TV and built in Freesat?
 

Peter Crosland wrote:
I have Googled without success. Has anyone heard of any plans for TVs
with built in Freesat?

Peter Crosland



Panasonic will be making them but don't expect any announcements before
Freesat is launched.

TV and built in Freesat?
 

Chris wrote:
"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
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I have Googled without success. Has anyone heard of any plans for
TVs with built in Freesat?

Peter Crosland




Hi Peter,

I believe that Panasonic will be bringing out a new model with
built-in Freesat receiver this July. Take a look at
www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums click on "satellite" and then "Freesat"
for all info about Freesat (including links to screen-shots taken
yesterday). Freesat doesn't officially launch until 6th May, but when
it does, EVERYONE will know about it!

Thanks Chris and everyone else as well. I shall keep my eyes open.

Peter Crosland

TV and built in Freesat?
 

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
Ivan wrote:

: I could well have been mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that I saw a Humax
: Freesat model listed in a brochure that I was browsing through in a
friend's
: TV workshop on Friday, I'll try and find out next week and if I was
right
: I'll post the model number and listed spec.

Humax are only doing a Freesat HD STB (for the launch day) and also have
exclusive rights for the first Freesat HD-PVR. They seem to have annoyed a
lot of people (and to be taking some of the shine off the launch day!) by
announcing that their HD-PVR won't be ready until about August!


Why would Freesat grant exclusive rights? I've always assume that the
absence of other products was due to lack of interest by the manufacturers -
but is that not the case?

--
Michael Chare

TV and built in Freesat?
 

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:36:44 +0100, "Michael Chare"
wrote:

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
Ivan wrote:

: I could well have been mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that I saw a Humax
: Freesat model listed in a brochure that I was browsing through in a
friend's
: TV workshop on Friday, I'll try and find out next week and if I was
right
: I'll post the model number and listed spec.

Humax are only doing a Freesat HD STB (for the launch day) and also have
exclusive rights for the first Freesat HD-PVR. They seem to have annoyed a
lot of people (and to be taking some of the shine off the launch day!) by
announcing that their HD-PVR won't be ready until about August!


Why would Freesat grant exclusive rights? I've always assume that the
absence of other products was due to lack of interest by the manufacturers -
but is that not the case?

Just guessing, but wouldn't granting exclusive rights for a
period of time make it more worthwhile for the chosen
manufacturer? 100% of a limited market is worth much more than
25-30% of the same market.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe)

TV and built in Freesat?
 

Michael Chare wrote:

: Why would Freesat grant exclusive rights? I've always assume that the
: absence of other products was due to lack of interest by the manufacturers -
: but is that not the case?

For whatever reason only 4 manuafacturers were signed up for Freesat launch
(Alba = Bush, Grundig etc. etc, Panasonic for IDTVs, Humax and Sagem (who
dropped out AFAIR)) - and only Humax are doing a PVR. It has been said that
these 3 (4 less Sagem) are guaranteed 6 months exclusivity. Also Freesat
won't release specs to anyone unwilling to submit to full testing - so any
non-approved software for Linux mythtv, Hauppauge etc. may have to await
reverse engineering of the Freesat broadcast streams.

TV and built in Freesat?
 

Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:36:44 +0100, "Michael Chare"
wrote:

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
Ivan wrote:

I could well have been mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that I saw a
Humax Freesat model listed in a brochure that I was browsing
through in a friend's TV workshop on Friday, I'll try and find out
next week and if I was right I'll post the model number and listed
spec.

Humax are only doing a Freesat HD STB (for the launch day) and also
have exclusive rights for the first Freesat HD-PVR. They seem to
have annoyed a lot of people (and to be taking some of the shine
off the launch day!) by announcing that their HD-PVR won't be ready
until about August!


Why would Freesat grant exclusive rights? I've always assume that
the absence of other products was due to lack of interest by the
manufacturers - but is that not the case?

Just guessing, but wouldn't granting exclusive rights for a
period of time make it more worthwhile for the chosen
manufacturer? 100% of a limited market is worth much more than
25-30% of the same market.



However couldn't it be classed as being a kind of restrictive practice, in
which case wouldn't it be illegal in this country?

TV and built in Freesat?
 

Mark Carver wrote:

: They annoyed me so much, that as a stop gap I've just bought a second
: hand Sky HD box. Life's too short !

Better solution anyway!!! (for me anyway as I use Sky Broadband at home).

I have had a non-HD-subscription Sky-HD STB for the last 10 months and I am
even thinking of finally signing up to Sky-HD - as the latest additions
(Rush TV and FXHD) show things I would like!!!

TV and built in Freesat?
 

Brian Gaff wrote:
Rather than built in anything, I've heard many manufacturers are
getting so ****ed of with moving goalposts in the standards dept,
there will be a rash of what are basically monitors coming out with
matching under set boxes for whatever the standard is at the time.

The problem with that is there are a lot of non-technical consumers who buy
a TV who expect to be able to just switch it on and see a programme, not
have to fiddle with a separate box, second remote, etc. So for the
foreseeable future they will continue to buy analogue TV sets.

(kim)

TV and built in Freesat?
 

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:23:14 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:36:44 +0100, "Michael Chare"
wrote:

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
Ivan wrote:

I could well have been mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that I saw a
Humax Freesat model listed in a brochure that I was browsing
through in a friend's TV workshop on Friday, I'll try and find out
next week and if I was right I'll post the model number and listed
spec.

Humax are only doing a Freesat HD STB (for the launch day) and also
have exclusive rights for the first Freesat HD-PVR. They seem to
have annoyed a lot of people (and to be taking some of the shine
off the launch day!) by announcing that their HD-PVR won't be ready
until about August!


Why would Freesat grant exclusive rights? I've always assume that
the absence of other products was due to lack of interest by the
manufacturers - but is that not the case?

Just guessing, but wouldn't granting exclusive rights for a
period of time make it more worthwhile for the chosen
manufacturer? 100% of a limited market is worth much more than
25-30% of the same market.



However couldn't it be classed as being a kind of restrictive practice, in
which case wouldn't it be illegal in this country?

[sfx Ding Dong] Is there a lawyer in the house?

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe)

TV and built in Freesat?
 

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
Michael Chare wrote:

: Why would Freesat grant exclusive rights? I've always assume that the
: absence of other products was due to lack of interest by the
manufacturers -
: but is that not the case?

For whatever reason only 4 manuafacturers were signed up for Freesat
launch
(Alba = Bush, Grundig etc. etc, Panasonic for IDTVs, Humax and Sagem (who
dropped out AFAIR)) - and only Humax are doing a PVR. It has been said
that
these 3 (4 less Sagem) are guaranteed 6 months exclusivity. Also Freesat
won't release specs to anyone unwilling to submit to full testing - so any
non-approved software for Linux mythtv, Hauppauge etc. may have to await
reverse engineering of the Freesat broadcast streams.

So is that why the start being held back, it means that the usual names we
buy will not get the Christmas market, Sony, JVC, Panasonic, Philips,
Pioneer etc.

--
Regards,
David

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