"Can't get any TV" related question
 

On 18 Apr 2008 06:02:38 GMT, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:01:26 GMT Wes Newell wrote:
| On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:26:41 +0000, phil-news-nospam wrote:
|
| | If you decide to junk your set, you should pay for the recycling. |
| Thumper
|
| But if the government decides to junk it, they should at least pay for
| the recycling.
|
| Come on now, the government uses our money. I don't want to pay for you to
| junk your TV. Pay for it yourself. It's your TV.

If you are so much into "the government should not ..." then why not take
the position that the government should not prohibit us from just dumping
the old bube tube in the local trash pile?


That really is nonsensical.

I wouldn't be junking the TV if the government had not changed the TV system.
So I see it as their responsibility.

You don'y have to junk the tv. Just get a converter box and in most
cases you will get even more programming than before.
Thumper

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On 18 Apr 2008 06:02:38 GMT, wrote:

I wouldn't be junking the TV if the government had not changed the TV system.
So I see it as their responsibility.
The (NTSC) TV is still a TV that works with many devices OTHER than an
Antenna or Analog Cable.
All the Gov did was mandate one of your possible inputs go away. The choice
to junk a *working* TV is yours. I had a Non-Cable ready set that I ran until
it dropped simply by using an external VCR or STB (hint) .

FWIW
I am glad they mandated DTV.
Look at NTSC.We had that crappy system because it was "compatible" with older
Black and White sets of the day instead of the 'better' systems used other
places. We have bee stuck with off color pictures for40+ years because of it.
(OK some of it is because most people don't even learn what Tint and Hue
controls do, let alone adjust them using color bars. I have yet to have a set
that 'Automatic' is dead nuts on color+contrast))
So hook a DVD, VCR, Laser Disc, Pong Game G or Gasp a converter box to
your old TV 's and continue to use them that way.

BTW How many DIFFERENT programs are tuned in at the same time on the various
sets? If your house is like min (and my friends), the SAME show is on more
than on set so people can move between rooms (cooking, household chores)
frequently. You only need ONE tuner in those cases. My Kitchen TV has never
been connected to an Antenna. It has always (20 years) been a slave monitor to
the set in the Living Room. My current HD Set (Sceptre 32") has a NTSC out
jack. Guess where it goes to?

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On 18 Apr 2008 06:03:48 GMT, wrote:

I'm almost tempted to say that is a good idea. But maybe it is better that
the government just shut down TV altogether and buy us all memberships in
the book of the month club.
I already spent way more time reading (Dead Tree) books than I do watching the
boob-tube (Funny how all the shows I liked have gone away).

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On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:48:32 GMT, "Pete C." wrote:

uh? The "incumbent system" you're referring to is called a city or
town. The telcos wouldn't have built there unless there was a city or
town, nor would the electric utility, gas utility, water, sewer, roads,
etc. To claim that a city or town is somehow an "incumbent system" is
absurd.
What is the REA? Why do you think it was formed?

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"Barbara" wrote (in part):

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:16:05 UTC, Del Mibbler [email protected] wrote:

If you don't know what the EDTV can do, post its model number so we
can look it up.

This is a Sharp Aquos Model LC-13B6U-S, even smaller than I described.
13 incher! I bought it late 2005, so that's most likely the mfg.
year.

I've seen this model described as HDTV capable, HDTV ready and not.
In the manual specifications page TV mode is described as NTSC-N358
for USA. It has 4 view modes: 4:3 (screen configuration), 16:9, Zoom
and Stretch so that input can be adjusted. The only reference to HDTV
in this whole book is a related note that says, "VIEW MODE settings
are not available when HDTV signals are input. All HDTV programs will
be displayed in letter box format (bars at top and bottom of screen)."
Doesn't bother saying how you "input' those HDTV signals. It also
sports 921,600 dots VGA. It's a great little set.

That's why I said I don't think it has a digital tuner. I'm pretty
sure the larger models in this series (20" and above) did have HTDV
tuners.

You're right, it doesn't. Just NTSC (and PAL and SECAM). Two
composite inputs, one of which has optional S-Video, and one component
input. No word on what the component input can accept, but probably
limited to 480p such as from a DVD player.

Del Mibbler

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Steve Urbach wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:48:32 GMT, "Pete C." wrote:

uh? The "incumbent system" you're referring to is called a city or
town. The telcos wouldn't have built there unless there was a city or
town, nor would the electric utility, gas utility, water, sewer, roads,
etc. To claim that a city or town is somehow an "incumbent system" is
absurd.
What is the REA? Why do you think it was formed?


Rural Electrification Administration - far too ancient history to have
any relevance to the discussion of CATV's non monopoly status in the
delivered entertainment and communication services world.

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On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:31:59 -0500, "Pete C." wrote:


Steve Urbach wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:48:32 GMT, "Pete C." wrote:

uh? The "incumbent system" you're referring to is called a city or
town. The telcos wouldn't have built there unless there was a city or
town, nor would the electric utility, gas utility, water, sewer, roads,
etc. To claim that a city or town is somehow an "incumbent system" is
absurd.
What is the REA? Why do you think it was formed?


Rural Electrification Administration - far too ancient history to have
any relevance to the discussion of CATV's non monopoly status in the
delivered entertainment and communication services world.
Then *Why* is it still around :^)

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Steve Urbach wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:31:59 -0500, "Pete C." wrote:

Steve Urbach wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:48:32 GMT, "Pete C." wrote:

uh? The "incumbent system" you're referring to is called a city or
town. The telcos wouldn't have built there unless there was a city or
town, nor would the electric utility, gas utility, water, sewer, roads,
etc. To claim that a city or town is somehow an "incumbent system" is
absurd.
What is the REA? Why do you think it was formed?

Rural Electrification Administration - far too ancient history to have
any relevance to the discussion of CATV's non monopoly status in the
delivered entertainment and communication services world.
Then *Why* is it still around :^)

Perhaps for the same reason the initials FDR are "still around".

REA represents the "Rural Electrification Act" of 1936.

more he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_Electrification_Act

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Steve Urbach wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:31:59 -0500, "Pete C." wrote:


Steve Urbach wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:48:32 GMT, "Pete C." wrote:

uh? The "incumbent system" you're referring to is called a city or
town. The telcos wouldn't have built there unless there was a city or
town, nor would the electric utility, gas utility, water, sewer, roads,
etc. To claim that a city or town is somehow an "incumbent system" is
absurd.
What is the REA? Why do you think it was formed?


Rural Electrification Administration - far too ancient history to have
any relevance to the discussion of CATV's non monopoly status in the
delivered entertainment and communication services world.
Then *Why* is it still around :^)

They have to keep those gov'mt workers employed.

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On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:53:31 GMT Wes Newell wrote:
| On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:02:38 +0000, phil-news-nospam wrote:
|
| On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:01:26 GMT Wes Newell
| wrote: | On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:26:41
| +0000, phil-news-nospam wrote: |
| | | If you decide to junk your set, you should pay for the recycling. |
| | Thumper
| |
| | But if the government decides to junk it, they should at least pay
| for | the recycling.
| |
| | Come on now, the government uses our money. I don't want to pay for
| you to | junk your TV. Pay for it yourself. It's your TV.
|
| If you are so much into "the government should not ..." then why not
| take the position that the government should not prohibit us from just
| dumping the old bube tube in the local trash pile?
|
| I wouldn't be junking the TV if the government had not changed the TV
| system. So I see it as their responsibility.
|
| If it works, somebody wants it. So why junk it at all? if it doesn't work,
| then you'd have to junk it anyway.

That's not necessarily the complete list. Add "it works, but nobody wants it".

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