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"Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of What does having a digital tuner have to do with it being compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin? NOTHING! More Aggy ignorance! If you have a Freeview box connected to a recorder with an analogue tuner, how do you think you are going to watch one Freeview channel whilst recording another? Look at the IGNORANT talking about things he knows nothing about. How is a video recorder with a digital tuner which picks up Freeview going to enable you to watch another channel on Sky or Virgin. Just because it's got a digital tuner doesn't mean it will give you cable or satellite capability if all the tuner picks up is Freeview. your choice into the recorder using a scart lead. It can then record the digital channel of your choice without having to change any settings on the receiver itself, thus enabling you to record one digital channel whilst watching another. Without out changing any of the settings? So it can change channels on the receiver of your choice all by itself? How? No it doesn't. In the same way that a recorder with an analogue tuner will let you record any terrestrial channel without you having to change channels on your TV set, a recorder with a digital tuner lets you record any channel from your receiver without having to change the channel that it outputs to your TV. You are talking COMPLETE AND UTTER NONSENSE! A Freeview tuner will NOT let you watch Sky or Virgin let alone decode them. You need a satellite tuner and a dish to watch Sky and a Videocrypt decoder to decode the scrambled channels or a Virgin tuner to watch cable with a built in decoder to decode the scrambled channels. All three digital platforms a completely incompatible with each other in terms of tuning into and descrambling the channels therefore a single digital tuner on your video recorder will not let give you a choice of picking up either Freeview, Sky or Virgin. Also makes it incredibly easy to record a programme, because the channel guide and programme schedule are available on the recorder. So all you have to do is select the programme you want to record direct from the guide. Oh so the Sky EPG is available on the recorder, or is it the Virgin EPG or the Freeview one, all because it has a digital tuner? Will it work with my dads satellite motorised satellite dish too so it can point it at the right satellite the channels are on, like HellasSat 2? There is no such piece of equipment on the market. The best you can do is use the STB to control the recorder but the recorder will not control the STB of your choice just because it has a digital tuner. Does it have SmartLink/Q-Link or something similar built in? Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. |
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Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. -- Paul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ |
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Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. Diane L. |
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On 27 Jan, 01:43, "Agamemnon" wrote:
A Freeview tuner will NOT let you watch Sky or Virgin let alone decode them. That depends if you want to watch Virgin 1, Sky 3 or Sky sports news doesn't it. B2003 |
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On 27/01/2008 11:10, Diane L. wrote:
The OP said that the digital tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. *IF* that's how you read the OP (there is some ambiguity) then OP is wrong. The digital tuner is compatible with DVB-T. The combo-recorder will only be able to record from DVB-S or DVB-C in conjunction with the relevant STB, but the recorder's digital tuner is not involved in the process, simply an analogue input. |
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"Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of What does having a digital tuner have to do with it being compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin? NOTHING! More Aggy ignorance! If you have a Freeview box connected to a recorder with an analogue tuner, how do you think you are going to watch one Freeview channel whilst recording another? Look at the IGNORANT talking about things he knows nothing about. How is a video recorder with a digital tuner which picks up Freeview going to enable you to watch another channel on Sky or Virgin. Just because it's got a digital tuner doesn't mean it will give you cable or satellite capability if all the tuner picks up is Freeview. Look Aggy, I know you're a self proclaimed expert on everything, but the reality is that there's a gaping chasm between the things you know and the things you *think* you know. You have no understanding of the concept. I'm not going to be able to explain these things to you because you simply lack the capacity to comprehend. No matter how simply I try to explain, you continue to get it wrong. |
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"Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. I never said that. That's just Aggy confusing the issue. I said that a digital tuner means that a recorder is compatible with Sky and cable. That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. |
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On 27/01/2008 12:21, Stephen Wilson wrote:
I said that a digital tuner means that a recorder is compatible with Sky and cable. Sorry, but it doesn't. The digital tuner will only decode freeview (or more precisely DVB-T) however it *will* be able to record Sky or cable via an analogue input if fed from a Sky or cable STB. That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. Wrong! |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message ... On 27/01/2008 11:10, Diane L. wrote: The OP said that the digital tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. *IF* that's how you read the OP (there is some ambiguity) then OP is wrong. The digital tuner is compatible with DVB-T. The combo-recorder will only be able to record from DVB-S or DVB-C in conjunction with the relevant STB, but the recorder's digital tuner is not involved in the process, simply an analogue input. Aggy, as usual, has confused the issue. He's also cross-posted this thread at a point where he's cut any context that shows what I was trying (unsuccessfully) to explain to him. Here is an earlier part of the thread: Me: A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it easy to record onto video or DVD... Aggy: So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? Me: I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of your choice into the recorder using a scart lead. It can then record the digital channel of your choice without having to change any settings on the receiver itself, thus enabling you to record one digital channel whilst watching another. Also makes it incredibly easy to record a programme, because the channel guide and programme schedule are available on the recorder. So all you have to do is select the programme you want to record direct from the guide. |
