16:19, Alan Pemberton wrote:

I once walked into Blakes and offered cash


I had no problems with Blakes a couple of years back; I turned up and they
sold me LP/FM/DAB aerials, bracket, mast, amp and various outlet plates,
all at very favourable prices compared to the catalogue/website.


I've used wholesalers when I've been short of gear in places away from base,
and I've never had the slightest problem. On one occasion someone asked,
"Are you in the trade?" and I said, "Well as it happens yes but I'm paying
by card anyway" and that was that.

Bill




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