What's so great about this?
 

My brother-in-law just got a Samsung LCD a few days ago. Since I don't
own a HDTV set I rushed over today to view the picture quality.

To my disbelief, I was disappointed at what I saw. Everything looked
pixelated or blurred. Especially the graphics. I noticed it even more
with motion (we were watching a gymnastic program). We viewed the same
program on the HD channel. The HD channel looked better, but not perfect
and the background looked grainy. "Whats so great about this?" I thought
to myself.

I didn't say anything at first, but after a couple of minutes my B-I-L
expressed the same concerns. I suggested maybe the standard programming
looks worse on HDTV since its a lesser quality and maybe he needs to
tinker with the setup panel. I did notice the closer you were, the worse
it looked. I told him he should watch some DVD's. That way he can judge
if its the cable signal or not.

Overall the colors looked great and the images life like, but the
pixelation was too much of a distraction for me. Based on what I saw
today, my expectations was far from reality. This may sound crazy, but
right now, I think I like my tube better. I'll wait till 2009.

George

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What's so great about this?
 

Jer wrote:
wrote:

My brother-in-law just got a Samsung LCD a few days ago. Since I don't
own a HDTV set I rushed over today to view the picture quality.

To my disbelief, I was disappointed at what I saw. Everything looked
pixelated or blurred. Especially the graphics. I noticed it even more
with motion (we were watching a gymnastic program). We viewed the same
program on the HD channel. The HD channel looked better, but not
perfect and the background looked grainy. "Whats so great about this?"
I thought to myself.

I didn't say anything at first, but after a couple of minutes my B-I-L
expressed the same concerns. I suggested maybe the standard
programming looks worse on HDTV since its a lesser quality and maybe
he needs to tinker with the setup panel. I did notice the closer you
were, the worse it looked. I told him he should watch some DVD's. That
way he can judge if its the cable signal or not.

Overall the colors looked great and the images life like, but the
pixelation was too much of a distraction for me. Based on what I saw
today, my expectations was far from reality. This may sound crazy,
but right now, I think I like my tube better. I'll wait till 2009.

George




I noticed you didn't say anything about how the new TV was set up, nor
what the TV's capabilities were. To understand what the issue was,
knowing this information is a must.

If an SD program has actual flaws embedded in the source, watching it
upconverted on an HD display will often enhance the visibility those
flaws. OTOH, an HD display that's capable of displaying SD material
properly, and has been set up to actually do it, can offer significant
improvements.

I guess the places that sell them don't know how to set them up, because
the ones I've seen in showrooms have generally been pretty awful.

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On Jun 22, 6:46*pm, wrote:
My brother-in-law just got a Samsung LCD a few days ago. Since I
don't
own a HDTV set I rushed over today to view the picture quality.

To my disbelief, I was disappointed at what I saw. Everything
looked
pixelated or blurred. Especially the graphics. I noticed it even
more
with motion (we were watching a gymnastic program). We viewed the
same
program on the HD channel. The HD channel looked better, but not
perfect
and the background looked grainy. "Whats so great about this?" I
thought
to myself.

I didn't say anything at first, but after a couple of minutes my B-
I-L
expressed the same concerns. I suggested maybe the standard
programming
looks worse on HDTV since its a lesser quality and maybe he needs
to
tinker with the setup panel. I did notice the closer you were, the
worse
it looked. I told him he should watch some DVD's. That way he can
judge
if its the cable signal or not.

Overall the colors looked great and the images life like, but the
pixelation was too much of a distraction for me. Based on what I
saw
today, my expectations was far from reality. *This may sound crazy,
but
right now, I think I like my tube better. I'll wait till 2009.

George

I'd say it's a safe bet you were seeing analog TV. Digital on it's
worst day _might _ get as bad as you say but the most reliable test is
a good old antenna watching one of the alphabet networks during prime
time. Your TV should reprt the channel as x-1 and NOT x-0. The dash 0
channels are the original analog. The dash 1 or higher are digital
and _might_ be HD content - but not necessarily. Reality shows are
rarely HD while the comedy and cop shows are nearly always HD when
primetime on ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and PBS (a little less on PBS). You
WILL find up-converted SD on the HD channels but when you see it,
you'll know.

G²

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Jer wrote:
wrote:
My brother-in-law just got a Samsung LCD a few days ago. Since I don't
own a HDTV set I rushed over today to view the picture quality.

To my disbelief, I was disappointed at what I saw. Everything looked
pixelated or blurred. Especially the graphics. I noticed it even more
with motion (we were watching a gymnastic program). We viewed the same
program on the HD channel. The HD channel looked better, but not
perfect and the background looked grainy. "Whats so great about this?"
I thought to myself.

I didn't say anything at first, but after a couple of minutes my B-I-L
expressed the same concerns. I suggested maybe the standard
programming looks worse on HDTV since its a lesser quality and maybe
he needs to tinker with the setup panel. I did notice the closer you
were, the worse it looked. I told him he should watch some DVD's. That
way he can judge if its the cable signal or not.

