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....how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as ****
when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. |
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Ed wrote:
...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. Just because the "senior chap" doesn't know what *you* know doesn't make him "thick as ****". I know fcuk all about football, does that make me "thick as ****" too? Not everyone is a fountain of knowledge such as yourself! |
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"Ed" wrote in message ... ...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id never seen before. There was what looked like a normal plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug one into the other, it just fell out. WTF?? After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in. But if you've never seen one before..... -- Col Steal a spaceship and head for the sun, Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun. |
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On 25 Jan, 15:52, "^^artnada^^" wrote:
Ed wrote: ...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. Just because the "senior chap" doesn't know what *you* know doesn't make him "thick as ****". I know fcuk all about football, does that make me "thick as ****" too? Yes. Cheers Jeff |
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On Jan 25, 2:52*pm, "^^artnada^^" wrote:
Ed wrote: ...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. Just because the "senior chap" doesn't know what *you* know doesn't make him "thick as ****". I know fcuk all about football, does that make me "thick as ****" too? Not everyone is a fountain of knowledge such as yourself! It would be immediately obvious to you, even though you know nothing about football, that if all the players were wearing the same colour shirt, something was wrong. Similarly in TV world, the point of a DVD recorder is to be able to record things. A quick glance at the manual will tell you how best to connect the machine so this is possible, and that having to leave the TV on is not required. |
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"^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Ed wrote: ...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. Just because the "senior chap" doesn't know what *you* know doesn't make him "thick as ****". You'll have to excuse Ed. It's just that so seldom does he meet someone who knows less than he does about just about anything, that it goes to his head. michael adams .... I know fcuk all about football, does that make me "thick as ****" too? Not everyone is a fountain of knowledge such as yourself! |
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In article
, Ed wrote: A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! Some TVs have a 'record buss' allowing you to select source to destination. Like perhaps to dub from VCR to DVD while watching something else on the TV. Very useful feature. Which *would* mean leaving on the TV while this operation was in progress. -- *'Progress' and 'Change' are not synonyms. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Col wrote: I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id never seen before. There was what looked like a normal plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug one into the other, it just fell out. WTF?? After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in. But if you've never seen one before..... It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK sale. -- *Heart attacks... God's revenge for eating his animal friends Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Col wrote: I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id never seen before. There was what looked like a normal plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug one into the other, it just fell out. WTF?? After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in. But if you've never seen one before..... It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK sale. Well I do remember tampering with the tamper proof screw and getting nowhere, so at least that bit worked. Then I flicked the back open and clipped it in and it works fine. -- Col Steal a spaceship and head for the sun, Shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun. |
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On Jan 25, 2:44*pm, Ed wrote:
...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as sh.t when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. Real men don't read instruction manuals. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , Col wrote: I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id never seen before. There was what looked like a normal plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug one into the other, it just fell out. WTF?? After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in. But if you've never seen one before..... It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK sale. Perhaps, but increasingly they are not. We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the euro-plug and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves. Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention. -- Ron |
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Ed said the following on 25/01/2008 15:07:
On Jan 25, 2:52 pm, "^^artnada^^" wrote: Ed wrote: ...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. Just because the "senior chap" doesn't know what *you* know doesn't make him "thick as ****". I know fcuk all about football, does that make me "thick as ****" too? Not everyone is a fountain of knowledge such as yourself! It would be immediately obvious to you, even though you know nothing about football, that if all the players were wearing the same colour shirt, something was wrong. Similarly in TV world, the point of a DVD recorder is to be able to record things. A quick glance at the manual will tell you how best to connect the machine so this is possible, and that having to leave the TV on is not required. Spot the error! :-) [Ranting Simpsons TV anchor guy] "It's the word after DVD, people!" ...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. |
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Ed wrote:
....how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. He's probably thinking intuitively, taking the traditional (audio) hi-fi connections as his model. With hi-fi, the amp has to be on and switched to the source (or to "tape monitor") to make a recording from vinyl, CD or tuner - and nothing else can be done whilst the recording is being made. OK, even that could be "improved", but it rarely was. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Ed wrote: A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! Some TVs have a 'record buss' allowing you to select source to destination. Like perhaps to dub from VCR to DVD while watching something else on the TV. Very useful feature. Which *would* mean leaving on the TV while this operation was in progress. My Sony set has about four SCART inputs and a Freeview tuner, all selectable separately. On my set-up, you can certainly watch something (including a recording) whilst dubbing from either PVR or Sky+ to the DVD-R/HDD recorder. But I can understand that the set-up would confuse some. |
