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HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
On Feb 2, 9:05 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
In article , "HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote: 'Nuf said.... ;-) I'm curious as to why people take such vehement stands on this--as if it's a political debate or something. Why does someone violently insist on one side or the other? Exuberant dominance. And by the way: HD-DVD is dead!. Shout it from the rooftops so that the remaining holdouts (Universal et al) get the message and switch to the one true format. Cheers, Alan |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message ... In article , "HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote: 'Nuf said.... ;-) I'm curious as to why people take such vehement stands on this--as if it's a political debate or something. Why does someone violently insist on one side or the other? Ask a psychiatrist. Alot of people have no identity in the world, no life or title. They are insecure and feel left out and un-noticed so they associate themselves with something. Something that makes them feel they are part of something even though they really had nothing do with it at all. Drugs, Booze, Hip Hip, A Football Team, A Rockband, Video Games, Some Brand name, corporate company, you name it could be almost anything. Marketers love these people and call them Brand Loyalists. They know with some clever manipulation they will go out and do free marketing for some brand name. Kids and teens are mostly susceptible to this phenomena because they have not established themselves in society and are still mentally immature. What peers think of them and being part of some crowd is important. As most people grow up and mature they don't care anymore. Most of your friends you had in your teens are no longer your friends. You have made new and better ones. Educated people tend to divert from Brand association as well because they simply know better. GMC vs. Ford vs. Dodge. Xbox vs. PS3 Apple vs. PC Blue Ray vs. HD-DVD Giants vs. Patriots. World Of Warcraft WWF Character Star Wars vs. Star Trek The list is endless |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:05:01 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote: I'm curious as to why people take such vehement stands on this--as if it's a political debate or something. Why does someone violently insist on one side or the other? He's just a troll... A_C |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
Most Blue-Rays will be dead after a short while too!
========================================== "HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message . .. 'Nuf said.... ;-) |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:05:01 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
| In article , | "HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote: | | 'Nuf said.... | | ;-) | | I'm curious as to why people take such vehement stands on this--as if | it's a political debate or something. | | Why does someone violently insist on one side or the other? Why is there an assumption that the OP was taking one particular stand? Because of that forged domain (that isn't even registered? Maybe it is the case that had BR-DVD died and HD-DVD took over, that he'd have done the reverse and faked a different domain and still partied. Maybe the party is more about (the perception of) the format war being over. I can tell you why I preferred BluRay. It is simply capacity. In part it was capacity for computer usage. But it was also for video. Either I could get 66% more video time at the same compression, or the video would not have to be compressed as much (use a higher bit rate per frame and have fewer B/P frames). A lot of what I buy on DVD is old TV shows. A box set for one year/season is 5 DVDs for hour long episodes. While these might never come out in high definition, some later TV series some day might. Or maybe technology can clean up original films and get more definition from them than SD ever could. At there been a battle between the original DVD and one that had 66% more capacity, I see it as the difference between 5 DVDs in the set box and 3 DVDs. Actually I'm hoping that when BluRay becomes widespread and cheap everywhere, they will put the entire season on one disc. BluRay can do that since it is about 5 times the capacity of SD-DVD. But some of my preference for BluRay has also been muted. I'm shifting more towards flash memory for a lot of computer purposes. It has been more reliable than optical disks, and is a lot more convenient. It still has a huge cost issue. It has its own "format war" but capacity is not a component in that. That, and I have learned the licensing terms for BluRay are more difficult, and require more intrusive DRM and such, even for content the owner has no intent to apply any such restrictions to. As the internet speeds increase (and especially if the USA reverses its backwards business models for telecommunications services and brings its own broadband connectivity quality up to the levels many other countries now have) more people will get their content that way instead of on a disc medium. They will then store that content on hard drive or flash media. The optical disk, being limited in capacity in any given standard, wil be more and more inconvenient. When it is no longer profitable to distribute content on optical discs (whether sold or rented), then that media will die, despite some people still willing to record their own on it. I still put a DVD player/recorder in my newest computer (I build my own). But it has a flash card reader/writer, as well as front panel USB ports. But I certainly thought about the day in the not too distant future where I will decline to put in a CD/DVD drive, like I do now for floppies. -- |---------------------------------------/----------------------------------| | Phil Howard KA9WGN (ka9wgn.ham.org) / Do not send to the address below | | first name lower case at ipal.net / | |------------------------------------/-------------------------------------| |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
By the time Beta Ray is affordable to copy and author your own it will be
replaced by Flash memory or something. It will also be on profile 4.0 or something with even more DRM. That was the whole point with HD-DVD, it was consumer-copy friendly, within reason, Not DRM soaked to the bone. That is the only reason Fox did not go HD-DVD other than the money. 