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On 4 Mar, 16:51, ":Jerry:" wrote:
"Paul Martin" wrote in message

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:Jerry: wrote:

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On 3 Mar, 16:53, Edster wrote:
":Jerry:" wrote:

Record a day's worth and listen to it the following day.

Wow, you must be God, for how else can someone record tomorrows
news and current affairs today?!

BBC7 doesn't have news and current affairs programmes. What it
does
have also gets repeated several times a day.

...and is available on demand on their website for 7 days after
broadcast. The sound quality is lower than DAB, but the
convenience
and range is far greater!

How does one listen to it in the car though considering that it's
an
"On demand" service rather than a "Download"? Duh!

mplayer -ao pcm:waveheader:file=output.wav rtsp://...

But you still can't listen live or 'On demand', all listening would
need to be pre planed...

So grabbing all the programmes you like (automatically?) and dumping
them on your iPod (automatically?), giving you an entire week's output
of BBC7 to choose from is inferior to having a DAB radio which will
play you the current programme only.

What a strange idea! You'll be telling me next that a PVR is inferior
to watching live TV with adverts!

Cheers,
David.

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Paul Martin wrote on 04/03/2008 18:11:
In article ,
Peter Scandrett wrote:
Paul Martin wrote on 02/03/2008 18:59:
In article ,
Ivor Jones wrote:

"Online, OnDigital and OnEightyeightToNinetyoneFM"

As a physicist by training[0], it was drilled into me to always use
appropriate units, so every time they miss off the megahertz I wince.

Did you mean MegaHertz? :-p

Hertz is a name. The unit's symbol (Hz) starts with a capital because
of it being a name (with one exception). However, you write most units
in lower case, including their SI prefixes. Therefore, "megahertz" is
the correct notation.

http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-1.html
http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html

You learn something every day. I knew about Hertz being a name,
obviously (along with many of the others) but I'd never really twigged
that writing things down in full were normally in lowercase; however,
now you come to mention it, joule, becquerel, watt, pascal etc look a
bit odd capitalised.

I stand corrected, thank you for pointing it out and now crawl back into
my hole...!

Peter

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[snip]

: : So grabbing all the programmes you like
: : (automatically?) and dumping them on your iPod
: : (automatically?), giving you an entire week's output of
: : BBC7 to choose from is inferior to having a DAB radio
: : which will play you the current programme only.

I haven't got an iPod. Nor do I want one. I want a radio I can listen to
in the car. Nothing more.

: : What a strange idea! You'll be telling me next that a
: : PVR is inferior to watching live TV with adverts!

Different topic. I don't watch TV in the car.

Ivor

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"Edster" wrote in message

: : "Ivor Jones" wrote:
: :
: :
: : : wrote in message
: : :

: : :
: : : [snip]
: : :
: : : : : So grabbing all the programmes you like
: : : : : (automatically?) and dumping them on your iPod
: : : : : (automatically?), giving you an entire week's
: : : : : output of BBC7 to choose from is inferior to
: : : : : having a DAB radio which will play you the
: : : : : current programme only.
: : :
: : : I haven't got an iPod. Nor do I want one. I want a
: : : radio I can listen to in the car. Nothing more.
: :
: : The FM transmitters for ipods will work with any brand
: : of mp3 player.

Sigh.. I haven't got an MP3 player either.

I repeat - I want to listen to the *radio* in my car using a *radio*
(receiver) - got it yet..?

I don't *want* to grab all the programmes and dump them on an MP3 player,
I want to listen over the air to a broadcast *live* - why is that such a
problem..?


Ivor

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:Jerry: wrote:
"Andy Champ" wrote in message
Most manufacturers will do you a kit to put a DIN radio in their
"special dash".

Will they, I would suggest that on many makes / models it's impossible
due to the fact that there is actually no opening suitable for a DIN
mount, at best I would suggest that some will allow what you suggest
and that other manufactures will provide some sort of DAB back end to
interface with the existing dashboard mounted radio controls.


Jerry,

what car do you have?

My current car and my wife's both have DIN slots (in my case, double DIN
for some odd reason) my son bought a kit for his Fiesta, and my last car
had a kit available - which I never bothered with, because the original
radio was OK.

