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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:54:42 -0500, "HD-DVD Suxx"
HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote:

I hope the entire planet throws a big-ass party the day HD-DVD is dead, dead,
****ing DEAD!!!! Good riddance!

VHS took years to kill off Betamax........but now Sony has sweet revenge and
HD-DVD wont even live to see the end of 2008!!!

REJOICE!

P.S. - HD-DVD is same garbage as those ****ty pay-per-view DIVX disc players
Circuit City was trying to sell a few years back

Moron.

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"Jim" jimmy AT hotmail.com wrote in
:


What causes it to become personal and starts the insults flying?

The internet/anonymity.

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"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
I hope the entire planet throws a big-ass party the day HD-DVD is dead,
dead, ****ing DEAD!!!! Good riddance!

VHS took years to kill off Betamax........but now Sony has sweet revenge
and HD-DVD wont even live to see the end of 2008!!!

REJOICE!

P.S. - HD-DVD is same garbage as those ****ty pay-per-view DIVX disc
players Circuit City was trying to sell a few years back

you need a life dude.

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"Camper" wrote in message
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"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
I hope the entire planet throws a big-ass party the day HD-DVD is dead,
dead, ****ing DEAD!!!! Good riddance!

VHS took years to kill off Betamax........but now Sony has sweet revenge
and HD-DVD wont even live to see the end of 2008!!!

REJOICE!

P.S. - HD-DVD is same garbage as those ****ty pay-per-view DIVX disc
players Circuit City was trying to sell a few years back

you need a life dude.

He has one. It consists of slinging poo at the windows behind which the
real people are pointing, laughing, and enjoying life watching the lesser
primates dance for our amusement.

steveo

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Moron


The first DVD I ever bought was "Starship Troopers" way back in 1998 when I
purchased my very first DVD-ROM 2X drive for a PC (whopping $325).

I cant say I still watch that movie very much these days, but I LOVE the fact I
can easily insert it in any DVD player and it will play just like it did on that
magical winter day back in 1998 when I saw the first DVD movie in my entire
life. In the past 10 years, I never had to worry about any of my DVD movies
becoming obsolete and unplayable.....unlike the nightmare many HD-DVD owners
will soon face!

That is the reason I want this ****ing retarded "HD format war" to end.....it's
nothing but a corporate ****ing contest and the consumers are the ones spilling
the blood for it. STOP THE MADNESS!!!!

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick this party
into high gear, mutha****as!

How big of a party should the world throw when HD-DVD is finally dead ????
 

I never have understood the emotional attachment and personal sway people show
when discussing electronic hardware.
Do they own stock in companies involved? Are they part of a competing
development team?
What causes it to become personal and starts the insults flying?



The first DVD I ever bought was "Starship Troopers" way back in 1998 when I
purchased my very first DVD-ROM 2X drive for a PC (whopping $325).

I cant say I still watch that movie very much these days, but I LOVE the fact I
can easily insert it in any DVD player and it will play just like it did on that
magical winter day back in 1998 when I saw the first DVD movie in my entire
life. In the past 10 years, I never had to worry about any of my DVD movies
becoming obsolete and unplayable.....unlike the nightmare many HD-DVD owners
will soon face!

That is the reason I want this ****ing retarded "HD format war" to end.....it's
nothing but a corporate ****ing contest and the consumers are the ones spilling
the blood for it. STOP THE MADNESS!!!!

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick this party
into high gear, mutha****as!

How big of a party should the world throw when HD-DVD is finally dead ????
 

you need a life dude



The first DVD I ever bought was "Starship Troopers" way back in 1998 when I
purchased my very first DVD-ROM 2X drive for a PC (whopping $325).

I cant say I still watch that movie very much these days, but I LOVE the fact I
can easily insert it in any DVD player and it will play just like it did on that
magical winter day back in 1998 when I saw the first DVD movie in my entire
life. In the past 10 years, I never had to worry about any of my DVD movies
becoming obsolete and unplayable.....unlike the nightmare many HD-DVD owners
will soon face!

That is the reason I want this ****ing retarded "HD format war" to end.....it's
nothing but a corporate ****ing contest and the consumers are the ones spilling
the blood for it. STOP THE MADNESS!!!!

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick this party
into high gear, mutha****as!

How big of a party should the world throw when HD-DVD isfinally dead ????
 

