Catastophic failure on ITV
 

As I write this ITV 2, 3 and 4 have been on a static caption for more than
half an hour on both Sky and Freeview. ITV 1 is ok on Sky and Analogue, but
it's a black screen on Freeview, and I know my reception of the ITV Freeview
multiplex is ok because I'm getting Channel 4 on Freeview fine (tx Crystal
Palace).

I guess they've had a catastophic failure of the playout system for ITV 2, 3
and 4, but I wonder why it has killed off ITV 1 on Freeview? Must be rather
worrying for ITV's advertisers. I wonder if anyone still works at ITV's
Network centre at 2 in the morning, or have they all been "released"?

ITV 2+1, and 3+1 are still working, so I guess the system that creates the 1
hour delay is unaffected.

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Stephen wrote:
As I write this ITV 2, 3 and 4 have been on a static caption for more than
half an hour on both Sky and Freeview. ITV 1 is ok on Sky and Analogue, but
it's a black screen on Freeview, and I know my reception of the ITV Freeview
multiplex is ok because I'm getting Channel 4 on Freeview fine (tx Crystal
Palace).

I guess they've had a catastophic failure of the playout system for ITV 2, 3
and 4, but I wonder why it has killed off ITV 1 on Freeview? Must be rather
worrying for ITV's advertisers. I wonder if anyone still works at ITV's
Network centre at 2 in the morning, or have they all been "released"?

ITV 2+1, and 3+1 are still working, so I guess the system that creates the 1
hour delay is unaffected.

Blow by blow account of it all he-

http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewt...=asc&sta rt=0

I don't think anything particularly important or compelling was lost.

--
Mark
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 02:48:30 +0100, "Stephen"
wrote:

As I write this ITV 2, 3 and 4 have been on a static caption for more than
half an hour on both Sky and Freeview. ITV 1 is ok on Sky and Analogue, but
it's a black screen on Freeview, and I know my reception of the ITV Freeview
multiplex is ok because I'm getting Channel 4 on Freeview fine (tx Crystal
Palace).

I guess they've had a catastophic failure of the playout system for ITV 2, 3
and 4, but I wonder why it has killed off ITV 1 on Freeview? Must be rather
worrying for ITV's advertisers. I wonder if anyone still works at ITV's
Network centre at 2 in the morning, or have they all been "released"?

ITV 2+1, and 3+1 are still working, so I guess the system that creates the 1
hour delay is unaffected.

Bit of an exaggeration to describe no ITV as a catastrophe. I can't
see Bob Geldof organising a global appeal :-)

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In message , Mark Carver
wrote

I don't think anything particularly important or compelling was lost.

No, only episode 2 of Pushing Daisies :)

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

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I don't think anything particularly important or compelling was lost.

No, only episode 2 of Pushing Daisies :)

Available online at itv.com i think after tonights ep.

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"Dave Healey" wrote in message
...
I don't think anything particularly important or compelling was
lost.

No, only episode 2 of Pushing Daisies :)

Available online at itv.com i think after tonights ep.


Whilst the whole series will be repeated later in the year anyway,
according to ITV, personally I can't see any reason why they couldn't
just drop one of the football matches, ITV must really want to
decimate their audience base...

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
snip

Blow by blow account of it all he-

http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewt...=asc&sta rt=0


Blimy, looking at that lot (and the time message stamps) all I can say
is that there were an awful lot of (non) ITV broadcast engineers on
their night-shifts last night or an awful lot of utterly sad
insomniacs around!

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Stephen wrote:
As I write this ITV 2, 3 and 4 have been on a static caption for more than
half an hour on both Sky and Freeview. ITV 1 is ok on Sky and Analogue, but
it's a black screen on Freeview, and I know my reception of the ITV Freeview
multiplex is ok because I'm getting Channel 4 on Freeview fine (tx Crystal
Palace).

I guess they've had a catastophic failure of the playout system for ITV 2, 3
and 4, but I wonder why it has killed off ITV 1 on Freeview? Must be rather
worrying for ITV's advertisers. I wonder if anyone still works at ITV's
Network centre at 2 in the morning, or have they all been "released"?

There'll be no-one at ITV Network Centre at the time in the morning as
it's just offices in Grays Inn Road. Although all ITVs transmission
staff have been 'released' as it's been sold off to Thomson/Technicolour.

Are there (m)any adverts at that time of night?

ITV 2+1, and 3+1 are still working, so I guess the system that creates the 1
hour delay is unaffected.

But it does mean that everyone can watch whatever happened as hour later!