Andy

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Peter Scandrett wrote:
Paul Martin wrote on 04/03/2008 18:11:
In article ,
Peter Scandrett wrote:
Paul Martin wrote on 02/03/2008 18:59:
In article ,
Ivor Jones wrote:

"Online, OnDigital and OnEightyeightToNinetyoneFM"

As a physicist by training[0], it was drilled into me to always use
appropriate units, so every time they miss off the megahertz I wince.

Did you mean MegaHertz? :-p

Hertz is a name. The unit's symbol (Hz) starts with a capital because
of it being a name (with one exception). However, you write most units
in lower case, including their SI prefixes. Therefore, "megahertz" is
the correct notation.

http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-1.html
http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html

You learn something every day. I knew about Hertz being a name,
obviously (along with many of the others) but I'd never really twigged
that writing things down in full were normally in lowercase; however,
now you come to mention it, joule, becquerel, watt, pascal etc look a
bit odd capitalised.

I stand corrected, thank you for pointing it out and now crawl back into
my hole...!

Peter


Don't mix mHz and MHz though...

to me, Pascal is a (largely obsolete) computer language. When it isn't
Blaise.

Andy

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"Edster" wrote in message

: : "Ivor Jones" wrote:

[snip]

: : : I don't *want* to grab all the programmes and dump
: : : them on an MP3 player, I want to listen over the air
: : : to a broadcast *live* - why is that such a problem..?
: :
: : Because BBC7 isn't on FM, and you said you can't put a
: : DAB radio in your car.

*Exactly*..!!

So suggest a solution to *that* problem, not doing something else
entirely..!

Ivor

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On 4 Mar, 23:52, "Ivor Jones" wrote:
"Edster" wrote in message


: : "Ivor Jones" wrote:

[snip]

: : : I don't *want* to grab all the programmes and dump
: : : them on an MP3 player, I want to listen over the air
: : : to a broadcast *live* - why is that such a problem..?
: :
: : Because BBC7 isn't on FM, and you said you can't put a
: : DAB radio in your car.

*Exactly*..!!

So suggest a solution to *that* problem, not doing something else
entirely..!

Solution: join the 21st century?

Seriously, what solution do you expect? A petition to get BBC7 on FM
or LW? A portable DAB radio connected to your existing car stereo? The
latter is more likely to work, but _could_ be more painful to use than
an mp3 player.

I don't think anyone was trying to be difficult Ivor, just trying to
find ways around a basically unsolvable problem.

Cheers,
David.

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On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:34:32 +0000, Edster wrote:

"
wrote:


On 3 Mar, 16:53, Edster wrote:
":Jerry:" wrote:

"Edster" wrote in message
.. .

snip

Record a day's worth and listen to it the following day.

Wow, you must be God, for how else can someone record tomorrows news
and current affairs today?!

BBC7 doesn't have news and current affairs programmes. What it does
have also gets repeated several times a day.

...and is available on demand on their website for 7 days after
broadcast. The sound quality is lower than DAB, but the convenience
and range is far greater!

Cheers,
David.

I don't know about listen again, but the live internet stream for BBC7
was actually better than the DAB version the last time I tried it.

I've used the listen again feature, but I find that every 10 of so
minutes the sound becomes garbled for a few seconds, which renders it
useless IMHO.

M.

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: : On 4 Mar, 23:52, "Ivor Jones"
: : wrote:
: : : "Edster" wrote in message
: : :
: : :
: : : : : "Ivor Jones" wrote:
: : :
: : : [snip]
: : :
: : : : : : I don't *want* to grab all the programmes and
: : : : : : dump them on an MP3 player, I want to listen
: : : : : : over the air to a broadcast *live* - why is
: : : : : : that such a problem..?
: : : : :
: : : : : Because BBC7 isn't on FM, and you said you can't
: : : : : put a DAB radio in your car.
: : :
: : : *Exactly*..!!
: : :
: : : So suggest a solution to *that* problem, not doing
: : : something else entirely..!
: :
: : Solution: join the 21st century?
: :
: : Seriously, what solution do you expect? A petition to
: : get BBC7 on FM or LW?

