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I am a newbie looking for a group where I can discuss problems I have
with a JVC DR-MX1S dvd/vhs/hdd.

Am I in the right place or can anyone recommend a better group?

George

furnessvale wrote:
I am a newbie looking for a group where I can discuss problems I have
with a JVC DR-MX1S dvd/vhs/hdd.

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OK. Pull up a chair and sit down. What drink would you like?

Lay on us the problem ;-)

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Adrian C

On Jun 2, 7:26ï¿½pm, Adrian C wrote:
furnessvale wrote:
I am a newbie looking for a group where I can discuss problems I have
with a JVC DR-MX1S dvd/vhs/hdd.

uk.tech.tv.video.pvr added

OK. Pull up a chair and sit down. What drink would you like?

Lay on us the problem ;-)

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Adrian C

Thanks. I have had the beast for three years. It is the only dvd
recorder I have ever owned so I have no yardstick to judge it by. I
have had problems such as locking up effectively forcing me to swich
off and reboot but I can live with that.

What really annoys me is how fussy the machine is as to what blank
media I use. I have never tried cheapo discs but even branded discs
give me problems. I had a good run with Datawrite classic grey then
my local shop stopped stocking them so I tried Datawrite red. No
Chance! About one in three worked. Maxell gold about 50%. TDK not
too bad about 90%. Latest batch is HP 1 worked so far out of 8.

So my question is.....is this normal behaviour or should I give up and
invest in another machine?

George

If this has occurred from day 1, I'd have sent it back and changed it by
now. If its a new creeping problem then it might just be aging.

Bit worrying about the locking up as it sounds like there may be some kind
of underlying problem anyway.

This is of course generic comments as I've never used the model. I'm sure
someone here might know its reputation or otherwise.

All I can say is that about three years ago dvd recorders had a bad
reputation for being unreliable. This according to my friends who seem to
have problems with them no matter who made them. Dic bad seeming to be a
common one, followed by an error has occurred. Sounds almost like Windows!

Brian

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"furnessvale" wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 7:26?pm, Adrian C wrote:
furnessvale wrote:
I am a newbie looking for a group where I can discuss problems I have
with a JVC DR-MX1S dvd/vhs/hdd.

uk.tech.tv.video.pvr added

OK. Pull up a chair and sit down. What drink would you like?

Lay on us the problem ;-)

--
Adrian C

Thanks. I have had the beast for three years. It is the only dvd
recorder I have ever owned so I have no yardstick to judge it by. I
have had problems such as locking up effectively forcing me to swich
off and reboot but I can live with that.

What really annoys me is how fussy the machine is as to what blank
media I use. I have never tried cheapo discs but even branded discs
give me problems. I had a good run with Datawrite classic grey then
my local shop stopped stocking them so I tried Datawrite red. No
Chance! About one in three worked. Maxell gold about 50%. TDK not
too bad about 90%. Latest batch is HP 1 worked so far out of 8.

So my question is.....is this normal behaviour or should I give up and
invest in another machine?

George

furnessvale wrote:

Thanks. I have had the beast for three years. It is the only dvd
recorder I have ever owned so I have no yardstick to judge it by. I
have had problems such as locking up effectively forcing me to swich
off and reboot but I can live with that.

What really annoys me is how fussy the machine is as to what blank
media I use. I have never tried cheapo discs but even branded discs
give me problems. I had a good run with Datawrite classic grey then
my local shop stopped stocking them so I tried Datawrite red. No
Chance! About one in three worked. Maxell gold about 50%. TDK not
too bad about 90%. Latest batch is HP 1 worked so far out of 8.

So my question is.....is this normal behaviour or should I give up and
invest in another machine?

George

None of the four Panasonic recorders in this house have given any problems
so far. I think if I were in your position I would buy another machine,
though without VHS for the amount it would be used here a seperate machine
would be preferable.
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On Jun 3, 10:31ï¿½am, "Adrian" wrote:
None of the four Panasonic recorders in this house have given any problems
so far. I think if I were in your position I would buy another machine,
though without VHS for the amount it would be used here a seperate machine
would be preferable.