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Stuart wrote:

There'll be no-one at ITV Network Centre at the time in the morning as
it's just offices in Grays Inn Road. Although all ITVs transmission
staff have been 'released' as it's been sold off to Thomson/Technicolour.

The move to Chiswick must be imminent ? Perhaps last night's mess was the
migration of services going horribly wrong ?

--
Mark
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 14:19:49 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

The move to Chiswick must be imminent ? Perhaps last night's mess was the
migration of services going horribly wrong ?

Straightforward power failure - no more, no less.

(Of the same type that the BBC have had three or four times this
decade.) :-)

--

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"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 May 2008 14:19:49 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

The move to Chiswick must be imminent ? Perhaps last night's mess
was the
migration of services going horribly wrong ?

Straightforward power failure - no more, no less.

(Of the same type that the BBC have had three or four times this
decade.) :-)


You mean their stand-by generator caught fire as well as the grid
failing?...

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:Jerry: wrote:
"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message

Straightforward power failure - no more, no less.

(Of the same type that the BBC have had three or four times this
decade.) :-)


You mean their stand-by generator caught fire as well as the grid
failing?...

It seems from the DS posting made today, that the UPS let out a nice fat spike.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
sniP

It seems from the DS posting made today, that the UPS let out a nice
fat spike.


There is some what of an irony in that, of all the devices to *cause*
an outage?! :~(

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Somehow, I can't show any surprise ...

I used to be IT Support Person in residence for a large business
office. One day, an engineer arrives at reception and I am summoned.
He flashes his credentials, and says he has come to test the UPS.

I take him up to the Equipment Room (you know, where the air is nice
and cool), and he busies himself over the UPS while I do one or two
chores like change the backup tapes. Eventually he says: "Yes! That
all seems to be in order. It just remains to test it!"

"Ok!", says I, expecting him to attach some sort of electrical load.
After a pause pregnant with significance, he adds: "Er, you have to do
that!"

"Right ho!", I say, unusually slow at sensing danger, "What's to be
done?"

"You throw this switch here!", he says, pointing to the electricity
supply to all the cabinets.

Aghast now, I make frantic phone calls trying to find someone a little
more senior! "Surely this can't be right?", I query, but it was.

So I throws the switch, and there's a collective groan from all the
cabinets as all the disks spin down, and instant pandemonium out in
the office.

The first thing I notice when I examine the UPS for myself is that the
casing of the battery is split! I write a stern email to my superiors
about the stupidity of such a test taking place during office hours,
and suggesting that in failing to spot the split battery, the engineer
was incompetent.

I am not popular for a while, but none of us are ever asked to repeat
such a test again!

On Sat, 31 May 2008 19:45:42 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

It seems from the DS posting made today, that the UPS let out a nice fat spike.

Catastophic failure on ITV
 

In article ,
:Jerry: wrote:

It seems from the DS posting made today, that the UPS let out a nice
fat spike.

There is some what of an irony in that, of all the devices to *cause*
an outage?! :~(

In 30 years of using computers, I have experienced innumerable
computer outages because of UPSes being installed, removed, serviced,
or exploding, and have never once had my computer stay up, or even
shut down in an orderly manner, when the mains was cut.

-- Richard
--
In the selection of the two characters immediately succeeding the numeral 9,
consideration shall be given to their replacement by the graphics 10 and 11 to
facilitate the adoption of the code in the sterling monetary area. (X3.4-1963)

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On May 31, 8:48 am, Mark Carver wrote:


Blow by blow account of it all he-

http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewt...stdays=0&posto...

I don't think anything particularly important or compelling was lost.

Another one of those ancient 1970's fault caption generators kicked in
at the Crystal Palace analogue tx, judging from this screenshot:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/953...naloguebm4.jpg

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wrote in message
...
On May 31, 8:48 am, Mark Carver wrote:

Blow by blow account of it all he-

http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewt...stdays=0&posto...

I don't think anything particularly important or compelling was lost.

Another one of those ancient 1970's fault caption generators kicked in
at the Crystal Palace analogue tx, judging from this screenshot:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/953...naloguebm4.jpg

For a while there was a newer looking fault caption on ITV2+1 on Freeview.
It said "There is a Fault. Normal service will be resumed as soon as
possible." in yellow letters on a light blue background (electronically
generated), accompanied by a woman's voice reading out the same words. The
voice sounded a bit over compressed or narrow bandwidth. It was different
from ITV2+1 on satellite and unlike any of the other the fault captions.

ITV2+1 on Freeview is an oddity, being on a National Grid Wireless multiplex
instead of an ITV one, so could this have been a Red Bee fault caption from
BBC White City perhaps?