Is that so unreasonable..? I don't think FM is going to disappear anytime
soon and BBC7 is (IMHO anyway) infinitely preferable to the plethora of
independent stations like Kerrang (what sort of a name is that..?!) and
others.

: : A portable DAB radio connected to
: : your existing car stereo? The latter is more likely to
: : work, but _could_ be more painful to use than an mp3
: : player.

And it would require fiddling with portable kit on passenger seats, which
I don't think PC Plod would be too keen on if he saw me.

: : I don't think anyone was trying to be difficult Ivor,
: : just trying to find ways around a basically unsolvable
: : problem.

Telling me to record the entire day's output just in case I might want to
listen to something is a bit silly though.

Ivor

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"Edster" wrote in message


[snip]

: : Buy a new car.

I'll await your cheque with anticipation :-)

Ivor

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On 05/03/2008 19:37, Mike Henry wrote:

Well, your only two *solutions* a
1. You must get the BBC to broadcast BBC7 on FM or AM.
2. You must try harder to put a DAB radio in your car.

3. Use some form of mobile internet access and a "car PC" to listen to
the realplayer streams ;-)

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[snip]

: : Well, your only two *solutions* a
: : 1. You must get the BBC to broadcast BBC7 on FM or AM.
: : 2. You must try harder to put a DAB radio in your car.
: :
: : Now, given that those two solutions are probably beyond
: : you, the thread has moved on to providing you with
: : *work-arounds* instead. Then you can at least listen to
: : some BBC7 content whilst in your car, even if it's not
: : live. But you seem strangely resistant to every
: : work-around that has been suggested. Your call.

I don't want a work-around.

I want the stations I want to listen to (I used BBC7 as an example, not
the only one) to be broadcast on an accessible medium. Given the plethora
of junk on FM, some of it could surely be removed to allow more quality
programming. Why can't all the crap pop stations be DAB only..? That would
free up some spectrum on Band 2.

Ivor

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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "Ivor Jones"
wrote:

"Edster" wrote in message
m
: : "Ivor Jones" wrote:
: : : I don't *want* to grab all the programmes and dump
: : : them on an MP3 player, I want to listen over the air
: : : to a broadcast *live* - why is that such a problem..?
: :
: : Because BBC7 isn't on FM, and you said you can't put a
: : DAB radio in your car.

*Exactly*..!!

So suggest a solution to *that* problem, not doing something else
entirely..!

Well, your only two *solutions* a
1. You must get the BBC to broadcast BBC7 on FM or AM.
2. You must try harder to put a DAB radio in your car.

Not the only two solutions
I can think of a third that I use.
If in a 3g cell area with a network that offers cheap data
i.e. (3, T Mobile, Vodfone,etc)
Use a laptop or pocket PC, maybe even smartphone
with a real web browser and realplayer.
get a 3g modem or phone with one.
goto webpage http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/
Bobs your uncle, wireless BBC7 internet radio

Steve Terry

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"Steve Terry" wrote in message


[snip]

: : Not the only two solutions
: : I can think of a third that I use.
: : If in a 3g cell area with a network that offers cheap
: : data i.e. (3, T Mobile, Vodfone,etc)
: : Use a laptop or pocket PC, maybe even smartphone
: : with a real web browser and realplayer.
: : get a 3g modem or phone with one.
: : goto webpage http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/
: : Bobs your uncle, wireless BBC7 internet radio

Somewhat difficult whilst driving a car, Steve, which was my original
point. Besides, the licence fee should give me access to all BBC output
without having to subscribe to a 3G data tariff or buying whatever. I
already have a car radio.

Ivor

: :
: : Steve Terry

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"Mike Henry" wrote in
message
: : In , "Steve Terry"
: : wrote:

[snip]

: : : If in a 3g cell area with a network that offers cheap
: : : data i.e. (3, T Mobile, Vodfone,etc)
: : : Use a laptop or pocket PC, maybe even smartphone
: : : with a real web browser and realplayer.
: : : get a 3g modem or phone with one.
: : : goto webpage http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/
: : : Bobs your uncle, wireless BBC7 internet radio
: :
: : Fair enough, but I have a sneaking suspicion that he'd
: : declare your idea to be a work-around. He apparently
: : doesn't want those :-(

Using a mobile phone to listen to the radio..? More of a bodge than a
workround if you ask me.