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Stephen Wilson wrote:
Me: A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it easy to record onto video or DVD... Aggy: So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? Me: I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of your choice into the recorder using a scart lead. It can then record the digital channel of your choice without having to change any settings on the receiver itself, thus enabling you to record one digital channel whilst watching another. Also makes it incredibly easy to record a programme, because the channel guide and programme schedule are available on the recorder. So all you have to do is select the programme you want to record direct from the guide. It has a digital tuner, this will only be able to receive DVB-T transmissions (aka DTT, aka (in the UK, Freeview)). If it has a Scart input you can indeed record satellite, cable, or anything else that outputs a CCIR 625/50 standard baseband video signal. The in built digital tuner does nothing to enable that functionality however. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On 27/01/2008 12:43, Stephen Wilson wrote:
Aggy, as usual, has confused the issue. He's also cross-posted this thread at a point where he's cut any context that shows what I was trying (unsuccessfully) to explain to him. Here is an earlier part of the thread: I did give you the benefit of the doubt over the ambiguity in what I saw quoted. Me: A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it easy to record onto video or DVD... The digital tuner does make it compatible with Freeview, however it does nothing to make it (any more or any less) compatible with Sky or Virgin. Aggy: So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? Me: I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. I think you are the source of the confusion, the box as a whole is compatible with Sky or Virgin *when plugged into one of their boxes* but this is not a feature of its digital tuner. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of your choice into the recorder using a scart lead. It can then record the digital channel of your choice without having to change any settings on the receiver itself, thus enabling you to record one digital channel whilst watching another. ok, yes it can, but it is the recorders scart input which is providing this facility, not the digital tuner as you seem(ed) to be saying. |
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wrote: "Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. I never said that. That's just Aggy confusing the issue. I said that a digital tuner means that a recorder is compatible with Sky and cable. That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. I think not. A 'tuner' tunes to something. The output of a Sky box or cable box, does not need tuning - that is what those devices do themselves. If the recorder has a video input connection (probably SCART) then it can record from a a Sky or cable box. Not all recorders have the necessary digital encoders to permit recording from outside sources. The tuner part will be for DV-T where it "tunes" to various channels and then records them. -- From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message ... On 27/01/2008 12:21, Stephen Wilson wrote: I said that a digital tuner means that a recorder is compatible with Sky and cable. Sorry, but it doesn't. The digital tuner will only decode freeview (or more precisely DVB-T) however it *will* be able to record Sky or cable via an analogue input if fed from a Sky or cable STB. That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. Wrong! So perhaps you have another explanation for the way I managed watch Virgin 1 on the television at the same time that I was recording Sci-Fi, with only one source of input - a Virgin STB. You don't even have to take my word for it. Try http://www.ricability-digitaltv.org....it-choices.htm "Digital TV recorders (or PVRs) record on to their hard disc drive (HDD) and give a good quality picture - in fact it should be identical to the original broadcast. They are usually the easiest type of recorder to use. They have the advantage over VCRs in that each recording is automatically indexed on the disc, saving you all that trial and error fast winding of tapes. A digital TV recorder with twin tuners can be used to record one digital programme while you watch another. One with a single tuner can do this only if used in conjunction with a set top box or iDTV, which brings its own second tuner to the mix." |
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On 27/01/2008 13:49, Stephen Wilson wrote:
"Andy Burns" wrote: On 27/01/2008 12:21, Stephen Wilson wrote: That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. Wrong! So perhaps you have another explanation for the way I managed watch Virgin 1 on the television at the same time that I was recording Sci-Fi, with only one source of input - a Virgin STB. "it" (the recorder) may have *recorded* Sci-Fi, but the "it" doing the *tuning* was your Virgin STB, not the recorder. Was Virgin1 tuned by the recorder's freeview tuner, or your TV? You don't even have to take my word for it. Look, I know what you are trying to say, unfortunately you are saying it such a way to confuse all around you, then you blame them when they try to correct you. "Digital TV recorders (or PVRs) record on to their hard disc drive (HDD) and give a good quality picture A digital TV recorder with twin tuners can be used to record one digital programme while you watch another. I know ... I've built one ... |
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On 27/01/2008 13:49, Stephen Wilson wrote:
On 27/01/2008 12:21, Stephen Wilson wrote: That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. So perhaps you have another explanation Just to clarify, "it" is not capable of tuning all the available Sky/Virgin channels independently, "it" is wholly DEPENDANT on the STB doing the tuning. |
