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Ron Lowe January 25th 08 06:09 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Col wrote:
I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id
never seen before. There was what looked like a normal
plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled
one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug
one into the other, it just fell out. WTF??
After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it
was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in.
But if you've never seen one before.....


It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw
etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK
sale.


Perhaps, but increasingly they are not.

We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line
recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the euro-plug
and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves.

Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention.

--
Ron




Richard Brooks[_2_] January 25th 08 06:18 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
Ed said the following on 25/01/2008 15:07:
On Jan 25, 2:52 pm, "^^artnada^^" wrote:
Ed wrote:
...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as ****
when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together.
I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very
senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview
onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to
leave the TV on all night!!!!!
A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player
connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD
only got a signal when the TV was on!
I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and
resisted asking if he'd opened the manual.

Just because the "senior chap" doesn't know what *you* know doesn't make him
"thick as ****".

I know fcuk all about football, does that make me "thick as ****" too?

Not everyone is a fountain of knowledge such as yourself!


It would be immediately obvious to you, even though you know nothing
about football, that if all the players were wearing the same colour
shirt, something was wrong. Similarly in TV world, the point of a DVD
recorder is to be able to record things. A quick glance at the manual
will tell you how best to connect the machine so this is possible, and
that having to leave the TV on is not required.


Spot the error! :-)

[Ranting Simpsons TV anchor guy] "It's the word after DVD, people!"

...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as ****
when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together.




JNugent[_2_] January 25th 08 06:28 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
Ed wrote:
....how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as ****
when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together.

I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very
senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview
onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to
leave the TV on all night!!!!!

A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player
connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD
only got a signal when the TV was on!

I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and
resisted asking if he'd opened the manual.


He's probably thinking intuitively, taking the traditional (audio)
hi-fi connections as his model. With hi-fi, the amp has to be on and
switched to the source (or to "tape monitor") to make a recording from
vinyl, CD or tuner - and nothing else can be done whilst the recording
is being made.

OK, even that could be "improved", but it rarely was.

JNugent[_2_] January 25th 08 06:32 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Ed wrote:


A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player
connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD
only got a signal when the TV was on!


Some TVs have a 'record buss' allowing you to select source to
destination. Like perhaps to dub from VCR to DVD while watching something
else on the TV. Very useful feature. Which *would* mean leaving on the TV
while this operation was in progress.


My Sony set has about four SCART inputs and a Freeview tuner, all
selectable separately. On my set-up, you can certainly watch something
(including a recording) whilst dubbing from either PVR or Sky+ to the
DVD-R/HDD recorder. But I can understand that the set-up would confuse
some.

JNugent[_2_] January 25th 08 06:33 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
Ron Lowe wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

In article ,
Col wrote:

I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id
never seen before. There was what looked like a normal
plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled
one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug
one into the other, it just fell out. WTF??
After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it
was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in.
But if you've never seen one before.....



It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw
etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK
sale.


Perhaps, but increasingly they are not.

We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line
recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the
euro-plug and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves.

Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention.


That's becoming quite common with mobile phone chargers and PC
peripherals.

[email protected] January 25th 08 07:15 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:44:43 -0800 (PST), Ed
wrote:

...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as ****
when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together.

I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very
senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview
onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to
leave the TV on all night!!!!!

A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player
connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD
only got a signal when the TV was on!

I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and
resisted asking if he'd opened the manual.


My parents used to have a TV set with the Freeview tuner built into
it, and they always claimed that they had to have the TV on in order
to record anything. I'm not sure if that really was the case, or if
they just didn't know how to set it up any other way, but they seemed
happy with the setup so I left them to it.

Dave Farrance January 25th 08 08:24 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw
etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK
sale.


I see that the Europlug-to-UK-plug converters that are illustrated in the
following page just snap shut. And yet the accompanying text says: "The
product is approved to BS5733, BS1363 plug/socket features and BS1362
fuse link." There's no fuse sockets visible inside, so I guess that the
fuse plugs in via the front.

http://www.powerconnections.co.uk/convert_eurotouk.htm

--
Dave Farrance

Peter Lynch January 26th 08 12:01 AM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:44:43 -0800 (PST), Ed wrote:
...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as ****
when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together.

I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very
senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview
onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to
leave the TV on all night!!!!!

A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player
connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD
only got a signal when the TV was on!

I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and
resisted asking if he'd opened the manual.


This is the classic mistake of not differentiating knowledge from
intelligence. If you could time travel Albert Einsetein forwards
from the 1950's he wouldn't have a clue about how to connect DVD
players, even though he's a lot more intelligent than you.

Likewise some people who know a lot of facts can be relatively low
intelligence: they just regurgitate facts when they recognise a
situation, but with very little "intelligent" analysis.


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.. in a room with a tea cosy ...... Marlow, England .
.. doesn't try it on (Billy Connolly) .....................................


Brian Gaff January 26th 08 10:24 AM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
To be fair, some manuals seem to be written using the centre of the universe
approach, in that they never acknowledge the slight but important
differences one might encounter if all the system was not made by the
manufacturer of the item in question....:-)

Brian

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"Ed" wrote in message
...
...how ostensibly clever and successful people can be thick as ****
when it comes to connecting TVs and DVD players together.

I just had a conversation in the kitchen here at work with a very
senior chap, who said he'd only just worked out how to record freeview
onto DVD. I was curious to ask what he meant, and he said he had to
leave the TV on all night!!!!!

A brief chat discovered he had the freeview box and dvd player
connected separately to the TV (or something like that) so the DVD
only got a signal when the TV was on!

I briefly explained how best to connect the three devices, and
resisted asking if he'd opened the manual.




[email protected] January 27th 08 09:09 PM

It never ceases to amaze me...
 
On Jan 26, 9:24 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
To be fair, some manuals seem to be written using the centre of the universe
approach, in that they never acknowledge the slight but important
differences one might encounter if all the system was not made by the
manufacturer of the item in question....:-)

Brian


Who needs manuals.
A fun place to start is the Which TV connection guide.
Just go to www.which.co.uk and navigate to Audiovisual/Television/
Setting up your TV/TV connection wizard
Click on Launch the Which TV connection wizard and have fun.

http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_c...57_79271_2.jsp

Cheers, vanyablue.



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