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Hello,

I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years ago
which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a 1080p
"simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a theoretical 1080p but
it's not a native or true 1080p. Just missed the technology turn (and
paid a sh*% ton for the faux 1080p!). I run my cable box and xbox360
w/ HDDVD at 720p because I read it's an easier upconvert and better
for sports and games.

To my question...I'm trying to get a feel on whether true 1080p is
going to be that visibile to me. I sit at a proper distance and I've
tuned my TV's settings per AV site and specs. It looks great to me.
I don't care about the form factor. It has HDMI and component inputs
so I have device compatibility.

Anyone face a similar decision and what conclusion did you reach?

Thanks,

Matt

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On Jan 5, 2:20*pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
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*Mtmartin71 wrote:
I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years ago
which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a 1080p
"simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a theoretical 1080p but
it's not a native or true 1080p. *Just missed the technology turn (and
paid a sh*% ton for the faux 1080p!).

No Promise Module?

I'm not familiar with that. Is it an upgrade to the DLP Chipset that
enables true 1080p? I'll have to research that.

Matt

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Mtmartin71 wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:20 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
In article
,

Mtmartin71 wrote:
I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years ago
which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a 1080p
"simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a theoretical 1080p
but it's not a native or true 1080p. Just missed the technology
turn (and paid a sh*% ton for the faux 1080p!).

No Promise Module?

I'm not familiar with that. Is it an upgrade to the DLP Chipset that
enables true 1080p? I'll have to research that.

Matt

That was sarcasm. Mitsubishi stated a few years ago that they would not
leave early adopters of HDTV out in the cold, and there would be modules to
add in such things as HDMI for sets that only had component inputs.

I have the 73727 DLP (which also up scales everything to 1080p), and as of
now, there are no true native 1080p sources available. Currently, anything
that has a 1080p output is converting 1080i to 1080p, which you get with
your current set.

There will be true 1080p content available at some point, but to upgrade now
would probably be too early. By the time there is enough content available,
prices will probably be a good deal lower.

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Agreed! Currently there are no upgrades available to convert the Mits sets
from 10801 to 1080p other than those being experimented with at the design
levels. Once they are considered a viable cach flow option then Mits may
consider actually making them available. Currently this is not an option.
Cheers
"L Alpert" wrote in message
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Mtmartin71 wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:20 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
In article
,

Mtmartin71 wrote:
I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years ago
which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a 1080p
"simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a theoretical 1080p
but it's not a native or true 1080p. Just missed the technology
turn (and paid a sh*% ton for the faux 1080p!).

No Promise Module?

I'm not familiar with that. Is it an upgrade to the DLP Chipset that
enables true 1080p? I'll have to research that.

Matt

That was sarcasm. Mitsubishi stated a few years ago that they would not
leave early adopters of HDTV out in the cold, and there would be modules
to add in such things as HDMI for sets that only had component inputs.

I have the 73727 DLP (which also up scales everything to 1080p), and as of
now, there are no true native 1080p sources available. Currently,
anything that has a 1080p output is converting 1080i to 1080p, which you
get with your current set.

There will be true 1080p content available at some point, but to upgrade
now would probably be too early. By the time there is enough content
available, prices will probably be a good deal lower.

Need Some Up On Deciding About Upgrading
 

On Jan 5, 5:12*pm, "L Alpert" wrote:
Mtmartin71 wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:20 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
In article
,

Mtmartin71 wrote:
I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years ago
which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a 1080p
"simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a theoretical 1080p
but it's not a native or true 1080p. Just missed the technology
turn (and paid a sh*% ton for the faux 1080p!).

No Promise Module?

I'm not familiar with that. *Is it an upgrade to the DLP Chipset that
enables true 1080p? *I'll have to research that.

Matt

That was sarcasm. *Mitsubishi stated a few years ago that they would not
leave early adopters of HDTV out in the cold, and there would be modules to
add in such things as HDMI for sets that only had component inputs.

I have the 73727 DLP (which also up scales everything to 1080p), and as of
now, there are no true native 1080p sources available. *Currently, anything
that has a 1080p output is converting 1080i to 1080p, which you get with
your current set.

There will be true 1080p content available at some point, but to upgrade now
would probably be too early. By the time there is enough content available,
prices will probably be a good deal lower.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Aren't HD-DVD and Blu-Ray outputting at 1080p? I realize cable/sat
are not, but what about those sources (plus the associated games)?

Thanks,

Matt

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In article
,
Mtmartin71 wrote:

On Jan 5, 5:12*pm, "L Alpert" wrote:
Mtmartin71 wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:20 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
In article
,

Mtmartin71 wrote:
I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years ago
which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a 1080p
"simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a theoretical 1080p
but it's not a native or true 1080p. Just missed the technology
turn (and paid a sh*% ton for the faux 1080p!).

No Promise Module?

I'm not familiar with that. *Is it an upgrade to the DLP Chipset that
enables true 1080p? *I'll have to research that.

Matt

That was sarcasm. *Mitsubishi stated a few years ago that they would not
leave early adopters of HDTV out in the cold, and there would be modules to
add in such things as HDMI for sets that only had component inputs.

I have the 73727 DLP (which also up scales everything to 1080p), and as of
now, there are no true native 1080p sources available. *Currently, anything
that has a 1080p output is converting 1080i to 1080p, which you get with
your current set.