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Ron Lowe wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Col wrote: I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id never seen before. There was what looked like a normal plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug one into the other, it just fell out. WTF?? After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in. But if you've never seen one before..... It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK sale. Perhaps, but increasingly they are not. We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the euro-plug and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves. Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention. That's becoming quite common with mobile phone chargers and PC peripherals. |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:44:43 -0800 (PST), Ed
wrote: ...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. My parents used to have a TV set with the Freeview tuner built into it, and they always claimed that they had to have the TV on in order to record anything. I'm not sure if that really was the case, or if they just didn't know how to set it up any other way, but they seemed happy with the setup so I left them to it. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK sale. I see that the Europlug-to-UK-plug converters that are illustrated in the following page just snap shut. And yet the accompanying text says: "The product is approved to BS5733, BS1363 plug/socket features and BS1362 fuse link." There's no fuse sockets visible inside, so I guess that the fuse plugs in via the front. http://www.powerconnections.co.uk/convert_eurotouk.htm -- Dave Farrance |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:44:43 -0800 (PST), Ed wrote:
...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as **** when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together. I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to leave the TV on all night!!!!! A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD only got a signal when the TV was on! I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and resisted asking if he'd opened the manual. This is the classic mistake of not differentiating knowledge from intelligence. If you could time travel Albert Einsetein forwards from the 1950's he wouldn't have a clue about how to connect DVD players, even though he's a lot more intelligent than you. Likewise some people who know a lot of facts can be relatively low intelligence: they just regurgitate facts when they recognise a situation, but with very little "intelligent" analysis. -- .................................................. ......................... .. never trust a man who, when left alone ...... Pete Lynch . .. in a room with a tea cosy ...... Marlow, England . .. doesn't try it on (Billy Connolly) ..................................... |
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On Jan 26, 9:24 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
To be fair, some manuals seem to be written using the centre of the universe approach, in that they never acknowledge the slight but important differences one might encounter if all the system was not made by the manufacturer of the item in question....:-) Brian Who needs manuals. A fun place to start is the Which TV connection guide. Just go to www.which.co.uk and navigate to Audiovisual/Television/ Setting up your TV/TV connection wizard Click on Launch the Which TV connection wizard and have fun. http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_c...57_79271_2.jsp Cheers, vanyablue. |
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JNugent wrote:
My Sony set has about four SCART inputs and a Freeview tuner, all selectable separately. On my set-up, you can certainly watch something (including a recording) whilst dubbing from either PVR or Sky+ to the DVD-R/HDD recorder. But I can understand that the set-up would confuse some. More recent sets, although they may have a few SCARTs - have dropped a lot of configuration options to do with tuner/source signal routing, and friendly things like reassigning selected SCARTS to numbered button positions on the handset. A few weeks ago, I was investigating the manual of a LG Plasma screen. The makers had thoughtfully decided that the internal DTT tuner signal should remain just that - internal. There are many users who have TVs with multiple scart sockets, but prefer to use a cheapie push button SCART switch box, because "it just works" without fuss for them. Often it turns out the input signals are routed via the only non-RGB SCART.... :-( And then there is a band of VCR users who still wire things together using RF and ignore SCART completely... What to do? Insert "Gaelic Shrug" here -- Adrian C |
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"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Col wrote: I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id never seen before. There was what looked like a normal plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug one into the other, it just fell out. WTF?? After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in. But if you've never seen one before..... It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK sale. Perhaps, but increasingly they are not. We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the euro-plug and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves. Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention. -- Ron I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). Included in parcel (but not the camera packaging) was something that looks like a shaver adaptor for good ol UK 240v AC outlets. The spindly American thingies plug into the back (sort of) and it remains to be seen if the entire assembly will stay together when the weight of a charging battery is added. I suppose this is a long-winded way of saying if you buy on line you could well get an import that doesn't comply with UK rules and regs. Chas |
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I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id
never seen before. There was what looked like a normal plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled one of those two-pin shaver plugs. It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK sale. Perhaps, but increasingly they are not. We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the euro-plug and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves. Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention. I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). Included in parcel (but not the camera packaging) was something that looks like a shaver adaptor for good ol UK 240v AC outlets. The spindly American thingies plug into the back (sort of) and it remains to be seen if the entire assembly will stay together when the weight of a charging battery is added. I suppose this is a long-winded way of saying if you buy on line you could well get an import that doesn't comply with UK rules and regs. Chas Indeed. I also have a camera like that ( A Fuji Finepix. ) It came with a charger with fold-away US-style prongs and a shaver-style adapter for UK use. -- Ron |