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"Diane L." wrote:
Paul Heslop wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. Diane L. Oh good, I got it half right :O) I didn't see the OP, just Aggie's post. -- Paul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ |
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Stephen Wilson wrote:
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. I never said that. That's just Aggy confusing the issue. I said that a digital tuner means that a recorder is compatible with Sky and cable. That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. Well, mine isn't, and none of mine have been. You can only record from sky vie AV/scart sockets, you can't tune in any channels. -- Paul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ |
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In article , Stephen Wilson wrote: "Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. I never said that. That's just Aggy confusing the issue. I said that a digital tuner means that a recorder is compatible with Sky and cable. That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. I think not. A 'tuner' tunes to something. The output of a Sky box or cable box, does not need tuning - that is what those devices do themselves. If the recorder has a video input connection (probably SCART) then it can record from a a Sky or cable box. that's it -- Paul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:21:42 GMT, "Stephen Wilson"
wrote: "Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. I never said that. That's just Aggy confusing the issue. I said that a digital tuner means that a recorder is compatible with Sky and cable. That means that if you plug you Sky box or your cable box into the recorder, it is capable of tuning into all the available channels independently of the Syy/cable/Freeview box. Can you recommend the make and model, it sounds like just what I need. |
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"Diane L." wrote in message ... Paul Heslop wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has BULL****. That is exactly what the OP was implying and you are another IGNORANT just like him. problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital No, it's you that have problems with English and every other language. tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. He said NOTING OF THE KIND! I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. No he wasn't. Diane L. |
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"Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... On 27/01/2008 11:10, Diane L. wrote: The OP said that the digital tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. *IF* that's how you read the OP (there is some ambiguity) then OP is wrong. The digital tuner is compatible with DVB-T. The combo-recorder will only be able to record from DVB-S or DVB-C in conjunction with the relevant STB, but the recorder's digital tuner is not involved in the process, simply an analogue input. Aggy, as usual, has confused the issue. He's also cross-posted this thread Aggie, as usual, has shown that you know NOTHING! at a point where he's cut any context that shows what I was trying (unsuccessfully) to explain to him. Here is an earlier part of the thread: Me: A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it easy to record onto video or DVD... Aggy: So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? Me: I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of your choice into the recorder using a scart lead. It can then record the digital channel of your choice without having to change any settings on the receiver itself, thus enabling you to record one digital channel whilst watching another. Also makes it incredibly easy to record a programme, because the channel guide and programme schedule are available on the recorder. So all you have to do is select the programme you want to record direct from the guide. |
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"Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Diane L." wrote in message ... Paul Heslop wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has BULL****. That is exactly what the OP was implying and you are another IGNORANT just like him. problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital No, it's you that have problems with English and every other language. tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. He said NOTING OF THE KIND! I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. No he wasn't. Diane L. This exchange reminds me of a barney that took place in the 1960s between the Polish workshop manager and some of the engineers in a TV repair shop. The manager was a remnant of WWII and he had never really learnt English. Finally he yelled, "You *******s tink I know **** notting! I tell you I know **** all!" Bill |
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"Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of What does having a digital tuner have to do with it being compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin? NOTHING! More Aggy ignorance! If you have a Freeview box connected to a recorder with an analogue tuner, how do you think you are going to watch one Freeview channel whilst recording another? Look at the IGNORANT talking about things he knows nothing about. How is a video recorder with a digital tuner which picks up Freeview going to enable you to watch another channel on Sky or Virgin. Just because it's got a digital tuner doesn't mean it will give you cable or satellite capability if all the tuner picks up is Freeview. Look Aggy, I know you're a self proclaimed expert on everything, but the reality is that there's a gaping chasm between the things you know and the things you *think* you know. The reality is that you are an IGNORANT and you have been proven to be so by every reply to this thread. You have no understanding of the concept. I'm not going to be able to explain these things to you because you simply lack the capacity to You can't explain these things because you are completely IGNORANT of them. comprehend. No matter how simply I try to explain, you continue to get it wrong. You might think you know something about something but in reality you know NOTHING! |
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I prefer combo VHS/DVD for now.