Ivor

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 01:11:00 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
wrote:

"Edster" wrote in message


: : 20 quid now aren't they? Even at that price, and with
: : all the adverts on the BBC, people still don't want
: : them. People would rather listen to the radio through
: : their TV because it sounds better. You don't need to
: : be an audiophile to know that, you just need to have
: : ears.

I do most of my radio listening in the car. I am not after super-hifi
quality, I just want to be able to listen to the World Service and BBC7.
But I can't get a DAB radio that fits my car.

Next..?

Ivor

What model of car do you have?
--
Cheers

Peter

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On 2008-03-05, Ivor Jones wrote:
"Steve Terry" wrote in message
: : Not the only two solutions
: : I can think of a third that I use.
: : If in a 3g cell area with a network that offers cheap
: : data i.e. (3, T Mobile, Vodfone,etc)
: : Use a laptop or pocket PC, maybe even smartphone
: : with a real web browser and realplayer.
: : get a 3g modem or phone with one.
: : goto webpage http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/
: : Bobs your uncle, wireless BBC7 internet radio
Somewhat difficult whilst driving a car, Steve, which was my original
point. Besides, the licence fee should give me access to all BBC output
without having to subscribe to a 3G data tariff or buying whatever. I

Does your licence fee pay for your broadband access at home?

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"Paul Murray" wrote in message

: : On 2008-03-05, Ivor Jones
: : wrote:

[snip]

: : : Somewhat difficult whilst driving a car, Steve, which
: : : was my original point. Besides, the licence fee
: : : should give me access to all BBC output without
: : : having to subscribe to a 3G data tariff or buying
: : : whatever. I
: :
: : Does your licence fee pay for your broadband access at
: : home?

What's that got to do with wanting to listen to a BBC channel in the
car..?

Ivor

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On 5 Mar, 18:17, "Ivor Jones" wrote:

Telling me to record the entire day's output just in case I might want to
listen to something is a bit silly though.

You can record exactly those programmes that you might want to listen
to - entirely automatically - on re-usable storage.

If you can't be bothered to use the methods easily and cheaply
available, but instead demand that the BBC builds a new national FM
network, booting out the commercial stations that you don't like to
make room, then I think it's your attitude that is "a bit silly" - I
can't imagine the BBC and OfCom re-planning FM and DAB just to suit
you, but maybe you know powerful people? If Jenny Ambramski can keep
her favourite radio station at 192kbps on DAB while cutting the
bitrates of all the others, it suggests that anything is possible if
you know the right people!

Cheers,
David.

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: : On 5 Mar, 18:17, "Ivor Jones"
: : wrote:
: :
: : : Telling me to record the entire day's output just in
: : : case I might want to listen to something is a bit
: : : silly though.
: :
: : You can record exactly those programmes that you might
: : want to listen to - entirely automatically - on
: : re-usable storage.

But that means I would have to know in advance what I might want to listen
to. Ok sometimes I do, but more often than not I have to go somewhere and
jump in the car, switching on the radio. I don't always know when I might
have to go out, sometimes I'm on call and the phone rings.

: : If you can't be bothered to use the methods easily and
: : cheaply available, but instead demand that the BBC
: : builds a new national FM network, booting out the
: : commercial stations that you don't like to make room,
: : then I think it's your attitude that is "a bit silly" -

Oh. Right. Ok then. If you want to listen to a gaggle of silly little
commercial stations rather than a few with reasonable content then that's
what we've got to do.


Ivor

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"Mike Henry" wrote in
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[snip]

: : 2a. under "trying harder":
: :
http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.r...car_dab_radio/
: : It plugs into the cigarette lighter for power. HTHBIKIW

It's a bodge. But admittedly a slightly less irritating one than most.

I'd still prefer to see quality programming on FM rather than DAB only
though.

Anyone seen this yet..?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/06/dab_fail/


Ivor

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:24:29 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
wrote:

Besides, the licence fee should give me access to all BBC output
without having to subscribe to a 3G data tariff or buying whatever. I
already have a car radio.

