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Bill Wright January 7th 08 03:45 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.

Bill



housetrained[_2_] January 7th 08 08:59 AM

How to greatly improve the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the
manufacturer's default.

Bill

On this one there are 4 settings; first is what you make it, 2nd is bright
factory set fixed, 3rd is medium factory set fixed, 4th is dim factory set
fixed. We use the bright for sunny daylight viewing the medium for dark room
viewing and the dim for teletext etc. This seems to work quite well. We have
all fiddled with the user one but none of us use it.

--
John the West Ham fan





Alan White January 7th 08 09:52 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 02:45:52 -0000, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.


See http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/TV_Setup.txt
--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

Dave Plowman (News) January 7th 08 11:05 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic
effect. Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the
manufacturer's default.


On my new LCD most of the factory presets give white crushing. The
'maximum' one rather badly so. But that's what the average LCD buyer both
wants and expects.

--
*How about "never"? Is "never" good for you?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 7th 08 11:25 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.


"Flog it and buy

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 7th 08 11:27 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:

Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.


"Flog it and buy


a CRT"

(to complete the post)

Doc

bugbear January 7th 08 01:21 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:

Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.

"Flog it and buy


a CRT"


Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?

There are no perfect TVs (yet?)

BugBear

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 7th 08 01:44 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:


Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy


a CRT"


Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?

There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.

Doc

bugbear January 7th 08 04:39 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy
a CRT"

Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?

There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.


Your careful qualification is noted ;-)

BugBear

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 7th 08 04:58 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 7 Jan, 15:39, bugbear wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy
a CRT"
Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?


There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.


Your careful qualification is noted ;-)


:)

Since I can't see myself moving to HD for a while yet, I want
something that does the best possible with SD until it dies (and being
a 8 year old Philips screen, could be any moment now)

Doc


larkim January 7th 08 05:12 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On Jan 7, 12:44*pm, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:

Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:


Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy


a CRT"


Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?


There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.

Doc


Where? I'm interested in buying a CRT but I can't find them!!
(Genuinely)

Matt

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 7th 08 05:16 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 7 Jan, 16:12, larkim wrote:
On Jan 7, 12:44 pm, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:



On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:


Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:


Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy


a CRT"


Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?


There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.


Doc


Where? I'm interested in buying a CRT but I can't find them!!
(Genuinely)


Sadly, my living room and my 8 year old 32pw9525 Philips. :(
Can't get em no more

Doc

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 7th 08 05:20 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 7 Jan, 16:12, larkim wrote:
On Jan 7, 12:44 pm, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:



On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:


Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:


Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy


a CRT"


Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?


There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.


Doc


Where? I'm interested in buying a CRT but I can't find them!!
(Genuinely)

Matt


erm....
http://www.redstore.com/SANMON092
http://www.memory-express.co.uk/inde...d=17&id=525128
http://www.memory-express.co.uk/inde...d=17&id=639141 - HD
Ready too

Doc

PeeGee January 7th 08 05:33 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 16:12, larkim wrote:
On Jan 7, 12:44 pm, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:



On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy
a CRT"
Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?
There are no perfect TVs (yet?)
No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.
Doc

Where? I'm interested in buying a CRT but I can't find them!!
(Genuinely)

Matt


erm....
http://www.redstore.com/SANMON092
http://www.memory-express.co.uk/inde...d=17&id=525128
http://www.memory-express.co.uk/inde...d=17&id=639141 - HD
Ready too

Doc

The trouble there would be getting the forklift into the room to move it :-)

--
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CS January 7th 08 07:49 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
And the 32 inch CRTs use less power - 100W.

Roderick Stewart January 7th 08 07:59 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
In article 0e40727a-532f-493b-a911-
, Larkim wrote:
No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.

Doc


Where? *I'm interested in buying a CRT but I can't find them!!
(Genuinely)


There are lots on Ebay. You'd probably have to choose one near where
you live and collect it yourself, but you may be able to get something
very good for a very low price. It seems to be a buyers' market.

I have a couple of CRT computer monitors that I'd be happy to *give*
away, but have so far found it impossible to do so. That gives an idea
of the current popularity of CRTs.

Rod.


