TV and built in Freesat?
 

Brian McIlwrath writes:

Anyway the BBC have apparently decided that they like the "press red for
other matches" ability and the enhanced EPG features of Sky - that being so
they had no real choice but to design a new EPG to duplicate them.

Would they not have done better to emulate the freeview EPG which can be
viewed at the same time as watching the TV station (on at least some
boxes). Unlike the Sky one, which acts as separate channel and therefore
cannot be consulted while continuing to a programme.

TV and built in Freesat?
 

No because they won't be available soon. After all analogue is dead, at
least this is one certainty.

Brian

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Brian Gaff wrote:
Rather than built in anything, I've heard many manufacturers are
getting so ****ed of with moving goalposts in the standards dept,
there will be a rash of what are basically monitors coming out with
matching under set boxes for whatever the standard is at the time.

The problem with that is there are a lot of non-technical consumers who
buy a TV who expect to be able to just switch it on and see a programme,
not have to fiddle with a separate box, second remote, etc. So for the
foreseeable future they will continue to buy analogue TV sets.

(kim)

TV and built in Freesat?
 

Brian McIlwrath wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
: What is apparent is that neither Sky's, or BBC/ITV's requirements appear
: to be met fully by the DVB-S standard, and both have added proprietary
: additions to the standard. [...]

Does anyone know what the BBC/ITV requirements were, or is this a guess?
I'd guess that unremovable 'Press Red' droppings are part of it.

I believe that both Sky and Freesat *do* broadcast to DVB-S standards - but
these only mandate "now&next" data. Some German channels broadcast a 7-day
EPG but I do not believe that this is an integral part of DVB-S either!. It
also, AFAIK, only covers channels on one single transponder.

The 7-day EPG is an integral part of DVB-S (Service Information Event Info
Tables or DVB-SI EIT) and I understand it could theoretically cover several
transponders but it would make it even slower to populate.

Anyway the BBC have apparently decided that they like the "press red for
other matches" ability and the enhanced EPG features of Sky - that being so
they had no real choice but to design a new EPG to duplicate them.

They had a choice (DVB and MHEG like Germany, most likely, or a anti-competitive
custom system like Sky) and I don't know which they went for - does anyone here?

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TV and built in Freesat?
 

MJ Ray wrote:

: They had a choice (DVB and MHEG like Germany, most likely, or a
: anti-competitive custom system like Sky) and I don't know which they went
: for - does anyone here?

Well Bob_Cat from Humax on the digitalspy forums has said that the full
Freesat EPG technical specs are only available to licensed manufacturers and
has hinted that the complexity of these is a major factor in the late arrival
of the Humax PVR!

So the answer to your question may be obvious!