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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:51:36 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:
No, and if I'd been a Celt at the time I would have been pretty ****ed
off. That's the point.

Agreed, but the Celts were pretty upset when the Romans invaded in 43 AD
were they not?

Yet 400 plus years later, when the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes send over
their expeditionary forces, what do the Celts do?

They send a letter to Rome asking Rome to send back some of the
"occupationary forces" to defend them.

Of course, because after that period of time the Romans were part of 'us'.

There's nothing special about my stance, historically. Like all
other indigenous people I don't like invaders.

The difference today however is one of personal mobility, rather than
tribal mobility. Are you really trying to suggest that some tribes in
for example Pakistan are sending over their people to England to
subjugate the populace of eg Leicester?
No, there isn't a plot. I'm fairly confident of that. But if you substitute
'coherent religious/cultural group' for 'tribal' you can see that the
subjugation of Leicester is quite possible, not by military force but by
cultural invasion.


And the policy of the multinational corporations is one of selling off
English industry to the "invaders'" folks back home viz Jaguar to Tata
Motors of India and MG and Rover to the Nanjing and Shanghai auto
corporations, so even if the "invaders" do not arrive in person, they are
buying up the country anyways.
This is totally irrelevant to the question of civil strife caused by the
existence of coherent groups within society who have opposing cultural
values.

In today's Times we are told that a large mosque in London has preachers who
are telling the faithful to kill homosexuals and Christians. Tell me that
isn't worrying.

Bill

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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:57:35 +0100, Cary Cliter wrote:
BTW try reading the recent report by a House of Lords Select Committee
on Economic Affairs on their conclusion of the contributory impact that
immigration makes to this country.

And is this what upsets you most, from Page 19

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The average earnings of immigrants have been higher than that of UK-born
persons since the early 1990s
UNQUOTE

That's what you'd expect because people who have the gumption to move from
one country to another will also have the gumption to earn lots of money.

Bill

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"Cary Cliter" wrote in message
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I mean, if I'm perfectly prepared to pay Bill the going rate to come and
sort my aerial system out, I don't expect him to turn up and move in with
his entire family and move in with me!

If your drive is 25ft long and you have a mains outlet nearby you might get
a surprise!

Bill

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:57:35 +0100, Cary Cliter wrote:
BTW try reading the recent report by a House of Lords Select Committee
on Economic Affairs on their conclusion of the contributory impact that
immigration makes to this country.

And is this what upsets you most, from Page 19

QUOTE
The average earnings of immigrants have been higher than that of UK-born
persons since the early 1990s
UNQUOTE

That's what you'd expect because people who have the gumption to move from
one country to another will also have the gumption to earn lots of money.

Gumption? We used to have a tin of that under the sink.

--
Max Demian

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember J G Miller saying
something like:

Do you protest the cultural imperialism of the USA?

Too bloody right I do, matey.
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Dave

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Cary Cliter"
saying something like:

snip

how then do you suppose that 'any' government is
going to generate sufficient funding to look after all of these extra
millions and their offspring without there being an inevitable breakdown in
social cohesion resulting in major civil unrest?

All those CCTV cams will be very useful and the population well cowed by
then, all living in their cubes.
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Dave

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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Cary Cliter"
saying something like:

snip

how then do you suppose that 'any' government is
going to generate sufficient funding to look after all of these extra
millions and their offspring without there being an inevitable breakdown
in
social cohesion resulting in major civil unrest?

All those CCTV cams will be very useful and the population well cowed by
then, all living in their cubes.
--

It would appear that after posting that even the government seems to be
agreeing with me!.. although it all appears to be unravelling a lot quicker
than even I had envisaged.. As Harold Wilson is alleged to have said "A
week can be a long time in politics".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/sep/01/justice.thefarright
"The document warns that a downturn may lead to: an increase in support for
"far right extremism and racism", a possible increase in support for radical
Islamist groups from people who experience racism and possible unemployment,
an "upward pressure on acquisitive crime", property crime, which increases
during a downturn, an increase in public hostility to migrants as the job
market tightens.









Them

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From http://www.lifesitenews.COM/ldn/2008/aug/08082906.html

New Stats: Europe Facing Demographic Winter, Growing Political, Economic
Tensions

By 2015, European deaths will be greater than births; Russian population
declining by 750,000/year

By Hilary White

BRUSSELS, August 29, 2008 - Population statistics and projections were
released yesterday showing that *European countries are dying out*, even
with immigration, their populations aging and shrinking. A report
released this week by Eurostat, the European Union's statistical service,
showed that by 2015, the number of deaths in Europe will have outstripped
the number of births. By 2060, the ratio of people of working age to
those over age 65 will be two to one.

None of the countries of Europe currently have a general fertility rate
above replacement level and it is predicted that what is being called a
"demographic winter" will strike Europe within thirty years. The report
showed that the growth momentum of Europe's 27 member states will
continue to carry it until 2035; after this the population will begin to
decline drastically from a predicted 521 million to 506 million by 2060.

The report says that until 2035, "positive net migration would be the
only population growth factor."

"However, from 2035 this positive net migration would no longer
counterbalance the negative natural change, and the population is
projected to begin to fall."

All of the countries studied in the report, with the exceptions of the
Republic of Ireland, Andorra, Poland, Malta, the Principality of Monaco,
allow abortion with few or no restrictions. Nearly all the countries of
the European Union maintain state funded contraception programmes.

The report showed that by 2060, Britain would have the largest population
with a current fertility rate, according to the Office for National
Statistics, of 1.91 children per woman and nearly restrictionless
immigration policies. The ONS predicts a population of 70 million by
2031, but says that at least 70 per cent of the rise will be attributable
directly to immigration. Germany, currently the biggest country in the EU
with more than 82 million people, will see its population shrink by 14
per cent according to the Eurostat report.

ONS figures released last week showed that there are now more pensioners
than children in the UK. Even so, given the situation of other countries,
the report revealed that Britain will have the youngest population in
Europe. By 2060, 24.7 per cent of people in Britain will be 65 or older
but in Poland, the proportion will be 36.2 per cent. About 17 per cent of
Europeans are currently aged 65 or older; by 2060 the numbers will have
risen to 30 per cent.

The average age for Britons is 39 and will be 42 in 2060, but this will
be the lowest age in Europe with the exception of Luxembourg. The average
age of Europeans is now just over 40; this will be 48 by 2060. The
current median age for women in France, 40.7 years, is already over that
at which women can easily conceive

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In article , J G Miller wrote:
A report
released this week by Eurostat, the European Union's statistical service,
showed that by 2015, the number of deaths in Europe will have outstripped
the number of births.

It's about time it did. There are far too many of us already.

If this report is an attempt to get us to worry about the population
falling, at this rate it would be a few centuries before anybody needed to,
by which time a great many other changes will have happened, so who cares?

Rod.
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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In article , J G Miller wrote:
A report
released this week by Eurostat, the European Union's statistical service,
showed that by 2015, the number of deaths in Europe will have outstripped
the number of births.

It's about time it did. There are far too many of us already.

If this report is an attempt to get us to worry about the population
falling, at this rate it would be a few centuries before anybody needed
to,
by which time a great many other changes will have happened, so who cares?


Rod, it's been estimated that the ideal sized population for 'quality' of
life for the UK would be around 30 million not 70!
Many less densely packed countries than ourselves appear to enjoy quite a
good quality of life i.e Switzerland 7.5 million, New Zealand with around
four million, and Australia with circa 20,000,000.