Blu-Ray -so far
 

I've been watching Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I noticed that the company
distributing the disks seems to be important. Warner Brothers disks seem
good, with occasional graininess from the original film. A Sony disc I
watched last night was awesome in picture clarity. My gripe is with
Lionsgate. Movies from Lionsgate, like "Total Recall" and "Lord of War,"
seem to have a consistent high graininess to them. This does not appear to
be a digital artifact. My wild guess is that Lionsgate is deliberately
adding noise to films as a sneaky form of copy protection.

Blu-Ray -so far
 

"Cubit" wrote in message
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I've been watching Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I noticed that the
company distributing the disks seems to be important. Warner Brothers
disks seem good, with occasional graininess from the original film. A
Sony disc I watched last night was awesome in picture clarity. My gripe
is with Lionsgate. Movies from Lionsgate, like "Total Recall" and "Lord
of War," seem to have a consistent high graininess to them. This does not
appear to be a digital artifact. My wild guess is that Lionsgate is
deliberately adding noise to films as a sneaky form of copy protection.







you seem to assume that film grain is some kind of fault.
mny times it isnt - the director deliberately chooses certain types of film
with a certain grain.
also, your last comment makes no sense - how will grain prevent a film being
copied?



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Blu-Ray -so far
 

In article , The dog from that film
you saw wrote:

mny times it isnt - the director deliberately chooses certain types of film
with a certain grain.

Lam grain is okay. Or forst grain.
But if'n your gonna add a color, I like yeller more than grain.

Blu-Ray -so far
 

Cubit wrote:

I've been watching Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I noticed that the company
distributing the disks seems to be important. Warner Brothers disks seem
good, with occasional graininess from the original film. A Sony disc I
watched last night was awesome in picture clarity. My gripe is with
Lionsgate. Movies from Lionsgate, like "Total Recall" and "Lord of War,"
seem to have a consistent high graininess to them. This does not appear to
be a digital artifact. My wild guess is that Lionsgate is deliberately
adding noise to films as a sneaky form of copy protection.

If you prefer not to see all the details, like grain, from the original
film - here's what you'd like: VHS!

Blu-Ray -so far
 

"Bob (but not THAT Bob)" wrote in message
...
Cubit wrote:

I've been watching Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I noticed that the
company
distributing the disks seems to be important. Warner Brothers disks seem
good, with occasional graininess from the original film. A Sony disc I
watched last night was awesome in picture clarity. My gripe is with
Lionsgate. Movies from Lionsgate, like "Total Recall" and "Lord of War,"
seem to have a consistent high graininess to them. This does not appear
to
be a digital artifact. My wild guess is that Lionsgate is deliberately
adding noise to films as a sneaky form of copy protection.

If you prefer not to see all the details, like grain, from the original
film - here's what you'd like: VHS!

I seem to have failed to be clear. For example, last night I watched "The
Shining." The WB disk film grain was observable, but very very fine,
despite the film age. I have no complaints about the quality of the real
very fine film grain. The other company's disks have a COARSE profound
obnoxious grain effect, which I believe is not actual film grain. Rather,
since it is so much worse than real film grain, I suspect the distributor is
reducing picture quality to a point that a bootlegger would not use the
Blu-Ray disk as a source. By adding noise to the film that is similar to,
but much worse than film grain, they may be trying to avoid complaints.
Thus, a sneaky form of copy protection at the expense of paying customers.

Blu-Ray -so far
 

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:45:09 -0700 Cubit wrote:
|
| "Bob (but not THAT Bob)" wrote in message
| ...
| Cubit wrote:
|
| I've been watching Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I noticed that the
| company
| distributing the disks seems to be important. Warner Brothers disks seem
| good, with occasional graininess from the original film. A Sony disc I
| watched last night was awesome in picture clarity. My gripe is with
| Lionsgate. Movies from Lionsgate, like "Total Recall" and "Lord of War,"
| seem to have a consistent high graininess to them. This does not appear
| to
| be a digital artifact. My wild guess is that Lionsgate is deliberately
| adding noise to films as a sneaky form of copy protection.
|
| If you prefer not to see all the details, like grain, from the original
| film - here's what you'd like: VHS!
|
| I seem to have failed to be clear. For example, last night I watched "The
| Shining." The WB disk film grain was observable, but very very fine,
| despite the film age. I have no complaints about the quality of the real
| very fine film grain. The other company's disks have a COARSE profound
| obnoxious grain effect, which I believe is not actual film grain. Rather,
| since it is so much worse than real film grain, I suspect the distributor is
| reducing picture quality to a point that a bootlegger would not use the
| Blu-Ray disk as a source. By adding noise to the film that is similar to,
| but much worse than film grain, they may be trying to avoid complaints.
| Thus, a sneaky form of copy protection at the expense of paying customers.

If a bootlegger uses the blu-ray source, via the analog hole, he'll be adding
a tiny bit of electrical noise grain. But if this intended film-like grain
is really at a high level, the bootlegger won't be making it much worse. And
with everything being digital past the analog hold rip-off, it won't get any
worse than that in duplication and distribution (including P2P file sharing).

Multi-generation VHS bootleg distribution sold well enough, despite the high
level of noise, to get the attention of the movie industry. The imperfections
of ripping off digital copies today pale in comparison. All the industry is
preventing is absolute pixel-perfect copies from being bootlegged. And most
of the bootleg market cares far more about price than perfection.

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