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JohnR66 January 7th 08 12:11 AM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
I'm on the fence about getting a new LCD TV or a converter box for my old TV
so I can continue watching next year. I'm one of few who don't have nor want
cable. I don't watch TV much, but do watch the news and a few shows and
DVDs.

Looking at consumer reports, they don't even rate TVs under 32" and I found
nothing on the net but two year old reviews. I need a 26" because that is
the largest that will fit my TV cabinet. I'm hoping for a good set with fast
response, good blacks and picture. It seems that Sony and Panasonic do well
with the bigger sets. What should I look for?

What about a CRT based HDTV set?

Thanks



G-squared January 7th 08 12:42 AM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
JohnR66 wrote:
I'm on the fence about getting a new LCD TV or a converter box for

my old TV
so I can continue watching next year. I'm one of few who don't have

nor want
cable. I don't watch TV much, but do watch the news and a few shows

and
DVDs.

Looking at consumer reports, they don't even rate TVs under 32" and

I found
nothing on the net but two year old reviews. I need a 26" because

that is
the largest that will fit my TV cabinet. I'm hoping for a good set

with fast
response, good blacks and picture. It seems that Sony and Panasonic

do well
with the bigger sets. What should I look for?

What about a CRT based HDTV set?

Thanks


Very few CRT HD or SD digital sets to be had. If you're limited to a
specific case size, I would go to manufacturers websites and download
owners manuals and find out which models could work for you. Then go
look at them or read reviews if that suits you better and buy it.

I didn't watch all that much TV before going digital. You might find
it more compelling in HD.

GG

AJ[_2_] January 7th 08 12:59 AM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
Many of the television manufacturers have discontinued producing CRT based
sets other than the bottom line vcr-dvd-tv combos. There are web sites that
you can visit to get up to a $40 US coupon that may be used towards purchase
of a digital convertor box for your older set. As far as getting a new LCD
set, there are many items now available at sale prices following the
holidays. Check the prices, stay with the known brand names. Make a choice
which way you are teatering and take the plunge. Cheers.
"G-squared" wrote in message
...
JohnR66 wrote:
I'm on the fence about getting a new LCD TV or a converter box for

my old TV
so I can continue watching next year. I'm one of few who don't have

nor want
cable. I don't watch TV much, but do watch the news and a few shows

and
DVDs.

Looking at consumer reports, they don't even rate TVs under 32" and

I found
nothing on the net but two year old reviews. I need a 26" because

that is
the largest that will fit my TV cabinet. I'm hoping for a good set

with fast
response, good blacks and picture. It seems that Sony and Panasonic

do well
with the bigger sets. What should I look for?

What about a CRT based HDTV set?

Thanks


Very few CRT HD or SD digital sets to be had. If you're limited to a
specific case size, I would go to manufacturers websites and download
owners manuals and find out which models could work for you. Then go
look at them or read reviews if that suits you better and buy it.

I didn't watch all that much TV before going digital. You might find
it more compelling in HD.

GG



md January 8th 08 12:53 AM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 

What about a CRT based HDTV set?

CRT cost less to power. I think one reason they banned the 100W bulb
was to
free up power to drive these new sets. From my visit to BB, CRTs look
just fine.
And from what I hear, they are more rugged.
My 27" is now 20 years old now and going strong.

Picture quality is a personal thing. Go view and choose.

Wes Newell January 8th 08 09:02 AM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:53:55 -0800, md wrote:

What about a CRT based HDTV set?

CRT cost less to power.


That's just pure fiction. They take 2-3 times the power than a comparable
LCD set. It's real easy to verify this be comparing a 45W 19" LCD monitor
to what a 19" CRT monitor eats up. My 19" CRT uses 125W compared to the
LCD that only uses 45W. Plasmas and CRT's use about the same amount.

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md January 8th 08 03:14 PM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
On Jan 8, 2:02 am, Wes Newell wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:53:55 -0800, md wrote:
What about a CRT based HDTV set?


CRT cost less to power.


That's just pure fiction. They take 2-3 times the power than a comparable
LCD set. It's real easy to verify this be comparing a 45W 19" LCD monitor
to what a 19" CRT monitor eats up. My 19" CRT uses 125W compared to the
LCD that only uses 45W. Plasmas and CRT's use about the same amount.


You may correct, however, it's contrary to what I read in the press.
To your
example; I was comparing televisions and the electronics required to
support it.
The plasmas I saw in BB were actually hot. My friends DLP, before
considering any
electronics, has a 150W(?) bulb in it. I'll have to get some specs
on typical sets. You have peaked my interest. "I'll be back". :-)

Like I said, you may be correct, but it's not what I read.

md January 8th 08 03:26 PM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
On Jan 8, 8:14 am, md wrote:
On Jan 8, 2:02 am, Wes Newell wrote: On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:53:55 -0800, md wrote:
What about a CRT based HDTV set?