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-- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" wrote in message ... I prefer combo VHS/DVD for now. -- Member - Liberal International This is Ici God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Born 29 Jan 1969 Redhill Surrey England |
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On 27/01/2008 20:54, The Doctor wrote:
I prefer combo VHS/DVD for now. Why don't you travel forwards to a time where you prefer HDTV/BD-RE? |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Diane L." wrote in message ... Paul Heslop wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has BULL****. That is exactly what the OP was implying and you are another IGNORANT just like him. problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital No, it's you that have problems with English and every other language. tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. He said NOTING OF THE KIND! I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. No he wasn't. Diane L. This exchange reminds me of a barney that took place in the 1960s between the Polish workshop manager and some of the engineers in a TV repair shop. The manager was a remnant of WWII and he had never really learnt English. Finally he yelled, "You *******s tink I know **** notting! I tell you I know **** all!" A dustman knocks on a Japanese man's door. The Japanese man opens it and says "Harro, what you want?" The dustman asks "Where's your bin?" "I bin on loo," says the Japanese man. "No mate, where's ya dustbin?" the dustman tries again. "I dust bin on loo!" comes the reply. "No, no - where your wheelie bin?" "Hokay, I wheelie bin having a wank!" |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:33:09 GMT, "Stephen Wilson"
wrote: "Bill Wright" wrote in message .. . "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Diane L." wrote in message ... Paul Heslop wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has BULL****. That is exactly what the OP was implying and you are another IGNORANT just like him. problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital No, it's you that have problems with English and every other language. tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. He said NOTING OF THE KIND! I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. No he wasn't. Diane L. This exchange reminds me of a barney that took place in the 1960s between the Polish workshop manager and some of the engineers in a TV repair shop. The manager was a remnant of WWII and he had never really learnt English. Finally he yelled, "You *******s tink I know **** notting! I tell you I know **** all!" A dustman knocks on a Japanese man's door. The Japanese man opens it and says "Harro, what you want?" The dustman asks "Where's your bin?" "I bin on loo," says the Japanese man. "No mate, where's ya dustbin?" the dustman tries again. "I dust bin on loo!" comes the reply. "No, no - where your wheelie bin?" "Hokay, I wheelie bin having a wank!" Tee Hee = IF |
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"Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of What does having a digital tuner have to do with it being compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin? NOTHING! More Aggy ignorance! If you have a Freeview box connected to a recorder with an analogue tuner, how do you think you are going to watch one Freeview channel whilst recording another? Look at the IGNORANT talking about things he knows nothing about. How is a video recorder with a digital tuner which picks up Freeview going to enable you to watch another channel on Sky or Virgin. Just because it's got a digital tuner doesn't mean it will give you cable or satellite capability if all the tuner picks up is Freeview. Look Aggy, I know you're a self proclaimed expert on everything, but the reality is that there's a gaping chasm between the things you know and the things you *think* you know. The reality is that you are an IGNORANT and you have been proven to be so by every reply to this thread. Not particularly. This thread has proved that you didn't understand what I was talking about. Come on then Aggy - give me your explanation for how this works. One source of signal - the Virgin STB. This is plugged into both the DVD recorder and the television. One programme is being recorded by the DVD player, another programme on a different channel is being watched on the TV. The EPG is displayed by the menu on the DVD recorder. Click on the programme you want to record using the programme menu guide accessed via the DVD recorder. The DVD recorder manages to record the correct programme on the correct channel without me having to touch the Virgin STB. |
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"Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... A friend of mine has just bought a Combo VHS/DVD recorder. Built-in digital tuner as well so it's compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin. Makes it So you are claiming it can pick up Satellite, Cable and Freeview. How? I said it is compatible. Maybe this is another word you don't understand the meaning of. The recorder has a digital tuner. So you plug the receiver of What does having a digital tuner have to do with it being compatible with Freeview, Sky and Virgin? NOTHING! More Aggy ignorance! If you have a Freeview box connected to a recorder with an analogue tuner, how do you think you are going to watch one Freeview channel whilst recording another? Look at the IGNORANT talking about things he knows nothing about. How is a video recorder with a digital tuner which picks up Freeview going to enable you to watch another channel on Sky or Virgin. Just because it's got a digital tuner doesn't