Catastophic failure on ITV
 

ITV2+1 on Freeview is an oddity, being on a National Grid Wireless
multiplex instead of an ITV one, so could this have been a Red Bee fault
caption from BBC White City perhaps?

No, it goes no where near there.

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"dB" wrote in message
...
ITV2+1 on Freeview is an oddity, being on a National Grid Wireless
multiplex instead of an ITV one, so could this have been a Red Bee fault
caption from BBC White City perhaps?

No, it goes no where near there.

I thought that Freeview multiplexes 1, B, C, D were put together by
BBC/RedBee coding & multiplexing. ITV2+1 is on mux C or D (don't remember
which), so if it doesn't go there I wonder where it does go?

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On Sat, 31 May 2008 20:04:57 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
sniP

It seems from the DS posting made today, that the UPS let out a nice
fat spike.


There is some what of an irony in that, of all the devices to *cause*
an outage?! :~(

My broadcasting experience is that we'd have had fewer bits of broken
kit and fewer outages if we hadn't had any UPSs at all!

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.

--
Z

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In uk.tech.broadcast, on Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:23:10, Zathras wrote:

My broadcasting experience is that we'd have had fewer bits of broken
kit and fewer outages if we hadn't had any UPSs at all!

Agreed!

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.

Outstanding idea.

--
Jim Crowther

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"Zathras" wrote in message
...
snip

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.


I assume by "kinetic batteries" you mean 'motor-flywheel-generators',
if so, how is this implemented?

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On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:23:10 +0100, Zathras wrote:

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.

Hopefully the generator comes up before the kinetics spin down...

--
Cheers
Dave.

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Java Jive wrote:
Somehow, I can't show any surprise ...

snips long scary story

Our critical servers are all fitted with dual PSUs. The idea is that
one is fed from the UPS, and one straight from the mains. Lose the
mains, and the UPS kicks in. Lose the UPS, and they run straight from
the mains. (we're moving machine rooms soon, and as I now "own" some of
the servers, I'll check that they really are like that in their new home)

Repeat after me: "No Single Point Of Failure" :)

Andy

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On 01/06/2008 23:02, Andy Champ wrote:

Our critical servers are all fitted with dual PSUs. The idea is that
one is fed from the UPS, and one straight from the mains. Lose the
mains, and the UPS kicks in. Lose the UPS, and they run straight from
the mains.

Early morning generator test occurs, you loose mains for a few seconds,
no problem UPS cuts in, generator starts, that extra server you added
recently increases the inrush current as half of your PSUs come back on
line at once, mains MCB trips, current drawn by the other half of your
PSUs is double normal, workload increases on the servers as people start
logging on for the day, servers draw that critical few extra amps, a
circuit breaker on the UPS reaches its limit and it trips, it goes dark
and quiet ...

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On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:21:28 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Early morning generator test occurs, you loose mains for a few seconds,
no problem UPS cuts in, generator starts, that extra server you added
recently increases the inrush current as half of your PSUs come back on
line at once, mains MCB trips,

AWOOGA, AWOOGA, blooming great alarm goes off triggered by detecting
voltage across the MCB(s)...

--
Cheers
Dave.

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"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
:Jerry: wrote:

It seems from the DS posting made today, that the UPS let out a nice
fat spike.

There is some what of an irony in that, of all the devices to *cause*
an outage?! :~(

In 30 years of using computers, I have experienced innumerable
computer outages because of UPSes being installed, removed, serviced,
or exploding, and have never once had my computer stay up, or even
shut down in an orderly manner, when the mains was cut.



Heading up to the millenium I was responsible for maintaining a large test
facility and we were pulled in 4 weekends in a row to test the power backup
facilities. First weekend, after the power had been cut, the electricians
discovered that no one had thought to put diesel in the generator. Second
weekend the UPS went bang. Third weekend it was discovered that my test
facility was not actually connected into the power backup network. Fourth
weekend, power stayed up, but half the equipment went down because of spikes
on the voltage at switching.

The fifth weekend was the millenium itself, thankfully power backup was
never needed.

//Clive.

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In article id, Jim
Crowther scribeth thus
In uk.tech.broadcast, on Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:23:10, Zathras wrote:

My broadcasting experience is that we'd have had fewer bits of broken
kit and fewer outages if we hadn't had any UPSs at all!

Agreed!

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.

Outstanding idea.


Yep UPS's aren't the most reliable backup power. We directly float quite
a bit of Telecoms equipment off battery banks at either 24 or 48 volts,

Much more reliable that whopping it back up to 230 volts;))..
--
Tony Sayer

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On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:01:21 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:23:10 +0100, Zathras wrote:

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.

