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Roderick Stewart February 13th 08 06:53 PM

Freesat To Start...
 
In article , Tony sayer wrote:
The day digital tv for the viewer comes close to what is available in
the production environment is the day hell freezes over -*


aka the day
the engineers shot all the accountants.


Yay!...

Never happen tho...

They wouldn't let 'em spend on the guns and ammo;!..


I think we would willingly stand the expense ourselves.

Rod.


Ben February 13th 08 07:04 PM

Freesat To Start...
 
Commander Gideon wrote:

Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start
actively promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.


Are FIVE interested in Freesat though?


They don't seem to be at the moment, but if it takes off then who knows.

Matti Lamprhey February 13th 08 07:33 PM

Freesat To Start...
 
"Mizter T" wrote...

If C4 ever gets given any licence fee money (not sure whether they
should or not myself but that's another debate) then I think they
really would be expected to be on Freesat. Anyway, time will tell what
happens with regards to C4 and C5 on Freesat - hopefully they'll be on
it by the year's end.


I expect they're holding out for licence money before satellizing
themselves.

Matti




Brian McIlwrath February 13th 08 08:19 PM

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Ben wrote:

: Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start
: actively promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.

There are starting to be rumours in the Digitalspy forums that Freesat
may be delayed for 6 months or so as (a) Sagem have pulled out of making
the entry level STB (b) Humax have only prototypes of their HD PVR (which is
the *ONLY* licensed HD-PVR!!!) as yet and (c) Potential dish installers want
more than is being offered!

Nothing definitive yet but I think it is adding up to a significant delay
being very likely!

Brian W February 13th 08 09:41 PM

Freesat To Start...
 

"Ben" wrote in message
...
Brian W wrote:

Agreed. Lack of Channel 4 and Five will kill the system before it starts
IMO.


Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start actively
promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.


Many people will not be aware that these free channels are not available on
a free TV service, in fact many will assume that they will get all the
current Freeview channels.
Not everyone is savvy enough to know that Ch4 and Five are encrypted. I'm
sure retailers won't go out of their way to tell potential customers that
they won't get these two channels. It will lead to lots of confusion and
annoyance I think.


Adrian[_3_] February 13th 08 10:35 PM

Freesat To Start...
 
Brian W wrote:
"Ben" wrote in message
...
Brian W wrote:

Agreed. Lack of Channel 4 and Five will kill the system before it
starts IMO.


Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start
actively promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.


Many people will not be aware that these free channels are not
available on a free TV service, in fact many will assume that they
will get all the current Freeview channels.
Not everyone is savvy enough to know that Ch4 and Five are encrypted.
I'm sure retailers won't go out of their way to tell potential
customers that they won't get these two channels. It will lead to
lots of confusion and annoyance I think.


I imagine a lot of the retailers staff wouldn't know either, a case of the
blind leeding the blind.



Ivan February 13th 08 11:04 PM

Freesat To Start...
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Brian W wrote:
"Ben" wrote in message
...
Brian W wrote:

Agreed. Lack of Channel 4 and Five will kill the system before it
starts IMO.

Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start
actively promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.


Many people will not be aware that these free channels are not
available on a free TV service, in fact many will assume that they
will get all the current Freeview channels.
Not everyone is savvy enough to know that Ch4 and Five are encrypted.
I'm sure retailers won't go out of their way to tell potential
customers that they won't get these two channels. It will lead to
lots of confusion and annoyance I think.


I imagine a lot of the retailers staff wouldn't know either, a case of the
blind leeding the blind.


Virgin 1 flashed up a message this evening on Freeview informing Sky viewers
that they were moving to channel 121, perhaps the reallocation of satellite
channels in anticipation of Freesat it has started?



Mark Carver February 13th 08 11:13 PM

Freesat To Start...
 
Ivan wrote:

Virgin 1 flashed up a message this evening on Freeview informing Sky
viewers that they were moving to channel 121, perhaps the reallocation
of satellite channels in anticipation of Freesat it has started?


Must be something else. Sky EPG positions are in no way influenced by
transponder frequencies and parameters. The two are totally independent.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Brian W February 13th 08 11:19 PM

Freesat To Start...
 

"Ivan" wrote in message
. ..

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Brian W wrote:
"Ben" wrote in message
...
Brian W wrote:

Agreed. Lack of Channel 4 and Five will kill the system before it
starts IMO.

Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start
actively promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.

Many people will not be aware that these free channels are not
available on a free TV service, in fact many will assume that they
will get all the current Freeview channels.
Not everyone is savvy enough to know that Ch4 and Five are encrypted.
I'm sure retailers won't go out of their way to tell potential
customers that they won't get these two channels. It will lead to
lots of confusion and annoyance I think.


I imagine a lot of the retailers staff wouldn't know either, a case of
the blind leeding the blind.


Virgin 1 flashed up a message this evening on Freeview informing Sky
viewers that they were moving to channel 121, perhaps the reallocation of
satellite channels in anticipation of Freesat it has started?

Virgin 1 is taking Bravo's EPG numbers on Sky, it's got nothing to do with
Freesat. Virgin 1 is encrypted on satellite anyway, and is part of the Sky
Variety mix.


Mr & Mrs L February 14th 08 12:37 AM

Freesat To Start...
 


"Vortex2" wrote in message
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"Mr & Mrs L" wrote in message
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
On Feb 12, 7:52 am, "Chris" wrote:
...When?

Here we are, less than three weeks away from the supposed start date,
and we
know nothing about what STBs will be available or even, when!

I did hear that Humax were going to be making Freesat STBs, but they
refused
to tell me ANYTHING over the phone, and said "I must wait until the
press
release". They wouldn't even tell me when that was likely to be.

Come on guys, somebody on this group must know something!

'Easter' was the date I think ? 6 weeks away. However you're right,
nothing yet.

ISTR Humax, Panny, and Alba were the three manufacturers lined up, and
Argos as one of the retailers. There's nothing in their phone book
sized Spring catalogue.

I'm holding out for a Dual tuner freesat PCIe card supported by Microsoft
for use in Vista Media Center.


Well you need one of these then:

http://shop.blackgold.tv/product/3540.html

Vista, Freeview and DVB-S all in one.

Looks like the dogs' to me. Anybody tried one?


D

Yep already bookmarked that one but waiting to see how if when the MCE EPG
will work with Freeview Freesat.



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