The licence fee is not a guarantee of reception.

--

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"Mike Henry" wrote in
message
: In , Andy Burns
: wrote:
:
: On 05/03/2008 19:37, Mike Henry wrote:
:
: Well, your only two *solutions* a
: 1. You must get the BBC to broadcast BBC7 on FM or AM.
: 2. You must try harder to put a DAB radio in your car.
:
: 3. Use some form of mobile internet access and a "car
: PC" to listen to the realplayer streams ;-)
:
: 2a. under "trying harder":
:
http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.r...car_dab_radio/
: It plugs into the cigarette lighter for power. HTHBIKIW

Well, I seem to have sorted it, saw one of these devices while out
shopping today and it looked good so I took the plunge. It's yet more
"stuff" in the car on top of my 2m/70cm amateur transceiver, the satnav
box and the phone kit, but at least it works, although I'm having problems
finding a free FM frequency to receive it on (I said there was too much
junk on FM..!)

I think there may be a line input on the back of the car radio somewhere
though, so I'll have to see if I can access that.

Ivor

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"Ivor Jones" writes:


Well, I seem to have sorted it, saw one of these devices while out
shopping today and it looked good so I took the plunge. It's yet more
"stuff" in the car on top of my 2m/70cm amateur transceiver, the
satnav box and the phone kit, but at least it works, although I'm
having problems finding a free FM frequency to receive it on (I said
there was too much junk on FM..!)

I use 87.9 ( the lowest the TomTom can do ), there should be nothing below
Radio 2. Occasionally get someone else's music though.

I did have a radio once with a 3.5mm jack socket, it would seem such an obvious
thing to put on a radio, makes me wonder if some car radio designers have ever
owned a car.

Phil
--
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understand binary and those that don't.

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Phil wrote:

I use 87.9 ( the lowest the TomTom can do ), there should be nothing below
Radio 2. Occasionally get someone else's music though.

Phil

Not quite! 87.7 is used for a number of University and Hospital Radio
staions.

It is also frequently used for 28 day RSL stations, as I discovered last
year when, knowing I wasn't going near any authorised user (I thought) I
was using 87.7 and ran into an RSL for the Boy Scouts Centenary Jamboree
in Chelsmsford!

87.8 is used for hospital radio in Aberystwyth and 87.9 for Highland
Radio from Malin, if you go that far north.

All this is acedemic in SW Essex/E London as there are no 'spare'
channels anywhere in the band at weekends (and precious few at any other
time) so you just find one you can compete against!

For a complete FM band listing look at
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/.../FM_87_108.pdf

Terry

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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:09:02 +0000, Edster wrote:

Or you could phone a friend and get them to put a radio next to their
phone.

Drive your car through the wall and into the BBC7 studio.

Buy a mains DAB receiver for home, turn the volume up really loud and
only drive really close to your home.


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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:10:49 +0000, PeterT
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 01:11:00 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
wrote:

"Edster" wrote in message
m

: : 20 quid now aren't they? Even at that price, and with
: : all the adverts on the BBC, people still don't want
: : them. People would rather listen to the radio through
: : their TV because it sounds better. You don't need to
: : be an audiophile to know that, you just need to have
: : ears.

I do most of my radio listening in the car. I am not after super-hifi
quality, I just want to be able to listen to the World Service and BBC7.
But I can't get a DAB radio that fits my car.

Next..?

Ivor

What model of car do you have?

Obviously something so unique that a DAB receiver is impossible to
retrofit. Funny that every other car ever produced, from an 1885 Benz,
to a Ford Model T, to an Austin 7, to a Bugatti Royale, to an E Type
Jag, to a Lamborghini Miura, to a VW Beetle, to a Citroen Mehari, to
Fiat 500, to a Vauxhall Velox, to a Hillman Hunter, to a Triumph
Herald, to a Jenson Interceptor, to a series 1 Land Rover, to a
Mercedes 280SL with a Pagoda roof, to a Hummer, etc, etc, etc don't
have a problem fitting DAB.

Most people, by the answers and excuses he keeps giving would conclude
he is just being an awkward tw*t.