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:18:47 -0500, HD-DVD Suxx wrote:

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick
this party into high gear

While blu-ray is certainly king in the ring, the fight isn't over until HD-
DVD throws in the towel and there aren't any more contenders. Personally,
I don't want anything Sony makes or has it's hands into. I've seen a
couple of reviews of the HD-VMD format and I'm waiting to see how they pan
out for storage and price.

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:18:19 -0500, "HD-DVD Suxx"
HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote:

The first DVD I ever bought was "Starship Troopers" way back in 1998 when I
purchased my very first DVD-ROM 2X drive for a PC (whopping $325).

I cant say I still watch that movie very much these days, but I LOVE the fact I
can easily insert it in any DVD player and it will play just like it did on that
magical winter day back in 1998 when I saw the first DVD movie in my entire
life. In the past 10 years, I never had to worry about any of my DVD movies
becoming obsolete and unplayable.....unlike the nightmare many HD-DVD owners
will soon face!

That is the reason I want this ****ing retarded "HD format war" to end.....it's
nothing but a corporate ****ing contest and the consumers are the ones spilling
the blood for it. STOP THE MADNESS!!!!

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick this party
into high gear, mutha****as!

You're still a moron.

A_C

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:10 +0000, Wes Newell wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:18:47 -0500, HD-DVD Suxx wrote:

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick
this party into high gear

While blu-ray is certainly king in the ring, the fight isn't over until
HD- DVD throws in the towel and there aren't any more contenders.
Personally, I don't want anything Sony makes or has it's hands into.
I've seen a couple of reviews of the HD-VMD format and I'm waiting to
see how they pan out for storage and price.

Additional info. Looks like they started shipping in the US as of Jan 9.
with MSRP of $199. and 2 free movies. Bye bye blu-ray?

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/new-medium-enterprises/

http://www.nmeinc.com/

http://www.sunherald.com/447/story/289390.html

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So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray 1.2,
Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going to have one
with themselves!


****.....I hope you are kidding!

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"Kimba W Lion" kimbawlion wrote in message
...
"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote:

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick this
party
into high gear, mutha****as!

So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray 1.2,
Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going to have one
with themselves!

Don't forget about HDMI. Current version is 1.3

1.4 coming soon..and on it goes.

http://uk.cinenow.com/videos/1151-ph...sion-show-2007

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"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray 1.2,
Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going to have
one
with themselves!


****.....I hope you are kidding!

No he's not kidding, that's why it's called Beta Ray.

Profiles 1.2 and 1.3 later this year.

1.1 was just approved. ALL Beta Ray players other than the PS3 sold up till
now are non upgradable profile 1.0

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:18:47 -0500, HD-DVD Suxx wrote:

Blu-Ray has won......HD-DVD is already a fading memory so let's kick
this party into high gear

While blu-ray is certainly king in the ring, the fight isn't over until
HD-
DVD throws in the towel and there aren't any more contenders. Personally,
I don't want anything Sony makes or has it's hands into. I've seen a
couple of reviews of the HD-VMD format and I'm waiting to see how they pan
out for storage and price.

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Non optical formats are going to come soon in the form of a Flash type ROM
readers or something. I'd like a Nintendo DS type Flash card insted of discs
any day.

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No he's not kidding, that's why it's called Beta Ray.

Profiles 1.2 and 1.3 later this year.

1.1 was just approved. ALL Beta Ray players other than the PS3 sold up till
now are non upgradable profile 1.0


Dammit....I'm sick of playing the upgrade game with Microsoft all these
years.....now I gotta do it with Blu-Ray?

**** YOU, SONY!!!

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Non optical formats are going to come soon in the form of a Flash type ROM
readers or something. I'd like a Nintendo DS type Flash card insted of discs
any day.


Non-optical does sound like the future.....I assume much higher bit rates with
flash memory than with optical media?

I know Sony already makes 4K digital cinema projectors.....how long until we see
2160p for the home consumer (4 times the resolution of 1920x1080p)? I would bet
that only flash ROM can handle video bitrates for 4K Super Ultra High
Definition!!!

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HD-DVD Suxx wrote:
Non optical formats are going to come soon in the form of a Flash type
ROM readers or something. I'd like a Nintendo DS type Flash card
insted of discs any day.


Non-optical does sound like the future.....I assume much higher bit
rates with flash memory than with optical media?