Ben January 7th 08 08:19 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:

Since I can't see myself moving to HD for a while yet, I want
something that does the best possible with SD until it dies (and being
a 8 year old Philips screen, could be any moment now)


My Philips is 9 years old now and shows no signs of imminent death. It
has some convergence and geometry issues, and the picture is a little
soft, but that's nice as compression artefacts don't show up.

Adrian[_3_] January 7th 08 08:22 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Ben wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:

Since I can't see myself moving to HD for a while yet, I want
something that does the best possible with SD until it dies (and
being a 8 year old Philips screen, could be any moment now)


My Philips is 9 years old now and shows no signs of imminent death. It
has some convergence and geometry issues, and the picture is a little
soft, but that's nice as compression artefacts don't show up.


I've got a Sony I bought second hand 8 years ago, still looks OK to me.



Usenet January 7th 08 09:04 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Bill Wright wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.

Bill


Don't over use the sharpness control. Less is better in this respect.

Glenn.

Bill Wright January 8th 08 03:55 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Eeeee, I've caused a right debate haven't I?

Bill



Chris J Dixon January 8th 08 09:54 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Roderick Stewart wrote:

I have a couple of CRT computer monitors that I'd be happy to *give*
away, but have so far found it impossible to do so.


Realcycle worked for me.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

diy-newby January 8th 08 11:17 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Eeeee, I've caused a right debate haven't I?

Bill


Getting a good picture on these LCD / Plasmas is very difficuly indeed.
Most 'out of the box' settings are terrible.
I have just taken a 1080p LCD back as I was not happy with it.



Alan White January 8th 08 11:24 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:17:20 -0000, "diy-newby" wrote:

Getting a good picture on these LCD / Plasmas is very difficuly indeed.


Assuming a fault-free set, it isn't.

See http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/TV_Setup.txt

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

diy-newby January 8th 08 11:38 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 

"Alan White" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:17:20 -0000, "diy-newby" wrote:

Getting a good picture on these LCD / Plasmas is very difficuly indeed.


Assuming a fault-free set, it isn't.


There is NO such thing. All tv's have some sort of fault, from Backlight
bleed (on LCD's), clouding, duff pixels, motion blur etc.



Alan White January 8th 08 11:49 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:38:08 -0000, "diy-newby" wrote:

There is NO such thing. All tv's have some sort of fault, from Backlight
bleed (on LCD's), clouding, duff pixels, motion blur etc.


In that case, give up watching television.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 8th 08 11:55 AM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 8 Jan, 10:49, Alan White wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:38:08 -0000, "diy-newby" wrote:
There is NO such thing. All tv's have some sort of fault, from Backlight
bleed (on LCD's), clouding, duff pixels, motion blur etc.


In that case, give up watching television.


LOL.

Doc

Roderick Stewart January 8th 08 12:14 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
In article , Alan White wrote:
There is NO such thing. *All tv's have some sort of fault, from Backlight*
bleed (on LCD's), clouding, duff pixels, motion blur etc.


In that case, give up watching television.


That's the best suggestion I've seen for a long time. Thank goodness I still
enjoy reading books.

Rod.


Dr Hfuhruhurr January 8th 08 12:23 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 8 Jan, 11:14, Roderick Stewart
wrote:
In article , Alan White wrote:
There is NO such thing. All tv's have some sort of fault, from Backlight
bleed (on LCD's), clouding, duff pixels, motion blur etc.


In that case, give up watching television.


That's the best suggestion I've seen for a long time. Thank goodness I still
enjoy reading books.


Yup. And listening to music.

Doc


David January 8th 08 12:34 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 

"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote in message
news:00008bba-fd10-4c84-bb86-

Since I can't see myself moving to HD for a while yet, I want
something that does the best possible with SD until it dies (and being
a 8 year old Philips screen, could be any moment now)


Has it died now?
Lol
Think you done well getting 8 years. I went off Phiilps at about the time
you must have bought it, due to bad reliability and poor quaulity pictures
compared with Panasonic and JVC.

Are Philips better these days with thier LCD/Plasmas?

--
Regards,
David

Please reply to News Group



David January 8th 08 12:34 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...

Realcycle worked for me.


Do you mean the web site FREEcycle?
That is a good place to get rid.