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On 7 Mar, 12:01, "Ivor Jones" wrote:
wrote in message


: : On 5 Mar, 18:17, "Ivor Jones": : wrote:

: :
: : : Telling me to record the entire day's output just in
: : : case I might want to listen to something is a bit
: : : silly though.
: :
: : You can record exactly those programmes that you might
: : want to listen to - entirely automatically - on
: : re-usable storage.

But that means I would have to know in advance what I might want to listen
to. Ok sometimes I do, but more often than not I have to go somewhere and
jump in the car, switching on the radio. I don't always know when I might
have to go out, sometimes I'm on call and the phone rings.

....and that stops you having your PC automatically grab programmes for
you how exactly?


: : If you can't be bothered to use the methods easily and
: : cheaply available, but instead demand that the BBC
: : builds a new national FM network, booting out the
: : commercial stations that you don't like to make room,
: : then I think it's your attitude that is "a bit silly" -

Oh. Right. Ok then. If you want to listen to a gaggle of silly little
commercial stations rather than a few with reasonable content then that's
what we've got to do.

You want to close down bussiness that are making money, and replace
them with ones that are not, because you can't fit a DAB radio in your
car?

D.

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wrote in message


[snip]

: : : You can record exactly those programmes that you
: : : might
: : : want to listen to - entirely automatically - on
: : : re-usable storage.
:
: But that means I would have to know in advance what I
: might want to listen to. Ok sometimes I do, but more
: often than not I have to go somewhere and jump in the
: car, switching on the radio. I don't always know when I
: might have to go out, sometimes I'm on call and the
: phone rings.
:
: ...and that stops you having your PC automatically grab
: programmes for you how exactly?

It doesn't, but I want to listen live in the car..!

[snip]

: You want to close down bussiness that are making money,
: and replace them with ones that are not, because you
: can't fit a DAB radio in your car?

I couldn't care less if someone is making money or not. All I want to do
is listen to the radio.

Ivor

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On 18 Mar, 20:40, "Ivor Jones" wrote:
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[snip]

: : : You can record exactly those programmes that you
: : : might
: : : want to listen to - entirely automatically - on
: : : re-usable storage.
:
: But that means I would have to know in advance what I
: might want to listen to. Ok sometimes I do, but more
: often than not I have to go somewhere and jump in the
: car, switching on the radio. I don't always know when I
: might have to go out, sometimes I'm on call and the
: phone rings.
:
: ...and that stops you having your PC automatically grab
: programmes for you how exactly?

It doesn't, but I want to listen live in the car..!

[snip]

: You want to close down bussiness that are making money,
: and replace them with ones that are not, because you
: can't fit a DAB radio in your car?

I couldn't care less if someone is making money or not. All I want to do
is listen to the radio.

I think you've misunderstood the map of the solar system in your
Atlas. The thing the world is revolving around is the Sun, rather than
yourself.

;)

Cheers,
David.

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: On 18 Mar, 20:40, "Ivor Jones"
: wrote:

[snip]

: I couldn't care less if someone is making money or not.
: All I want to do is listen to the radio.
:
: I think you've misunderstood the map of the solar system
: in your Atlas. The thing the world is revolving around is
: the Sun, rather than yourself.
:
: ;)

What's so wrong with wanting to listen to the radio..?

Ivor

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On 19 Mar, 20:50, "Ivor Jones" wrote:
wrote in message


: On 18 Mar, 20:40, "Ivor Jones"

: wrote:

[snip]

: I couldn't care less if someone is making money or not.
: All I want to do is listen to the radio.
:
: I think you've misunderstood the map of the solar system
: in your Atlas. The thing the world is revolving around is
: the Sun, rather than yourself.
:
: ;)

What's so wrong with wanting to listen to the radio..?

No one is stopping you listen to your radio. AFAIK your car radio is
working exactly as designed, and you don't even have to pay a licence
to switch it on!

Cheers,
David.

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wrote in message


[snip]

: No one is stopping you listen to your radio. AFAIK your
: car radio is working exactly as designed, and you don't
: even have to pay a licence to switch it on!

Indeed. However as designed it can't pick up stations I want to listen to.

But you already knew that.


Ivor