CRT cost less to power.


That's just pure fiction. They take 2-3 times the power than a comparable
LCD set. It's real easy to verify this be comparing a 45W 19" LCD monitor
to what a 19" CRT monitor eats up. My 19" CRT uses 125W compared to the
LCD that only uses 45W. Plasmas and CRT's use about the same amount.


You may correct, however, it's contrary to what I read in the press.
To your
example; I was comparing televisions and the electronics required to
support it.
The plasmas I saw in BB were actually hot. My friends DLP, before
considering any
electronics, has a 150W(?) bulb in it. I'll have to get some specs
on typical sets. You have peaked my interest. "I'll be back". :-)

Like I said, you may be correct, but it's not what I read.


http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html
Given the set, you are correct.
Samsung LN-R3228W LCD 32 1.9 116.81 0.27 Good Good
$36.63
I am amazed. This one takes less power than my 27". I'd like to see
how it looks.
A lot of these sets do take over 200W thou.

Wes Newell January 8th 08 08:16 PM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:26:17 -0800, md wrote:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html Given the set, you
are correct.
Samsung LN-R3228W LCD 32 1.9 116.81 0.27

Good Good $36.63
I am amazed. This one takes less power than my 27". I'd like to see
how it looks.
A lot of these sets do take over 200W thou.


There's a lot more to usage than just the technology. That why to compare
the technology, it best to do using monitors that don't have tuners in
them. Tuners suck up a lot of juice and newer TV's have more tuners in them
than the older sets. And then you have to consider pixel count, etc, etc.
All in all LCD uses less than the others til you get up to large screens
where projection is more efficient.


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md January 8th 08 10:46 PM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
On Jan 8, 1:16 pm, Wes Newell wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:26:17 -0800, md wrote:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.htmlGiven the set, you
are correct.
Samsung LN-R3228W LCD 32 1.9 116.81 0.27

Good Good $36.63
I am amazed. This one takes less power than my 27". I'd like to see
how it looks.
A lot of these sets do take over 200W thou.


There's a lot more to usage than just the technology. That why to compare
the technology, it best to do using monitors that don't have tuners in
them. Tuners suck up a lot of juice and newer TV's have more tuners in them
than the older sets. And then you have to consider pixel count, etc, etc.
All in all LCD uses less than the others til you get up to large screens
where projection is more efficient.


So, rereading the WSJ, they were correct. For what ever reason,
people are purchasing hd sets that consume more power. Now, if one
were to purposefully look for a unit of moderate power, there are hd
sets that be had. That's just not the behavior.

And now, at the packaged level, the tv itself, and comparing like size
screens (Yes I understand
the ratio thing) do the follow technologies consume more or less than
a CRT. If there is no general
answer... I can accept that too. (I'm not up on the LCD - LED
technologies, active verses passive -
so feel free to edit the list)
Thanks.

plasma
lcd
led
dlp



Wes Newell January 9th 08 07:50 AM

26" LCD TV reviews? or CRT?
 
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:46:30 -0800, md wrote:

So, rereading the WSJ, they were correct. For what ever reason, people
are purchasing hd sets that consume more power. Now, if one were to
purposefully look for a unit of moderate power, there are hd sets that
be had. That's just not the behavior.

Sure. HDTV sets use more power than SD sets, but it the technology causing
it. It's the fact that the screen is usually larger and mainly because
there's 3-6 times more content within the screen. An SD set only has 345K
shots to the screen, where a 1080 HDTV has over 2M. My old 32" SD set was
rated at 90W max. My 27" HDTV is 125W IIRC, and the 37" is a little higher
than that. But if you could find a 32" SD LCD set it would be less than
the 90W CRT. Approx. 50W.

And now, at the packaged level, the tv itself, and comparing like size
screens (Yes I understand
the ratio thing) do the follow technologies consume more or less than a
CRT. If there is no general
answer... I can accept that too. (I'm not up on the LCD - LED
technologies, active verses passive - so feel free to edit the list)
Thanks.

plasma
lcd
led
dlp


Well, plasma consumes about the same as a CRT HDTV. LCD would consume
about one third maybe. DLP and LED or mostly used in projection sets that
you couldn't compare to crt sets, but only crt projection sets. And I'm
not sure how they compare against each other. But against non projection
TV's over 50", the RPTV is probably more effecient than even LCD. I've
personally never wanted such a large screen, but If I did, I'd probably go
with a front projector that could have screen sizes from about 30" to 300".



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