I know Sony already makes 4K digital cinema projectors.....how long
until we see 2160p for the home consumer (4 times the resolution of
1920x1080p)? I would bet that only flash ROM can handle video bitrates
for 4K Super Ultra High Definition

hd-dvd is best. I dont need to convert mpeg 2 to avc on a hd-dvd.
Blu-rays take hours to make if you dont have a super computer.

anyway my 750 gig tivo hd gets all kinds of hd movies. so why would a
need blu-ray anyway?

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In article " writes:

hd-dvd is best. I dont need to convert mpeg 2 to avc on a hd-dvd.
Blu-rays take hours to make if you dont have a super computer.

I like blue LEDs. They are pretty.


About as meaningful. Your preference makes no difference for
HD-DVD.

Alan

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Alan wrote:
In article " writes:

hd-dvd is best. I dont need to convert mpeg 2 to avc on a hd-dvd.
Blu-rays take hours to make if you dont have a super computer.

I like blue LEDs. They are pretty.


About as meaningful. Your preference makes no difference for
HD-DVD.

Alan

guess you dont make your own blu-ray or hd-dvds.

I know blu-rays can use mpeg 2 without converting it to avc on a dvd-r.
But i cant find the software to do it. I tried make a blu-ray on ulead
movie maker 6. But it will only make 1080x1440 blu-ray dvd-rs. And then
it takes 7 hours to convert mpeg 2 to avc.

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You are a friggin' idiot.

Competition is a good thing, and we are all better off because of it. Even
with the threat of HD DVD jeopardizing the market, Sony still has managed to
impose all sorts of DRM and licensing issues to make HDCP, HDMI, and content
token a standard set of disk features.

If you had both formats and authored in both formats as I have for 18
months, you would know that HD DVD delivers superb content and is at least
as good and in some respects superior to BluRay.

Smarty



"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
I hope the entire planet throws a big-ass party the day HD-DVD is dead,
dead, ****ing DEAD!!!! Good riddance!

VHS took years to kill off Betamax........but now Sony has sweet revenge
and HD-DVD wont even live to see the end of 2008!!!

REJOICE!

P.S. - HD-DVD is same garbage as those ****ty pay-per-view DIVX disc
players Circuit City was trying to sell a few years back

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And by the way, genius..... your calendar is off by a week.....

Your messages are showing up posted on January 20th







"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
I hope the entire planet throws a big-ass party the day HD-DVD is dead,
dead, ****ing DEAD!!!! Good riddance!

VHS took years to kill off Betamax........but now Sony has sweet revenge
and HD-DVD wont even live to see the end of 2008!!!

REJOICE!

P.S. - HD-DVD is same garbage as those ****ty pay-per-view DIVX disc
players Circuit City was trying to sell a few years back

How big of a party should the world throw when HD-DVD is finally dead ????
 

I hope the entire planet throws a big-ass party the day HD-DVD is dead, dead,
****ing DEAD!!!! Good riddance!

VHS took years to kill off Betamax........but now Sony has sweet revenge and
HD-DVD wont even live to see the end of 2008!!!

REJOICE!

P.S. - HD-DVD is same garbage as those ****ty pay-per-view DIVX disc players
Circuit City was trying to sell a few years back

How big of a party should the world throw when HD-DVD is finally dead ????
 

"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
I hope the entire planet throws a big-ass party the day HD-DVD is dead,
dead, ****ing DEAD!!!! Good riddance!

VHS took years to kill off Betamax........but now Sony has sweet revenge
and HD-DVD wont even live to see the end of 2008!!!

REJOICE!

P.S. - HD-DVD is same garbage as those ****ty pay-per-view DIVX disc
players Circuit City was trying to sell a few years back
================================
How big a party will you throw when you find out your 1.0
Blue Ray player will not play any features on newer discs?

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"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray 1.2,
Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going to have
one
with themselves!


****.....I hope you are kidding!

============================
Not at all.
Players cannot be upgraded and 1.1 is here
and 2.0 is coming soon.

Features on the new discs will NOT play on your player.

Good luck.

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In article ,
"Richard C." wrote:

"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray 1.2,
Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going to have
one
with themselves!


****.....I hope you are kidding!

============================
Not at all.
Players cannot be upgraded and 1.1 is here
and 2.0 is coming soon.

Features on the new discs will NOT play on your player.