Hopefully the generator comes up before the kinetics spin down...

It's regularly run, tested and maintained - if it's like our last one,
probably a twin engine unit. Totally reliable IME.

--
Z

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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:59:13 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Zathras" wrote in message
.. .
snip

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.


I assume by "kinetic batteries" you mean 'motor-flywheel-generators',
if so, how is this implemented?

Two contra-rotating units (fearlessly) located on the roof. They
supply energy instantly and for a longer time than the generator takes
to start and stabilise. I don't have any more detail of our
installation so for more than that, Google is the place to look - KBs
are amazing devices!

--
Z

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On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:21:28 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

On 01/06/2008 23:02, Andy Champ wrote:

Our critical servers are all fitted with dual PSUs. The idea is that
one is fed from the UPS, and one straight from the mains. Lose the
mains, and the UPS kicks in. Lose the UPS, and they run straight from
the mains.

Early morning generator test occurs, you loose mains for a few seconds,
no problem UPS cuts in, generator starts, that extra server you added
recently increases the inrush current as half of your PSUs come back on
line at once, mains MCB trips, current drawn by the other half of your
PSUs is double normal, workload increases on the servers as people start
logging on for the day, servers draw that critical few extra amps, a
circuit breaker on the UPS reaches its limit and it trips, it goes dark
and quiet ...

...or..

My favourite is the 'Domestos' scenario - where the UPS decides that
the mains frequency isn't near enough 50Hz even, ironically, though
it's good enough for the purpose. It then kicks in only to discover
its batteries are gubbed and, in its death throes, puts out *severe*
spikes killing everything it feeds..dead.

We had this with the transmission system at our old building and it
killed a Sony LMS pretty convincingly.

If you get these sorts of spikes they will likely rampage through the
UPS connected PSUs blowing them and the attached motherboards or, if
lucky, just cause them to hang.

Because of this kind of situation, IMHO, anywhere there's a UPS,
there's a single point of failure for all the attached devices
regardless of almost any other redundancy provision.

--
Z

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"Zathras" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:21:28 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:


My favourite is the 'Domestos' scenario - where the UPS decides that
the mains frequency isn't near enough 50Hz even, ironically, though
it's good enough for the purpose. It then kicks in only to discover
its batteries are gubbed and, in its death throes, puts out *severe*
spikes killing everything it feeds..dead.


The UPS failure I mentioned in my previous message was caused by an overload
on one of the phases, we soon discovered that some offices in the building
considered 'critical business equipment' to include the photo-copier, coffee
machine, fridge and a microwave. They had managed to string 4-gang extension
right they way round the office to ensure almost every piece of electrical
equipment was connected to the wonderful UPS, therefore overloading one of
the phases on the carefully specified UPS.

//Clive.

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"Zathras" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:59:13 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Zathras" wrote in message
. ..
snip

At out new building, we don't have any - just two kinetic batteries
and a generator that comes up before the KB's spin down.


I assume by "kinetic batteries" you mean 'motor-flywheel-generators',
if so, how is this implemented?

Two contra-rotating units (fearlessly) located on the roof. They
supply energy instantly and for a longer time than the generator takes
to start and stabilise. I don't have any more detail of our
installation so for more than that, Google is the place to look - KBs
are amazing devices!

Where I worked, we just had a generator and no other provision for
maintaining power when the mains went down. One notorious day, the mains
went off so all the computers went down. A few seconds later (but too late
to keep the computers going) there was an almighty roar from outside the
window, accompanied by clouds of black smoke, as the generator kicked in. So
the power came back. Just as we'd started to boot up the servers, there was
a loud bang from the generator, a blinding flash of blue and a huge sheet or
orange flame: it transpired that the power being drawn was vastly in excess
of what the generator was rated to supply and it had overloaded, setting
fire to the generator windings and then the tank of diesel. The folly of
blocking off one of the car-park entrances as a security measure was
highlighted when the fire engines tried to use it as the designated route to
avoid the crowds of mingling people who had been evacuated into the car
park, and found that they couldn't any longer - a classic case of one thing
leading to another: lots of lessons were learned that day!

At the other end of the scale, when I was working in a small office and
there was a power cut, they realised that not only were the computers down
but also the phone system failed because it was VOIP and the router had no
power. I saved the day when i remembered that I had a 12V-240V inveter in
my car (useful for powering my laptop etc on the move) and we hooked it up
to the phone system so we could still take phone calls. A classic "all eggs
in one basket" failure; I think they changed things afterwards so that a
power failure in the router failed over to a conventional analogue line with
a non-cordless phone.