There will be true 1080p content available at some point, but to upgrade now
would probably be too early. By the time there is enough content available,
prices will probably be a good deal lower.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Aren't HD-DVD and Blu-Ray outputting at 1080p? I realize cable/sat
are not, but what about those sources (plus the associated games)?

Thanks,

Matt

HDDVD does 1080p on all but the entry level machines. All BluRay do
1080p

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Mtmartin71 wrote:
On Jan 5, 5:12 pm, "L Alpert" wrote:
Mtmartin71 wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:20 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote:
In article
,

Mtmartin71 wrote:
I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years
ago which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a
1080p "simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a theoretical
1080p but it's not a native or true 1080p. Just missed the
technology turn (and paid a sh*% ton for the faux 1080p!).

No Promise Module?

I'm not familiar with that. Is it an upgrade to the DLP Chipset that
enables true 1080p? I'll have to research that.

Matt

That was sarcasm. Mitsubishi stated a few years ago that they would
not leave early adopters of HDTV out in the cold, and there would be
modules to add in such things as HDMI for sets that only had
component inputs.

I have the 73727 DLP (which also up scales everything to 1080p), and
as of now, there are no true native 1080p sources available.
Currently, anything that has a 1080p output is converting 1080i to
1080p, which you get with your current set.

There will be true 1080p content available at some point, but to
upgrade now would probably be too early. By the time there is enough
content available, prices will probably be a good deal lower.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Aren't HD-DVD and Blu-Ray outputting at 1080p? I realize cable/sat
are not, but what about those sources (plus the associated games)?

Thanks,

The output is upscaled from the player (output can be set to 1080i or p, or
720p), the original content is native 1080i.


Matt

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Lloyd Parsons wrote:
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Mtmartin71 wrote:

On Jan 5, 5:12 pm, "L Alpert" wrote:
Mtmartin71 wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:20 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote:
In article
,

Mtmartin71 wrote:
I bought a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV (model is WD-52628) about 3 years
ago which is 52" and supports natively up to 1080i and does a
1080p "simulation" i.e. it upconverts everything to a
theoretical 1080p but it's not a native or true 1080p. Just
missed the technology turn (and paid a sh*% ton for the faux
1080p!).

No Promise Module?

I'm not familiar with that. Is it an upgrade to the DLP Chipset
that enables true 1080p? I'll have to research that.

Matt

That was sarcasm. Mitsubishi stated a few years ago that they would
not leave early adopters of HDTV out in the cold, and there would
be modules to add in such things as HDMI for sets that only had
component inputs.

I have the 73727 DLP (which also up scales everything to 1080p),
and as of now, there are no true native 1080p sources available.
Currently, anything that has a 1080p output is converting 1080i to
1080p, which you get with your current set.

There will be true 1080p content available at some point, but to
upgrade now would probably be too early. By the time there is
enough content available, prices will probably be a good deal
lower.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Aren't HD-DVD and Blu-Ray outputting at 1080p? I realize cable/sat
are not, but what about those sources (plus the associated games)?

Thanks,

Matt

HDDVD does 1080p on all but the entry level machines. All BluRay do
1080p

The content on the disc (the data) is 1080i, the output is upscaled via the
player.

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On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:15:39 GMT, "L Alpert"
wrote:

Lloyd Parsons wrote:
....

HDDVD does 1080p on all but the entry level machines. All BluRay do
1080p

Not quite true (at least not in Europe) as I understand that e.g. also
the Blu-ray player Panasonic DMP-BD10A can't output 1080p/24.

The content on the disc (the data) is 1080i, the output is upscaled via the
player.

I think we have to differentiate between different frame rates.
My understang is that film material is stored (and some can output) as
1080p/24 on these discs and that 24Hz is used also on european
versions (instead of speeding up to 25Hz 2:2 sequencing as we been
used to).

I don't know if it's possible to store/read 1080p/60 on these discs.
Is what you mean?

About Progressive/Interlaced:
The advantage of progressive 50Hz or 60Hz broadcast format (read
"720p") for better fidelity in moving pictures also requires that the
source material is truly progressive. As I usderstand it, cameras for
progressive 60/50Hz imaging are still not common.
/Jan

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Jan B wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:15:39 GMT, "L Alpert"
wrote:

Lloyd Parsons wrote:
...

HDDVD does 1080p on all but the entry level machines. All BluRay do
1080p

Not quite true (at least not in Europe) as I understand that e.g. also
the Blu-ray player Panasonic DMP-BD10A can't output 1080p/24.

The content on the disc (the data) is 1080i, the output is upscaled
via the player.

I think we have to differentiate between different frame rates.
My understang is that film material is stored (and some can output) as
1080p/24 on these discs and that 24Hz is used also on european
versions (instead of speeding up to 25Hz 2:2 sequencing as we been
used to).

I don't know if it's possible to store/read 1080p/60 on these discs.
Is what you mean?

Yes......I certainly do not profess to be an expert, but my understanding is
that true 1080p/60 content is not currently available, either via broadcast
or through recorded media.


About Progressive/Interlaced:
The advantage of progressive 50Hz or 60Hz broadcast format (read
"720p") for better fidelity in moving pictures also requires that the
source material is truly progressive. As I usderstand it, cameras for
progressive 60/50Hz imaging are still not common.
/Jan

Some US networks broadcast in 720p, though I couldn't tell you if they are
actually using native 720p equipment.....