Overall the colors looked great and the images life like, but the
pixelation was too much of a distraction for me. Based on what I saw
today, my expectations was far from reality. This may sound crazy,
but right now, I think I like my tube better. I'll wait till 2009.

George




I noticed you didn't say anything about how the new TV was set up, nor
what the TV's capabilities were. To understand what the issue was,
knowing this information is a must.

If an SD program has actual flaws embedded in the source, watching it
upconverted on an HD display will often enhance the visibility those
flaws. OTOH, an HD display that's capable of displaying SD material
properly, and has been set up to actually do it, can offer significant
improvements.


Not to sure on the set up. He mentioned he's using the HDMI interface
and the set up panel has HDMI selected as the source. I think he has
1080i(saw that flash somewhere on the screen). I've read 1080i tends to
show motion blue.

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In article [email protected] writes:

Not to sure on the set up. He mentioned he's using the HDMI interface
and the set up panel has HDMI selected as the source. I think he has
1080i(saw that flash somewhere on the screen). I've read 1080i tends to
show motion blue.

Was this mini-dish satellite?

If you were watching a good over the air signal, that really was HD,
it would look *lots* better than you described. Even reasonable standard
definition looks better than you described.

Also, there is no tendancy for 1080i (or any other standard) to "show
motion blue" (or any other color).


Alan

What's so great about this?
 

(Alan) wrote:
In article [email protected] writes:

Not to sure on the set up. He mentioned he's using the HDMI interface
and the set up panel has HDMI selected as the source. I think he has
1080i(saw that flash somewhere on the screen). I've read 1080i tends to
show motion blue.

Was this mini-dish satellite?

If you were watching a good over the air signal, that really was HD,
it would look *lots* better than you described. Even reasonable standard
definition looks better than you described.

Also, there is no tendancy for 1080i (or any other standard) to "show
motion blue" (or any other color).

Alan

The picture could look really bad with the proper connections
if the settings are incorrect. Most companies have the picture
and contrast settings up to 100% out of the box. They should be
somewhere around 40 - 60% depending on your tastes and the tv.

Chip

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My brother-in-law just got a Samsung LCD a few days ago. Since I don't own
a HDTV set I rushed over today to view the picture quality.

To my disbelief, I was disappointed at what I saw. Everything looked
pixelated or blurred. Especially the graphics. I noticed it even more with
motion (we were watching a gymnastic program). We viewed the same program
on the HD channel. The HD channel looked better, but not perfect and the
background looked grainy. "Whats so great about this?" I thought to
myself.

I didn't say anything at first, but after a couple of minutes my B-I-L
expressed the same concerns. I suggested maybe the standard programming
looks worse on HDTV since its a lesser quality and maybe he needs to
tinker with the setup panel. I did notice the closer you were, the worse
it looked. I told him he should watch some DVD's. That way he can judge if
its the cable signal or not.

Overall the colors looked great and the images life like, but the
pixelation was too much of a distraction for me. Based on what I saw
today, my expectations was far from reality. This may sound crazy, but
right now, I think I like my tube better. I'll wait till 2009.

Some TV's do a better job than others upconverting an SD signal. Some SD
pictures which appear OK on a standard set look abominable on an HD set.

As to the HD signal, it's possible you were watching an SD source
upconverted at the source to HD. I've seen a lot of stuff, particularly on
the local Fox channel, that may fill the screen like HD, but obviously
isn't.

R / John

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On 6/22/2008 9:46 PM, wrote:
My brother-in-law just got a Samsung LCD a few days ago. Since I don't
own a HDTV set I rushed over today to view the picture quality.

To my disbelief, I was disappointed at what I saw. Everything looked
pixelated or blurred. Especially the graphics. I noticed it even more
with motion (we were watching a gymnastic program). We viewed the same
program on the HD channel. The HD channel looked better, but not perfect
and the background looked grainy. "Whats so great about this?" I thought
to myself.

I didn't say anything at first, but after a couple of minutes my B-I-L
expressed the same concerns. I suggested maybe the standard programming
looks worse on HDTV since its a lesser quality and maybe he needs to
tinker with the setup panel. I did notice the closer you were, the worse
it looked. I told him he should watch some DVD's. That way he can judge
if its the cable signal or not.

Overall the colors looked great and the images life like, but the
pixelation was too much of a distraction for me. Based on what I saw
today, my expectations was far from reality. This may sound crazy, but
right now, I think I like my tube better. I'll wait till 2009.

George


You should be blown away by the quality of an HD broadcast. We've had
our Samsung plasma for about 18 months and I still am amazed by the
quality of the picture and frequently still comment on it. As others
have said, it sounds like the program you were watching was not an
actual HD broadcast.

If your brother-in-law has cable, and a cable box, then he should be
able to receive the old analog broadcasts, and for many stations a
digital version of the station. BUT, a digital version does NOT mean
HD. All HD broadcast are digital, but not all digital broadcasts are
HD. In fact most digital broadcasts are not HD.

By now your brother-in-law has probably, and hopefully, resolved the
problem and is enthralled with his new purchase.

Bernie