mean it will give you cable or satellite capability if all the tuner picks up is Freeview. Look Aggy, I know you're a self proclaimed expert on everything, but the reality is that there's a gaping chasm between the things you know and the things you *think* you know. The reality is that you are an IGNORANT and you have been proven to be so by every reply to this thread. Not particularly. This thread has proved that you didn't understand what I was talking about. WRONG. It proved that you don't understand what you are talking about. Everyone else knows it was codswallop. Come on then Aggy - give me your explanation for how this works. One source of signal - the Virgin STB. This is plugged into both the DVD recorder and the television. One programme is being recorded by the DVD player, another programme on a different channel is being watched on the TV. The EPG is displayed by the menu on the DVD recorder. Click on the programme you want to record using the programme menu guide accessed via the DVD recorder. The DVD recorder manages to record the correct programme on the correct channel without me having to touch the Virgin STB. The Virgin box is plugged into the DVD recorders analogue input and you are using your Virgin remote to select the channel on the Virgin box and tell the DVD recorder to record using Smart Link/Q Link or an active SCART pin or whatever method your Virgin box uses to activate a recorder to record. |
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"Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... Come on then Aggy - give me your explanation for how this works. One source of signal - the Virgin STB. This is plugged into both the DVD recorder and the television. One programme is being recorded by the DVD player, another programme on a different channel is being watched on the TV. The EPG is displayed by the menu on the DVD recorder. Click on the programme you want to record using the programme menu guide accessed via the DVD recorder. The DVD recorder manages to record the correct programme on the correct channel without me having to touch the Virgin STB. The Virgin box is plugged into the DVD recorders analogue input and you are using your Virgin remote to select the channel on the Virgin box and tell the DVD recorder to record using Smart Link/Q Link or an active SCART pin or whatever method your Virgin box uses to activate a recorder to record. Incorrect. There is a single lead connecting the Virgin box to the DVD recorder - a scart lead. I'm selecting the channel I want to watch on the Virgin box. I'm selecting the channel I want to record on the DVD recorder. |
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Stephen Wilson wrote:
Incorrect. There is a single lead connecting the Virgin box to the DVD recorder - a scart lead. I'm selecting the channel I want to watch on the Virgin box. I'm selecting the channel I want to record on the DVD recorder. I don't think I've ever heard of a tuner signal being carried by scart. so what model recorder was this again? -- Paul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ |
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"Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Stephen Wilson wrote: Incorrect. There is a single lead connecting the Virgin box to the DVD recorder - a scart lead. I'm selecting the channel I want to watch on the Virgin box. I'm selecting the channel I want to record on the DVD recorder. I don't think I've ever heard of a tuner signal being carried by scart. so what model recorder was this again? I'm not sure - it's not mine, but a friend's which I installed. I tried plugging in the aerial but the recorder failed to find any channels when it did an autoscan. So then I plugged the Virgin V+ box in to the recorder via the scart lead, rescanned, and the recorder detected all the digital channels available via the Virgin STB. |
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On Jan 27, 11:42*pm, "Stephen Wilson"
wrote: "Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Stephen Wilson wrote: Incorrect. There is a single lead connecting the Virgin box to the DVD recorder - a scart lead. I'm selecting the channel I want to watch on the Virgin box. I'm selecting the channel I want to record on the DVD recorder. I don't think I've ever heard of a tuner signal being carried by scart. so what model recorder was this again? I'm not sure - it's not mine, but a friend's which I installed. I tried plugging in the aerial but the recorder failed to find any channels when it did an autoscan. So then I plugged the Virgin V+ box in to the recorder via the scart lead, rescanned, and the recorder detected all the digital channels available via the Virgin STB. I had that when I put in a Freeview box on my parents in laws' telly. I must have wasted about an hour trying to get the bloody thing to work via the co-ax cable. Regards Ged |
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"Stephen Wilson" wrote in message ... "Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Stephen Wilson wrote: Incorrect. There is a single lead connecting the Virgin box to the DVD recorder - a scart lead. I'm selecting the channel I want to watch on the Virgin box. I'm selecting the channel I want to record on the DVD recorder. I don't think I've ever heard of a tuner signal being carried by scart. so what model recorder was this again? I'm not sure - it's not mine, but a friend's which I installed. I tried plugging in the aerial but the recorder failed to find any channels when it did an autoscan. So then I plugged the Virgin V+ box in to the recorder via the scart lead, rescanned, and the recorder detected all the digital channels available via the Virgin STB. If it was a Virgin+ box then it would have had two built in tuners and its own hard drive recorder. You were probably watching one channel on one tuner and recording the output from the other via analogue, that's if you were recording it on the DVD recorder and not on the Virgin+ box itself. |