Good luck.

but the movie still will...

How big of a party should the world throw when HD-DVD isfinally dead ????
 

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:18:40 -0800, Richard C. wrote:

"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray 1.2,
Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going to have
one
with themselves!


****.....I hope you are kidding!

============================
Not at all.
Players cannot be upgraded and 1.1 is here and 2.0 is coming soon.

Features on the new discs will NOT play on your player.

Good luck.

It's not just features that they'll lose. The new 2.0 disc won't play
properly at all from what I read. So they're planning on doing one
version for 2.0 players and another for 1.1 players. The status of 1.0
players was that neither of these new disc would play properly in them
IIRC. To be on the safe side, I'd certainly wait til the 2.0 players come
out. Xbox drives are upgradeable.

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"Lloyd Parsons" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Richard C." wrote:

"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray 1.2,
Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going to have
one
with themselves!


****.....I hope you are kidding!

============================
Not at all.
Players cannot be upgraded and 1.1 is here
and 2.0 is coming soon.

Features on the new discs will NOT play on your player.

Good luck.

but the movie still will...

==================
Maybe.................

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:36:26 -0800, Richard C. wrote:

"Lloyd Parsons" wrote in message
...
In article , "Richard C."
wrote:

"HD-DVD Suxx" HurrayforBlu-Ray.com wrote in message
. ..
So, what are you going to buy: Blu-Ray 1.0, Blu-Ray 1.1, Blu-Ray
1.2, Blu-Ray 2.0 ... ? Sony loves format wars so much they're going
to have one
with themselves!

****.....I hope you are kidding!

Not at all.
Players cannot be upgraded and 1.1 is here and 2.0 is coming soon.
Features on the new discs will NOT play on your player.

but the movie still will...

Maybe.................

1.1 and 2.0 players will use difference format disc. Only 2.0 players
will play the 2.0 format disc. It's not clear to me if the 1.0 players
will play the 1.1 disc or if they also will need there own format.
Maybe you can make out what they're saying. I know a lot of people are
buying these beta units still and 2.0 (a final release) isn't due out til
October 2008. And I don't think most of them realize what they are buying
isn't even recommended by the BDA group. There's going to be a lot of
****ed off people before this is over.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Blur...nto/1199841379

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"Jim" jimmy AT hotmail.com wrote in message
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I never have understood the emotional attachment and personal sway people
show when discussing electronic hardware.
Do they own stock in companies involved? Are they part of a competing
development team?
What causes it to become personal and starts the insults flying?

Sometimes there are good reasons, but the supporters of BluRay don't really
have many good ones, in my opinion.

Some reasons people like HD DVD are similar to why some people like
open-source software (such as Linux): more control for the user/consumer,
not shackled or spied on by major corporations (at least as much). Blu Ray
has more DRM and region coding and less consumer-friendly features than HD
DVD (as well as higher manufacturing costs for both discs and players, which
would likely lead to a persistent slight increase in prices compared to HD
DVD, minus the competition between them). At least for now, Blu Ray is also
appearantly much more difficult and time-consuming for individual digital
filmmakers to encode movies for. In addition, the Blu Ray spec is still a
moving target with lots of existing and impending incompatibilities, and
lots more reported problems with playback and features not functioning
compared to HD DVD. Basically, it's still not feature-complete, and those
features that are supposedly complet are not fully tested or refined, so
anyone buying a Blu Ray player now (other than possibly the PS3) is likely
to be disappointed in the future (if not right away). People don't like to
be conned, which is largely what's happening with Blu Ray being pushed out
prematurely.

In exchange, Blu Ray has slightly higher capacity (not much of an issue for
movies, as it appears HD DVD has sufficient capacity for great-looking
hi-def movies + extras, and still has the option of more layers in the
future) and bitrate (not an issue at all for hi-def movie playback, either
is sufficient). All things considered, I could see how Blu Ray might be a
somewhat better recordable medium for data storage (ie, computer backup),
which has nothing really to do with consumer playback of pre-recorded
movies, but that's about it.

So those backing HD DVD are concerned, at least in a small way, about the
direction of our society, more than the pure technology. And since consumer
adoption of technology often works sort of like a landslide, momentum in the
direciton of Blu Ray could doom us all to more "shackled and spied on" media
servitude, rather than a direction of increasing freedom of creativity and
entertainment.