Thanks for that. As I say, I have no experience of other machines to
make a comparison. I will only buy a dvd/hdd machine as the VHS side
has fulfilled its function in transferring my collection to dvd. The
JVC has no hard drive problems so the wife can record the soaps etc
for later viewing.

George

"furnessvale" wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 7:26?pm, Adrian C wrote:
furnessvale wrote:
I am a newbie looking for a group where I can discuss problems I have
with a JVC DR-MX1S dvd/vhs/hdd.

uk.tech.tv.video.pvr added

OK. Pull up a chair and sit down. What drink would you like?

Lay on us the problem ;-)

--
Adrian C

Thanks. I have had the beast for three years. It is the only dvd
recorder I have ever owned so I have no yardstick to judge it by. I
have had problems such as locking up effectively forcing me to swich
off and reboot but I can live with that.

What really annoys me is how fussy the machine is as to what blank
media I use. I have never tried cheapo discs but even branded discs
give me problems. I had a good run with Datawrite classic grey then
my local shop stopped stocking them so I tried Datawrite red. No
Chance! About one in three worked. Maxell gold about 50%. TDK not
too bad about 90%. Latest batch is HP 1 worked so far out of 8.

So my question is.....is this normal behaviour or should I give up and
invest in another machine?

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Sorry not an answer to your questions but SVP usually do packs of mixed
branded disks that might help you find the kind that is most suited to your
player.
One of my relatives had a similar problem in that their recorder was
extremely fussy about what disk it used but once they found the best disks
they had no more problems.

I'm sure they found the cheapo ones to be best for them!!

"Steven Campbell" wrote in message
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All burners require a firmware update to increase their compatibility
with the ever expanding range of blank media. The problem you
are having is common across all recorders.
There are 3 ways to upgrade the firmware of a burner:
You could do an online search for that model and discern if possible
to download the firmware update and burn to a disc.
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/most_pop...ist_10600.html
If it is possible with that JVC, once firmware is burned to a DVD,
place in JVC and then it is a R/C handset hack that triggers the
firmware install, you will have to search for such hacks, start he
http://www.videohelp.com/
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks
http://www.xdiv.com/remotes/
http://www.dvdhacks.co.uk/

Or open your JVC machine, remove the burner and identify
the exact model (It may well be a tsst.corp model?) then install
it as slave to an IDE channel on your PC, download the firmware
and update the burner via the downloaded software, then remove
and reinstall it in the JVC machine.
Most specialist dealers can do this for you., even PC Worlds main
store in Londons Tottenham Court Road will do it for a charge.
Updating firmware is not as daunting as it sounds.

Or return it to a JVC service centre. This site has the link and
phone number, you maybe lucky in asmuch that they may
like Panny and Samsung, they may just send you an upgrade CD
and the Remote control hack? (If applicable to that specific machine)
http://www.ictvuk.com/Home_Page/Cons...facturers.html

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On Jun 3, 12:24ï¿½pm, "ded" wrote:
"Steven Campbell" wrote in message

et

All burners require a firmware update to increase their compatibility
with the ever expanding range of blank media. The problem you
are having is common across all recorders.
There are 3 ways to upgrade the firmware of a burner:
You could do an online search for that model and discern if possible
to download the firmware update and burn to a disc.http://www.eserviceinfo..com/most_po...ist_10600.html
If it is possible with that JVC, once firmware is burned to a DVD,
place in JVC and then it is a R/C handset hack that triggers the
firmware install, you will have to search for such hacks, start hehttp://www.videohelp.com/http://www....vdhacks.co.uk/

Or open your JVC machine, remove the burner and identify
the exact model (It may well be a tsst.corp model?) then install
it as slave to an IDE channel on your PC, download the firmware
and update the burner via the downloaded software, then remove
and reinstall it in the JVC machine.
Most specialist dealers can do this for you., even PC Worlds main
store in Londons Tottenham Court Road will do it for a charge.
Updating firmware is not as daunting as it sounds.