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Yes, that story took place some years ago nearer the start of my IT
career (which was itself a second career) than the beginning, but
towards the end of it, after some promotion, I was in a party from the
same firm invited to IBM in the States, where they demonstrated all
their latest servers, which featured dual everything and the then
latest hotplug technology.

The demo was quite impressive. A rather nice petite girl set up a
presentation running off a server via the network, and then invited
some of down one by one to pull bits out of the server. We removed a
PSU, a netcard, some RAM, a disk, and I can't remember what else, and
it never even blinked.

But the thing about my original story that I could never get my head
round was the stupidity of doing a test like that during office hours.

If the supply had never failed, or had failed out of office hours, the
test lost more collective man-hours than if we'd never had a UPS at
all, while if the supply had failed during office hours, we would have
been no worse off having no UPS at all! And either way, we would have
saved the cost of the equipment and the 'maintenance' contract.

Such a system doesn't make any sense if it is tested at a time when
the potential consequences are as catastrophic as that which the
system itself is supposed to be guarding against. It only makes sense
testing it at times when the consequences are not severe..

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:02:41 +0100, Andy Champ
wrote:

Java Jive wrote:
Somehow, I can't show any surprise ...

snips long scary story

Our critical servers are all fitted with dual PSUs.

[snip]

Repeat after me: "No Single Point Of Failure" :)

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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:42:06 +0100, Zathras wrote:

It's regularly run, tested and maintained -

Hopefully more than check the oil, start, stopped and left until the next
"test". It should be checked, started, run with a hefty load for several
hours then stopped and checked again.

if it's like our last one, probably a twin engine unit.

Single alternator or a "twin set"? Two engines, two alternators and
syncronishing switch gear.

Totally reliable IME.

A lot of people say that, until the system is pressed into serious action.
B-)

--
Cheers
Dave.

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"Mortimer" wrote in message
et...

snip

A classic "all eggs in one basket" failure; I think they changed
things afterwards so that a power failure in the router failed over
to a conventional analogue line with a non-cordless phone.


I always understood it as a H&S pre-requisite that at least one phone
had to be connected (or at least fall-over to) a conventional analogue
line for exactly the reason you cite - and that phone had to be sited
were anyone could use it?

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"Clive" wrote in message
...

"Zathras" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:21:28 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:


My favourite is the 'Domestos' scenario - where the UPS decides
that
the mains frequency isn't near enough 50Hz even, ironically, though
it's good enough for the purpose. It then kicks in only to discover
its batteries are gubbed and, in its death throes, puts out
*severe*
spikes killing everything it feeds..dead.


The UPS failure I mentioned in my previous message was caused by an
overload
on one of the phases, we soon discovered that some offices in the
building
considered 'critical business equipment' to include the
photo-copier, coffee
machine, fridge and a microwave. They had managed to string 4-gang
extension
right they way round the office to ensure almost every piece of
electrical
equipment was connected to the wonderful UPS, therefore overloading
one of
the phases on the carefully specified UPS.


There really is a case for all office equipment to be 'hard wired'
into their respective power source, or at least any equipment/circuit
that is UPS 'protected'...

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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:27:06 +0100, "Stephen"
wrote:

For a while there was a newer looking fault caption on ITV2+1 on Freeview.
It said "There is a Fault. Normal service will be resumed as soon as
possible." in yellow letters on a light blue background (electronically
generated), accompanied by a woman's voice reading out the same words. The
voice sounded a bit over compressed or narrow bandwidth. It was different
from ITV2+1 on satellite and unlike any of the other the fault captions.

ITV2+1 on Freeview is an oddity, being on a National Grid Wireless multiplex
instead of an ITV one, so could this have been a Red Bee fault caption from
BBC White City perhaps?

No, that's the generic fault caption (and audio) generated by National
Grid Wireless when an incoming feed goes down.
--

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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 16:48:32 +0100, "Stephen"
wrote:

I thought that Freeview multiplexes 1, B, C, D were put together by
BBC/RedBee coding & multiplexing. ITV2+1 is on mux C or D (don't remember
which), so if it doesn't go there I wonder where it does go?

No, Mux C and D are operated by National Grid Wireless. Nothing to do
with the BBC or Red Bee in any way.

--

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"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:27:06 +0100, "Stephen"
wrote:

For a while there was a newer looking fault caption on ITV2+1 on
Freeview.
It said "There is a Fault. Normal service will be resumed as soon as
possible." in yellow letters on a light blue background (electronically
generated), accompanied by a woman's voice reading out the same words.

I note the lack of words "We apologise ...." on this new, electronically
generated version.