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Paul Ratcliffe January 24th 08 10:01 PM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:46:12 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

It's all on http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/fot/handouts.shtml and it's
something I missed out on. I take it you went?


No actually I didn't, a couple of my contacts did. If I'd known in advance
about it, I would have gone.


We didn't even bloody know about it. I found out by chance on Tuesday.
Communication is our business, eh?

Mizter T January 24th 08 11:22 PM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
On 24 Jan, 11:42, Mark Carver wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/fot/handouts/06_freesat.pdf


I'm somewhat out of date on this, but what's the latest talk/rumours
with regards to Channel 4 and Channel 5 and their various offshoot
channels going Free To Air?

I was under the possibly erroneous impression that C4's contract with
Sky didn't have that much longer to run - the contract that
encompasses both the FTV encryption of C4 and FilmFour and also places
More4 and E4 within the Sky basic subscription package.

I suppose that if the C4 and C5 channels were to go FTA then they'd
need to swap on to Astra 2D to ensure their satellite footprint was
more tightly focussed on the UK - and I haven't heard even so much as
a rumour about this. Is there space on Astra 2D for more channels, or
could another satellite provide the required tighter footprint?

[email protected] January 25th 08 12:43 AM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:46:12 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

It's all on http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/fot/handouts.shtml and it's
something I missed out on. I take it you went?

No actually I didn't, a couple of my contacts did. If I'd known in advance
about it, I would have gone.


We didn't even bloody know about it. I found out by chance on Tuesday.
Communication is our business, eh?


I didn't find out until signs went up on the day, and I work in TC! But,
as the opening hours were 9-5, it was only ever any good for office and
managerial types. In line with every other BBC internal event and
exhibition, they didn't plan for people who work even slightly odd
hours, or those who had fixed programme commitments during the days of
operation, or whatever else.

Or maybe they just didn't give a stuff.

charles January 25th 08 12:53 AM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
In article ,
wrote:
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:46:12 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

It's all on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/fot/handouts.shtml and it's
something I missed out on. I take it you went?
No actually I didn't, a couple of my contacts did. If I'd known in
advance about it, I would have gone.


We didn't even bloody know about it. I found out by chance on Tuesday.
Communication is our business, eh?


I didn't find out until signs went up on the day, and I work in TC! But,
as the opening hours were 9-5, it was only ever any good for office and
managerial types. In line with every other BBC internal event and
exhibition, they didn't plan for people who work even slightly odd
hours, or those who had fixed programme commitments during the days of
operation, or whatever else.


It just sounds like any other Research Dept Open Day. They were intended
for those outside the BBC - nowadays possibly seeking funding for future
work.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


Mark Carver January 25th 08 08:20 AM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
charles wrote:

It just sounds like any other Research Dept Open Day. They were intended
for those outside the BBC - nowadays possibly seeking funding for future
work.


Well, working for a major manufacturer of both broadcast and consumer
electronic equipment, I had no notice at all of this event, and nor did any of
my immediate colleagues. Our inboxes (real and virtual) are normally filled
with invitations to similar events from other organisations and bodies.


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Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

charles January 25th 08 09:50 AM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
charles wrote:


It just sounds like any other Research Dept Open Day. They were
intended for those outside the BBC - nowadays possibly seeking funding
for future work.


Well, working for a major manufacturer of both broadcast and consumer
electronic equipment, I had no notice at all of this event, and nor did
any of my immediate colleagues. Our inboxes (real and virtual) are
normally filled with invitations to similar events from other
organisations and bodies.


could be a plot to get nobody to come and then say "because of no public
interest, it isn't needed and can be closed."

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


Brian Gaff January 25th 08 10:36 AM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
I think the intention is to privatise by stealth and then it will be no
more and the Government can use the licence fee for nuclear weapons or spin
doctors.

Brian

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in the display name may be lost.
Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/fot/handouts/06_freesat.pdf

Thanks.

With engineering and playout being outsourced, it's amazing that the BBC
still has its own R&D department:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/index.shtml



Last I heard even that was being carved up :-(

They really don't know what jewels they have!

Richard




James[_2_] January 25th 08 11:06 AM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
charles wrote:

It just sounds like any other Research Dept Open Day. They were
intended for those outside the BBC - nowadays possibly seeking funding
for future work.


Well, working for a major manufacturer of both broadcast and consumer
electronic equipment, I had no notice at all of this event, and nor did
any of my immediate colleagues. Our inboxes (real and virtual) are
normally filled with invitations to similar events from other
organisations and bodies.


could be a plot to get nobody to come and then say "because of no public
interest, it isn't needed and can be closed."



It was a full, even Humphrey Lyttelton attended ;-)

Advertised on the BBC website.

Brian McIlwrath January 28th 08 01:34 PM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 
Mizter T wrote:

: I'm somewhat out of date on this, but what's the latest talk/rumours
: with regards to Channel 4 and Channel 5 and their various offshoot
: channels going Free To Air?

Channel 4's contract with Sky for encryption runs until Autumn 2008 sometime.
However they will need a transponder on Astra 2D to move to. Confusingly,
while all other C4 channels are uplinked by Arquiva, C4-HD is uplinked
by Sky itself on a BSkyB leased transponder.

Channel 5 "suppports Freesat" but "needs to be encrypted due to programmme
rights issues"....make of that what you can!

: a rumour about this. Is there space on Astra 2D for more channels, or
: could another satellite provide the required tighter footprint?

Yes they will need to move to Astra 2D. No!! There is not space on that
satellite without some encrypted channels using it to agree to move
elsewhere (which would be Sky helping Freesat!)

Brian W January 28th 08 10:03 PM

BBC/ITV Freesat, another tiny drop of info...
 

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
Mizter T wrote:

: I'm somewhat out of date on this, but what's the latest talk/rumours
: with regards to Channel 4 and Channel 5 and their various offshoot
: channels going Free To Air?

Channel 4's contract with Sky for encryption runs until Autumn 2008
sometime.
However they will need a transponder on Astra 2D to move to. Confusingly,
while all other C4 channels are uplinked by Arquiva, C4-HD is uplinked
by Sky itself on a BSkyB leased transponder.

Channel 5 "suppports Freesat" but "needs to be encrypted due to programmme
rights issues"....make of that what you can!

: a rumour about this. Is there space on Astra 2D for more channels, or
: could another satellite provide the required tighter footprint?

Yes they will need to move to Astra 2D. No!! There is not space on that
satellite without some encrypted channels using it to agree to move
elsewhere (which would be Sky helping Freesat!)


Many Sky Box Office channels are on 2D, along with the Disney channels and
FX +2. Sky may not have a choice, as Ch 4 is a Public Service Broadcaster,
they are likely to be required to un-encrypt (possibly before October) and
therefore move to 2D, Sky will have to accomodate this. More4/+1 and E4/+1
are already on 2D, using the same transponder as Film4.

"Programme rights issues" don't seem to bother BBC/ITV.



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