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On 28/01/2008 00:00, Agamemnon wrote:
If it was a Virgin+ box then it would have had two built in tuners and its own hard drive recorder. You were probably watching one channel on one tuner and recording the output from the other via analogue, that's if you were recording it on the DVD recorder and not on the Virgin+ box itself. Yep, I think you've got to the bottom of the OP's confusion. |
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Stephen Wilson wrote: "Bill Wright" wrote in message .. . "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Diane L." wrote in message ... Paul Heslop wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has BULL****. That is exactly what the OP was implying and you are another IGNORANT just like him. problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital No, it's you that have problems with English and every other language. tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. He said NOTING OF THE KIND! I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. No he wasn't. Diane L. This exchange reminds me of a barney that took place in the 1960s between the Polish workshop manager and some of the engineers in a TV repair shop. The manager was a remnant of WWII and he had never really learnt English. Finally he yelled, "You *******s tink I know **** notting! I tell you I know **** all!" A dustman knocks on a Japanese man's door. The Japanese man opens it and says "Harro, what you want?" The dustman asks "Where's your bin?" "I bin on loo," says the Japanese man. "No mate, where's ya dustbin?" the dustman tries again. "I dust bin on loo!" comes the reply. "No, no - where your wheelie bin?" "Hokay, I wheelie bin having a wank!" Send it to alt.humor . -- Member - Liberal International This is Ici God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Born 29 Jan 1969 Redhill Surrey England |
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-- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" wrote in message ... In article , Stephen Wilson wrote: "Bill Wright" wrote in message .. . "Agamemnon" wrote in message ... "Diane L." wrote in message ... Paul Heslop wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Although having said that, there are a number of DVD recorders on the market now that have Freeview built in. So what? That doesn't make them capable of picking up Sky or Virgin or HellasSat2 or Hotbird. Aggy, the font of all knowledge, has spoken. Total ******** again, I'm afraid... You are talking out of your ARSE as usual. Am I right in thinking the OP assumes a digital tuner will allow him to receive SKY and cable? No. That's what Aggie understood but, as we all know, Aggie has BULL****. That is exactly what the OP was implying and you are another IGNORANT just like him. problems with the English language. The OP said that the digital No, it's you that have problems with English and every other language. tuner *is compatible* with Sky and cable, meaning that if you have the equipment to recieve the signals from those sources you can use the DVD recorder to record them. He said NOTING OF THE KIND! I don't think there's a machine on the market capable of this. I guess that's another thing that isn't made clear for some people, that it's a digital terrestrial tuner. Of course some people might have seen sky users mention recording to their DVD machines but that's done through an AV socket from a real SKY box. Which is what Stephen was talking about. No he wasn't. Diane L. This exchange reminds me of a barney that took place in the 1960s between the Polish workshop manager and some of the engineers in a TV repair shop. The manager was a remnant of WWII and he had never really learnt English. Finally he yelled, "You *******s tink I know **** notting! I tell you I know **** all!" A dustman knocks on a Japanese man's door. The Japanese man opens it and says "Harro, what you want?" The dustman asks "Where's your bin?" "I bin on loo," says the Japanese man. "No mate, where's ya dustbin?" the dustman tries again. "I dust bin on loo!" comes the reply. "No, no - where your wheelie bin?" "Hokay, I wheelie bin having a wank!" Send it to alt.humor . -- Member - Liberal International This is Ici God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Born 29 Jan 1969 Redhill Surrey England |
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Stephen Wilson wrote:
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message ... Stephen Wilson wrote: Incorrect. There is a single lead connecting the Virgin box to the DVD recorder - a scart lead. I'm selecting the channel I want to watch on the Virgin box. I'm selecting the channel I want to record on the DVD recorder. I don't think I've ever heard of a tuner signal being carried by scart. so what model recorder was this again? I'm not sure - it's not mine, but a friend's which I installed. I tried plugging in the aerial but the recorder failed to find any channels when it did an autoscan. So then I plugged the Virgin V+ box in to the recorder via the scart lead, rescanned, and the recorder detected all the digital channels available via the Virgin STB. I used to be able to do this with analogue cable and an analogue tuner. Then we moved from yorkshire to the north east and it wouldn't work here. My dvd recorder does not tune into my sky+ or my old sky box. -- Paul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ |
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