Future of TIVO ?
 

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:58:21 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Doug,
Wes is our resident troll. You are trying to teach a pig to sing
here. In strict technical matters he has been proven wrong time and
time again. In something like this, that would require him to
actually become educated and do a little reading, he will probably
just end up insulting you or your mother and throw another hissy fit.

Eh, about half the time he's correct about a small part in an
entirely-irrelevant manner, as in this case about the serialized hard
drive access, and focuses his entire attention on the small part for the
rest of the conversation. Give the man his due.

--
Is it just me, or is it a clear indication that a thread is ending its
useful life is when people start debating the merits of the analogies
that have been posed rather than the original subject matter of the
thread? --Rhetorical question by Rainer Atkins founding "Atkins' Law"

Future of TIVO ?
 

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:58:21 -0700, zafdor wrote:

Doug,
Wes is our resident troll. You are trying to teach a pig to sing here.
In strict technical matters he has been proven wrong time and time
again. In something like this, that would require him to actually
become educated and do a little reading, he will probably just end up
insulting you or your mother and throw another hissy fit.

And you are a lying piece of **** TivoNero that always resorts to crap
insults like this. I've proven you, and the other TivoNeros flat out lie,
distort the truth, and just been plain wrong on numerous occassions. And
like a good little Tivonero this is your response to something you weren't
even involved in. Go suck your thumb. That's about the stage of your
intelligence.

On Apr 29, 7:24Â*pm, Douglas Johnson wrote:

You're still blowing smoke. Â*You said the patent was invalid. To
invalidate a patent, you need specific prior art that teaches or makes
obvious Â*each element of each claim of the patent. Â*I keep asking for
that, you keep dodging and weaving.

-- Doug

I was going to drop this, but for the record I didn't say the patent was
not valid. I said they never should have got one. Now That's just my
opinion. You keep wanting to bring prior art into it. Well, I don't have
any artwork. I do however have common senses and I've explained my
position on it. I couldn't care less if you agree or not.




--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm
Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm
AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php

Future of TIVO ?
 

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:48:45 -0500, Douglas Johnson wrote:

wrote:

Doug,
Wes is our resident troll. You are trying to teach a pig to sing here.

Sigh. I should know better. I guess the devil made me do it.

I would assume the defendants lawyers looked over the claims and would
have tried to invalidate any that the could, that's enough for me to
know that they're probably all good.

Oh, yeah. The defendants' lawyers spent millions trying to invalidate
the claims, I'm sure. The real irony is that, if Wes could invalidate
the claims, he could pick up a nice piece of change.

You just don't get it do you. Their claims invalidate themselves. Their
claims are nothing more than drawing out in long legalese the process of
storing data to media. In this case an HDD. Theirs nothing wrong with
their claims except a couple of minor mistakes. The problem is, there's
nothing new about it and the patent for this should never have benn
issued. Now I suppose a judge or group of judges that probably don't know
one thing about how they boot their computer other than just turning it on
have no clue that all their claims, while basically true, is just the same
old technology that's been around for years. And the only reason it was
made possible is not because of Tivo or Replay. It was because the HDD
industry finally started producing HDD's that had the capacity to hold
large data files that's required for digital video. You can go on and on
about prior art and all that BS, but these are the facts as I see them,
and anyone that's been in the computer industry for more than a few years
should also see them IMO.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm
Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm
AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php

Future of TIVO ?
 

Wes Newell wrote:


You just don't get it do you. Their claims invalidate themselves. Their
claims are nothing more than drawing out in long legalese the process of
storing data to media. In this case an HDD. Theirs nothing wrong with
their claims except a couple of minor mistakes. The problem is, there's
nothing new about it and the patent for this should never have benn
issued.

As I said, if you can prove that, you can earn yourself a nice piece of change.
But "everyone knows" won't cut it. -- Doug