Or return it to a JVC service centre. This site has the link and
phone number, you maybe lucky in asmuch that they may
like Panny and Samsung, they may just send you an upgrade CD
and the Remote control hack? (If applicable to that specific machine)http://www.ictvuk.com/Home_Page/Cons...acturers/manuf...

...

Wow! Not being a techie that sounds er.....interesting. Do you think
I will be OK if I get hold of old Datawrite classic greys and stick
with them?

George

"furnessvale" wrote in message
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On Jun 3, 12:24?pm, "ded" wrote:
"Steven Campbell" wrote in message

et

I've only done a brief search and bizarrely I found this on a Russian
site - it is the innards of your JVC combo.
http://www.thg.ru/video/200507081/im..._dr_mx1s_4.jpg

It has a standard DVD-RAM drive (top left of picture)
I can only discern that it is a LG unit, I can't discern the model
number.
It is a straightforward SATA connection (Not IDE).
The 2 connections into the rear panel are the SATA and
power supply, both are standard slot and plug (no soldering)
you just plug in or pull out - simple!
The audio connections, both analog and digital are not made
so digital data transmission is via SATA only.

To upgrade the firmware yourself requires that your PC has
a MoBo with a SATA connection, if it has. Open the JVC and
on the DVD-RAM unit on the white strip on top will be the
model number. Note it exactly and then goto this LG site:
http://gb.lgservice.com/gcsc/b2c/hpi...command.SwlCmd
With the exact model number scroll down to go through the
pages to find the firmware update.
Once located, select to download to a folder (Desktop, My Documents etc)
There will be specific instructions supplied on how to upgrade.
It's usually is a downloaded folder is created, in which will be
the firmware and an upgrade tool.

To upgrade.
You will require a one metre SATA interconnect. £4 from PC World.
Disconnect both the JVC and your PC from the mains power.
Open both.
You do not need to remove the DVD-RAM drive from the JVC.
Just UNplug the SATA connection from the DVD-RAM drive and
connect the the SATA interconnect and then plug that into the PC
SATA connection.
Power on the JVC
Power on your PC
Windows will detect the connected JVC DVD-RAM and install it.
Now locate the folder downloaded from the LG site and open.
Follow the instructions you also downloaded - this usually only
involves double-clicking on a setup executable in the folder
which will instigate the upgrade.
Once complete. Close all windows
Open Device Manager and uninstall the DVD-RAM from Windows
Shut down PC and power off the JVC, disconnect both from the
mains power supply.
Remove the SATA interconnect from PC's MoBo.
Remove the SATA interconnect from the DVD-RAM drive.
Now reconnect the JVC's SATA to the DVD-RAM (You just
plug it in - simple)
Replace covers to both PC and JVC
Power on.
Your JVC will now record to all currently available blank media.

If your PC dosen't have a SATA connection or if you find it
a bit too daunting (It isn't). Then still open the JVC, note the
exact model number of the DVD-RAM drive.
GoTo the LG site in the above link, download the firmware and
copy to a CD-R.
Take your JVC and the CD-R either to a friend or colleaque who
is PC savvy, or to a PC repair shop and they will connect and
install, it is a 5 minute job, expect to pay approx £15 - £20.

If you are thinking of buying a new DVD recorder, the exact
same blank media compatibility issues apply to whatever Brand.
When a Product is released, it will have the updates as of that
date, the product then gets boxed, shipped and sits on shelves
in warehouses for months, during which the Chinese and Taiwanese
produce ever increasing new blank media, they in turn supply the
hardware OEM's with the script and they release the firmware
updates, but they have to be installed.
Anyone else reading having blank media compatibility issues,
the above applies. But I've worked on both Panny's and Samsung
that had tsst.corp drives (Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology =TSST)
In both cases, the UK service centres supplied a CD upgrade disk
and a remote control hack, if you've got compatibility issues, open
your DVD recorder, if it is a tsst.corp drive, phone the service
centre and ask for an upgrade disc! It's simple!