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"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message ... I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). Included in parcel (but not the camera packaging) was something that looks like a shaver adaptor for good ol UK 240v AC outlets. The spindly American thingies plug into the back (sort of) and it remains to be seen if the entire assembly will stay together when the weight of a charging battery is added. I suppose this is a long-winded way of saying if you buy on line you could well get an import that doesn't comply with UK rules and regs. Chas Indeed. I also have a camera like that ( A Fuji Finepix. ) It came with a charger with fold-away US-style prongs and a shaver-style adapter for UK use. I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road. Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... "Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message ... I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). Included in parcel (but not the camera packaging) was something that looks like a shaver adaptor for good ol UK 240v AC outlets. The spindly American thingies plug into the back (sort of) and it remains to be seen if the entire assembly will stay together when the weight of a charging battery is added. I suppose this is a long-winded way of saying if you buy on line you could well get an import that doesn't comply with UK rules and regs. Chas Indeed. I also have a camera like that ( A Fuji Finepix. ) It came with a charger with fold-away US-style prongs and a shaver-style adapter for UK use. I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road. Bill :-)) Chas |
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wrote I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road. You've fitted the SatNav upside down. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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Chas Gill wrote: I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). The holes are there for a retaining device, such as a sprung ball. This will also give a better current carrying contact are. -- From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , Bill Wright wrote I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road. You've fitted the SatNav upside down. That explains why I keep getting back before I set off. Bill |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , Chas Gill wrote: I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). The holes are there for a retaining device, such as a sprung ball. This will also give a better current carrying contact are. -- From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 Well, that explains that then. One of life's great mysteries solved, thanks. I assume that sockets that don't have the sprung ball retainers are much more numerous than those that do, because just about every US (how aptly named) socket I've ever come across spits the plug out at the slightest provocation. Cheers Chas |
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In article , Kay Robinson wrote:
Real men don't read instruction manuals. True, they usually spend hours on the phone to me asking 'how do I do (whatever)?' One friend make a deliberate point of throwing all leaflets, booklets etc out with the wrapping. I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either. Rod. |
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Roderick Stewart wrote: I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either. Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day and the instructions consisted of three pages of safety warnings and half a page of actual 'how to use it'. Then a further several pages of warranty bumf and dealers worldwide. -- *Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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charles wrote:
In article , Chas Gill wrote: I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). The holes are there for a retaining device, such as a sprung ball. This will also give a better current carrying contact are. I thought they were for wrapping bare wires through. :) -- Ashley For Windsor Weather see www.snglinks.com/wx |
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message .. . I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either. I don't know why manufacturers economise on the instruction book. Getting it right adds so much perceived value to the product. Bill |
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Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Kay Robinson wrote: Real men don't read instruction manuals. True, they usually spend hours on the phone to me asking 'how do I do (whatever)?' One friend make a deliberate point of throwing all leaflets, booklets etc out with the wrapping. I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either. Rod. Half the time the instructions don't make any sense until you've worked things out for yourself. |
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Adrian wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote: In article , Kay Robinson wrote: Real men don't read instruction manuals. True, they usually spend hours on the phone to me asking 'how do I do (whatever)?' One friend make a deliberate point of throwing all leaflets, booklets etc out with the wrapping. I always read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either. Rod. Half the time the instructions don't make any sense until you've worked things out for yourself. It can take some time just to find the English section. :) -- Ashley For Windsor Weather see www.snglinks.com/wx |
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"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
... Half the time the instructions don't make any sense until you've worked things out for yourself. It can take some time just to find the English section. :) ....Insert the batteries in the backside..... -- R |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , Roderick Stewart wrote: I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either. Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless. -- Max Demian |
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In message , Max Demian
writes "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Roderick Stewart wrote: I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either. Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless. All of mine (except one, which I never use) are powerless. -- Ian |
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Ian Jackson wrote: Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless. All of mine (except one, which I never use) are powerless. Then you need to try the new little impact one from Makita. Looks like most other small powered ones but is in a totally different class. Great for screwing down loads of floorboards. Because it's impact no torque reaction to your wrist. -- *Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
It never ceases to amaze me...
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writes In article , Ian Jackson wrote: Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless. All of mine (except one, which I never use) are powerless. Then you need to try the new little impact one from Makita. Looks like most other small powered ones but is in a totally different class. Great for screwing down loads of floorboards. Because it's impact no torque reaction to your wrist. No reaction to my wrist? That doesn't sound like fun! -- Ian |
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