--
Regards,
David

Please reply to News Group



Chris J Dixon January 8th 08 12:57 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
David wrote:

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
.. .

Realcycle worked for me.


Do you mean the web site FREEcycle?
That is a good place to get rid.


No, but it works in the same way.

http://www.realcycle.co.uk/

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Chris J Dixon January 8th 08 01:01 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
Bill Wright wrote:

Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.


At the moment I have mine set to the figures recommended by
Which.

As we don't seem to have a test card any more, what are the
suggestions for a suitable image source for setting up? It can
be like trying to hit a moving target.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Dr Hfuhruhurr January 8th 08 01:03 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On 8 Jan, 11:34, "David" wrote:
"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote in message

news:00008bba-fd10-4c84-bb86-

Since I can't see myself moving to HD for a while yet, I want
something that does the best possible with SD until it dies (and being
a 8 year old Philips screen, could be any moment now)


Has it died now?


Nope it still worked this morning.

Lol
Think you done well getting 8 years. I went off Phiilps at about the time
you must have bought it, due to bad reliability and poor quaulity pictures
compared with Panasonic and JVC.


Aside from reliability concerns It had a better picture than the
equivalent Panasonic and Sony models. JVC weren't even in the running

Are Philips better these days with thier LCD/Plasmas?


Haven't the foggiest.

Doc

diy-newby January 8th 08 01:11 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:

Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the
manufacturer's
default.


At the moment I have mine set to the figures recommended by
Which.

As we don't seem to have a test card any more, what are the
suggestions for a suitable image source for setting up? It can
be like trying to hit a moving target.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.


Digital Video Essentials (DVE) is supposed to be very good. Also, some of
the big blockbuster movies on DVD (such as star wars etc) have 'setup'
routine which is a basic version of DVE



Alan White January 8th 08 01:16 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:01:01 GMT, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

As we don't seem to have a test card any more, what are the
suggestions for a suitable image source for setting up? It can
be like trying to hit a moving target.


You do as I've suggested a number of times during the last week and in
this thread and elsewhere.

See http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/TV_Setup.txt

I used News 24 studio shots as an initial source and then 'tweaked' on a
number of other 'live' sources plus 'Bleak House'. It took about two
days of intermittent 'tweaking' to set up my Sony Bravia KDL-V32A12U to
my satisfaction. I ended up with the best picture I've seen outside a
studio production control room.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

Bill Wright January 8th 08 01:21 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
Roderick Stewart wrote:

I have a couple of CRT computer monitors that I'd be happy to *give*
away, but have so far found it impossible to do so.


Realcycle worked for me.


I fell off.

Bill



Bill Wright January 8th 08 01:23 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
As we don't seem to have a test card any more, what are the
suggestions for a suitable image source for setting up? It can
be like trying to hit a moving target.


That bloke in Liverpool managed it.

Bill



Marky P January 8th 08 04:36 PM

How to greatly inprove the performance of your LCD or plasma
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 02:55:44 -0000, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

Eeeee, I've caused a right debate haven't I?

Bill

I'd call it a mass debate :-)

Marky P.


curious January 8th 08 06:14 PM

ping Dr Hfuhruhurr How to greatly inprove the performance ofyour LCD or plasma
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy
a CRT"

Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?

There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.

Doc


This looks interesting...


http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/s...0-32-inch-crt/

curious January 8th 08 06:15 PM

ping Dr Hfuhruhurr How to greatly inprove the performance ofyour LCD or plasma
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 12:21, bugbear wrote:
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 10:25, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 7 Jan, 02:45, "Bill Wright" wrote:
Adjust the contrast, brightness, and colour for the most realistic effect.
Usually this will mean setting all three a long way below the manufacturer's
default.
"Flog it and buy
a CRT"

Cool. Can you point me to a 42" diagonal CRT
with geometry (linearity etc) as good as a LCD or Plasma?

There are no perfect TVs (yet?)


No but I can point you to a 32" flat screen CRT with near perfect
geometry with far superior contrast, picture quality and natural
movement compared to any LCD or Plasma i've seen using SD input.

Doc


This looks interesting...


http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/s...0-32-inch-crt/


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