51GB HD-DVD disks are approved and finalized and on the way hopefully anf being that it's HD-DVD you know they will work off that bat. I know people that copy Blu Ray and HD-DVD movies to hard drives or stream them to their Media boxes, Xbox 360's-PS3 from their PC's. I have not taken the time to learn it yet. Agreed optical as a format is unreliable and on the way out. A few more years I give it then we'll be using Nintendo DS/size ROM Flash memory with 100+ GB storage or some sort of solid state drives. wrote in message ... On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:05:01 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: | In article , | "HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote: | | 'Nuf said.... | | ;-) | | I'm curious as to why people take such vehement stands on this--as if | it's a political debate or something. | | Why does someone violently insist on one side or the other? Why is there an assumption that the OP was taking one particular stand? Because of that forged domain (that isn't even registered? Maybe it is the case that had BR-DVD died and HD-DVD took over, that he'd have done the reverse and faked a different domain and still partied. Maybe the party is more about (the perception of) the format war being over. I can tell you why I preferred BluRay. It is simply capacity. In part it was capacity for computer usage. But it was also for video. Either I could get 66% more video time at the same compression, or the video would not have to be compressed as much (use a higher bit rate per frame and have fewer B/P frames). A lot of what I buy on DVD is old TV shows. A box set for one year/season is 5 DVDs for hour long episodes. While these might never come out in high definition, some later TV series some day might. Or maybe technology can clean up original films and get more definition from them than SD ever could. At there been a battle between the original DVD and one that had 66% more capacity, I see it as the difference between 5 DVDs in the set box and 3 DVDs. Actually I'm hoping that when BluRay becomes widespread and cheap everywhere, they will put the entire season on one disc. BluRay can do that since it is about 5 times the capacity of SD-DVD. But some of my preference for BluRay has also been muted. I'm shifting more towards flash memory for a lot of computer purposes. It has been more reliable than optical disks, and is a lot more convenient. It still has a huge cost issue. It has its own "format war" but capacity is not a component in that. That, and I have learned the licensing terms for BluRay are more difficult, and require more intrusive DRM and such, even for content the owner has no intent to apply any such restrictions to. As the internet speeds increase (and especially if the USA reverses its backwards business models for telecommunications services and brings its own broadband connectivity quality up to the levels many other countries now have) more people will get their content that way instead of on a disc medium. They will then store that content on hard drive or flash media. The optical disk, being limited in capacity in any given standard, wil be more and more inconvenient. When it is no longer profitable to distribute content on optical discs (whether sold or rented), then that media will die, despite some people still willing to record their own on it. I still put a DVD player/recorder in my newest computer (I build my own). But it has a flash card reader/writer, as well as front panel USB ports. But I certainly thought about the day in the not too distant future where I will decline to put in a CD/DVD drive, like I do now for floppies. -- |---------------------------------------/----------------------------------| | Phil Howard KA9WGN (ka9wgn.ham.org) / Do not send to the address below | | first name lower case at ipal.net / | |------------------------------------/-------------------------------------| |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
"George" wrote in message news:Tg%[email protected] "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message ... In article , "HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote: 'Nuf said.... ;-) I'm curious as to why people take such vehement stands on this--as if it's a political debate or something. Why does someone violently insist on one side or the other? Ask a psychiatrist. Alot of people have no identity in the world, no life or title. They are insecure and feel left out and un-noticed so they associate themselves with something. Something that makes them feel they are part of something even though they really had nothing do with it at all. Drugs, Booze, Hip Hip, A Football Team, A Rockband, Video Games, Some Brand name, corporate company, you name it could be almost anything. Marketers love these people and call them Brand Loyalists. They know with some clever manipulation they will go out and do free marketing for some brand name. Kids and teens are mostly susceptible to this phenomena because they have not established themselves in society and are still mentally immature. What peers think of them and being part of some crowd is important. As most people grow up and mature they don't care anymore. Most of your friends you had in your teens are no longer your friends. You have made new and better ones. Educated people tend to divert from Brand association as well because they simply know better. GMC vs. Ford vs. Dodge. Xbox vs. PS3 Apple vs. PC Blue Ray vs. HD-DVD Giants vs. Patriots. World Of Warcraft WWF Character Star Wars vs. Star Trek The list is endless What a party pooper. Didn't you ever play with little plastic army men when a kid? Identity transference is 'fun', that's all. Nothing so serious as you make it...but can give purpose to getting out of bed in the morning. What else do all them Green Bay denizens have to cheer about freezing their arses off except some green and gold clad football team. We all do it. In our God, country, region, local ball team...and yes, even the inanimate things like cars and HDTV brands. The list IS endless indeed...open ended I would "imagine". I think it's a kind of neat attribute of the human psyche myself. We could fall in love with robots [and some day might]. And all them psychs you allude to...aren't they really just nihilist anarchists, one and all, replete with their own delusions of grandeur found in intellectualism? We all want to rule the world. Most of us just play at it. |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
I would never buy a Sony product. As you remember, they put spy ware in
their music CD's and I will not forgive them for infecting my computer. "HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message . .. 'Nuf said.... ;-) |
HD-DVD is dead, dead, DEAD............let the party begin!!!
It has really nothing to do with any sense of loyalty to Sony for me (and
many others). It's just that Microsoft tends to only get into a market so they can cause a disruption, and then proceed to monopolize everyone else out of business. Then they proceed to innovate/improve the product line as slowly as possible, if at all, and try to sue anyone that attempts to reintroduce competition. See Windows vs Linux. It's not so much Sony loyalty, as it is Microsoft antiloyalty. If the other console were made by Sega, I would buy that. Not that I have any problem admitting that I am actually glad it's Sony, since they do make high-quality products, but it's much more about not supporting Microsoft's greedy business model than any sense of "OMG, Snoy is teh bestestest evars!!11". Sony does the same thing, so does Electronic Arts, Exxon, Wal Mart, Intel, Nvidia, Google, Apple..so does any company. Get big and eat-kill competition. Sony has been pushing it's proprietary formats, DRM and rootkits for years now they finally got a winner with Beta Ray. For now anyway it won't last like DVD did tech is moving to fast these days. At least Bill Gates is taking 90% of that money and doing some good with it in the world over then next few decades, Sony would never do that. On the other hand Bill Gates himself has more money than Sony ever will have that rich SOB lol. Microsoft competes with other rich people and companies, they are no different. It's just the poor people who watch TV and read the Internet gossip that have all the morals :) We would never act like that, heavens no! |
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