BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

Brian W wrote:

Many Sky Box Office channels are on 2D, along with the Disney channels
and FX +2. Sky may not have a choice, as Ch 4 is a Public Service
Broadcaster, they are likely to be required to un-encrypt (possibly
before October) and therefore move to 2D, Sky will have to accomodate
this. More4/+1 and E4/+1 are already on 2D, using the same transponder
as Film4.

D-Sat is not seen as a 'public service' broadcast platform, current
broadcasting legislation simply doesn't allow the scenario you suggest, and
I'm fairly sure it could not be adjusted to do so either.


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BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

Brian W wrote:

: Many Sky Box Office channels are on 2D, along with the Disney channels and
: FX +2. Sky may not have a choice, as Ch 4 is a Public Service Broadcaster,
: they are likely to be required to un-encrypt (possibly before October) and
: therefore move to 2D

The PSB requirement only applies terrestrially.

:Sky will have to accomodate this. More4/+1 and E4/+1

Incorrect! Sky rent transponders from SES (the satellite operators) on VERY
long term deals and only SES can request (but cannot force) channels to
switch satellites.

: are already on 2D, using the same transponder as Film4.

: "Programme rights issues" don't seem to bother BBC/ITV.

They are on 2D of course. Even so they are thought to pay a lot more for
programme rights now as well - the speculation was that, when the BBC went
FTA, that they ended up paying more than they ever paid to Sky for
encryption.

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Brian W wrote:

Many Sky Box Office channels are on 2D, along with the Disney channels
and FX +2. Sky may not have a choice, as Ch 4 is a Public Service
Broadcaster, they are likely to be required to un-encrypt (possibly
before October) and therefore move to 2D, Sky will have to accomodate
this. More4/+1 and E4/+1 are already on 2D, using the same transponder as
Film4.

D-Sat is not seen as a 'public service' broadcast platform,

Which is an inconsistency because the powers that be use DSAT as a get-out
for not providing PSB TV signals at Sandsend near Whitby.

Bill

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

Bill Wright wrote:


Many Sky Box Office channels are on 2D, along with the Disney
channels and FX +2. Sky may not have a choice, as Ch 4 is a
Public Service Broadcaster, they are likely to be required to
un-encrypt (possibly before October) and therefore move to 2D,
Sky will have to accomodate this. More4/+1 and E4/+1 are already
on 2D, using the same transponder as Film4.

D-Sat is not seen as a 'public service' broadcast platform,

Which is an inconsistency because the powers that be use DSAT as
a get-out for not providing PSB TV signals at Sandsend near Whitby.



The new band-plan for post ASO digital services has many relays operating
with 2 watts ERP output. After the Sandsend nonsense it make me wonder
how many of these relays will be built.

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

On Jan 29, 10:29 am, "m.t6" wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

D-Sat is not seen as a 'public service' broadcast platform,

Which is an inconsistency because the powers that be use DSAT as
a get-out for not providing PSB TV signals at Sandsend near Whitby.

The new band-plan for post ASO digital services has many relays operating
with 2 watts ERP output. After the Sandsend nonsense it make me wonder
how many of these relays will be built.

Well, none will be *built*, apart from the supposed 'greenfield' SFN
sites promised up England's east coast. However, you're right to ask,
I really do wonder if all 1154 existing sites will actually be
converted to DTT ?

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

m.t6 wrote in message ...
Bill Wright wrote:


Many Sky Box Office channels are on 2D, along with the Disney
channels and FX +2. Sky may not have a choice, as Ch 4 is a
Public Service Broadcaster, they are likely to be required to
un-encrypt (possibly before October) and therefore move to 2D,
Sky will have to accomodate this. More4/+1 and E4/+1 are already
on 2D, using the same transponder as Film4.

D-Sat is not seen as a 'public service' broadcast platform,

Which is an inconsistency because the powers that be use DSAT as
a get-out for not providing PSB TV signals at Sandsend near Whitby.



The new band-plan for post ASO digital services has many relays operating
with 2 watts ERP output. After the Sandsend nonsense it make me wonder
how many of these relays will be built.

I think they will quietly abandon most of them.

Bill

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

Bill Wright wrote:

Many Sky Box Office channels are on 2D, along with the Disney
channels and FX +2. Sky may not have a choice, as Ch 4 is a
Public Service Broadcaster, they are likely to be required to
un-encrypt (possibly before October) and therefore move to 2D,
Sky will have to accomodate this. More4/+1 and E4/+1 are already
on 2D, using the same transponder as Film4.

D-Sat is not seen as a 'public service' broadcast platform,

Which is an inconsistency because the powers that be use DSAT as
a get-out for not providing PSB TV signals at Sandsend near Whitby.



The new band-plan for post ASO digital services has many relays operating
with 2 watts ERP output. After the Sandsend nonsense it make me wonder
how many of these relays will be built.

I think they will quietly abandon most of them.


Your probably right Bill. In the end some of the analogue sites have been
in use for 30 years and will need new equipment hut, antenna system and
possibly a new structure. I doubt the broadcasters will be interested
in providing a service for 500 people, when they can tell them to get
Freesat or Sky instead.

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

In article , M.t6 wrote:
Your probably right Bill. In the end some of the analogue sites have been
in use for 30 years and will need new equipment hut, antenna system and
possibly a new structure. I doubt the broadcasters will be interested
in providing a service for 500 people, when they can tell them to get
Freesat or Sky instead.

Once upon a time broadcasting was a Public Service, not a business. That
was the justification for financing it through a licence, rather than some
financially competitive means. With another little bit of that
justification eroded, I wonder how long the licence can be sustained?

Rod.

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

On Jan 29, 12:16 pm, "m.t6" wrote:

Your probably right Bill. In the end some of the analogue sites have been
in use for 30 years and will need new equipment hut, antenna system and
possibly a new structure. I doubt the broadcasters will be interested
in providing a service for 500 people, when they can tell them to get
Freesat or Sky instead.

What Ofcom say is that BBC, ITV, and C4 must remain available to at
least the same number of people currently served by analogue. That's
98.5% of the UK population. To that end, all 1154 tx sites need to be
converted to DTT.

As far as the engineering goes, the structures and aerials should be
fine (albeit apart from the regular maintaince they already receive).
The idea is that for the equipment hut, a brand new one will be
prepared off site, along with new dual (analogue and digital) standard
transposers. The entire huts will be swapped at each site ahaead of
DSO, and it's then a relatively simple task on DSO night to readjust
them to DTT working.

The question is will the broadcasters be willing to pay for all of
that, and will Ofcom stand firm ? The 'Whitby' saga suggests
otherwise.

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
In article , M.t6 wrote:
Your probably right Bill. In the end some of the analogue sites have been
in use for 30 years and will need new equipment hut, antenna system and
possibly a new structure. I doubt the broadcasters will be interested
in providing a service for 500 people, when they can tell them to get
Freesat or Sky instead.

Once upon a time broadcasting was a Public Service, not a business. That
was the justification for financing it through a licence, rather than some
financially competitive means. With another little bit of that
justification eroded, I wonder how long the licence can be sustained?

Greg Dyke has ensured its survival for a few more years by persuading as
many people as possible to buy DTT set top boxes without slots for
subscription cards:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004...ting.digitaltv

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Max Demian