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[email protected] January 3rd 08 02:48 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie



John Russell January 3rd 08 04:22 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 

wrote in message
...
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie


A second box would require a SKY Card to get subscription channels. It would
even require a Freesat card to get Free, but Sky encrypted channels. When
you get SKY+ to engineer will have to got a new LNB to the dish to drive the
two feeds on the SKY+. This is called a Quad LNB and has 4 feeds. When the
engineer rings to confirm his appointment you could ask him if he would add
the extra cables if you paid him extra. Of course if you go for multiroom
when you book SKY+ that would be included.

For only occasional use you can make do with the RF feed from the SKY box
in a second location.



Julie January 3rd 08 06:06 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 

"John Russell" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie


A second box would require a SKY Card to get subscription channels. It
would even require a Freesat card to get Free, but Sky encrypted channels.
When you get SKY+ to engineer will have to got a new LNB to the dish to
drive the two feeds on the SKY+. This is called a Quad LNB and has 4
feeds. When the engineer rings to confirm his appointment you could ask
him if he would add the extra cables if you paid him extra. Of course if
you go for multiroom when you book SKY+ that would be included.

For only occasional use you can make do with the RF feed from the SKY box
in a second location.


I have a SKY card as I have a sub for basic 4 mix sky (no premiums) so I
hope that will be OK

The issue is Do I have to call an engineer? Will it work if I just plug the
new plus box in to the existing leads? And if that is OK how do I get the
second one to work on the basic box......can I split the cable somehow (with
a splitter plug not literaaly!) or do those wireless things work OK?

How do I know if the dish has Quad LNB with 4 feeds?? It is a pretty new
dish....only a few months old.

Thanks folks



the dog from that film you saw[_2_] January 3rd 08 06:23 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 

wrote in message
...
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie





if you get another feed fitted to your other room you could take your
viewing card from 1 box to the other - but it wouldnt work for sky movies or
sports - just the other subscription channels.
plus you couldnt use both boxes at once - obviously.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



The Wizard January 3rd 08 06:23 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 

"Julie" wrote in message
...

The issue is Do I have to call an engineer? Will it work if I just plug
the new plus box in to the existing leads? And if that is OK how do I get
the second one to work on the basic box......can I split the cable somehow
(with a splitter plug not literaaly!) or do those wireless things work OK?

How do I know if the dish has Quad LNB with 4 feeds?? It is a pretty new
dish....only a few months old.


A quad LNB on the dish basically means you can have up to four inputs (Four
wires from the roof)

Sky+ would take two of them leaving you two left for running to any other
two Satellite receivers.

Obviously, You'd need to have a third length of coax fitted by an installer
(Sky might refit your original Sky box in another room when installing Sky+
for you)

Ask when phoning is the best idea, Telling them you want to use your spare
box as a Free Sat Box.

T.W.



Julie January 3rd 08 06:39 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 

"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

wrote in message
...
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie





if you get another feed fitted to your other room you could take your
viewing card from 1 box to the other - but it wouldnt work for sky movies
or sports - just the other subscription channels.
plus you couldnt use both boxes at once - obviously.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Oh of course.....It would be a nuisance shifting the SKY card around so back
to basics on the second TV!

I will look at the dish to see whether there are 4 "sockets" when it is
light again.

Anyone tried those SCART type wireless beamer thingys do they work for a
second connection?

Also any way of bypassing the SKY installers....I was not impressed, The
first time the guy fitted a new cable but left an old dish.....3 days later
it blew off almost. The second guy fixed a new dish, but right in front of
the window! The refused to m ove it. his boss came and was OK....



clohogue January 3rd 08 09:47 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 

"Julie" wrote in message
...

"the dog from that film you saw"
wrote in message ...

wrote in message
...
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie





if you get another feed fitted to your other room you could take your
viewing card from 1 box to the other - but it wouldnt work for sky movies
or sports - just the other subscription channels.
plus you couldnt use both boxes at once - obviously.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Oh of course.....It would be a nuisance shifting the SKY card around so
back to basics on the second TV!

I will look at the dish to see whether there are 4 "sockets" when it is
light again.

Anyone tried those SCART type wireless beamer thingys do they work for a
second connection?

Also any way of bypassing the SKY installers....I was not impressed, The
first time the guy fitted a new cable but left an old dish.....3 days
later it blew off almost. The second guy fixed a new dish, but right in
front of the window! The refused to m ove it. his boss came and was OK....



If you do not want to watch both Sky boxes at the same time then save
yourself a lot of hassle and get the wireless digisender thing from Argos or
somewhere. I have one of those AEI Digisenders and it cost about 55 euro
(about 40 stg?) I think in Argos catalogue. Stick one half in back of Sky+
box the other half in back of TV in other room and voila! no wires, no
messing. Only catch is to change channels you will either need to bring the
Sky+ remote from room to room or just buy a spare remote (also in Argos
catalogue about 40 euro/25 stg??).

There are more expensive ones in the catalogue which would enable you to
feed extra things like DVD etc to the 2nd room but unless you are seriously
into technology (and you can see from my reply that I am not a techie
person;-) do like me and buy a cheapy DVD player for 2nd room. The 33 euro
Aldi player I have looks as good to me as the 250 Panasonic in main room.


John Russell January 4th 08 11:38 AM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 

"Julie" wrote in message
...

"John Russell" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie


A second box would require a SKY Card to get subscription channels. It
would even require a Freesat card to get Free, but Sky encrypted
channels. When you get SKY+ to engineer will have to got a new LNB to the
dish to drive the two feeds on the SKY+. This is called a Quad LNB and
has 4 feeds. When the engineer rings to confirm his appointment you could
ask him if he would add the extra cables if you paid him extra. Of course
if you go for multiroom when you book SKY+ that would be included.

For only occasional use you can make do with the RF feed from the SKY
box in a second location.


I have a SKY card as I have a sub for basic 4 mix sky (no premiums) so I
hope that will be OK

The issue is Do I have to call an engineer? Will it work if I just plug
the new plus box in to the existing leads? And if that is OK how do I get
the second one to work on the basic box......can I split the cable somehow
(with a splitter plug not literaaly!) or do those wireless things work OK?

How do I know if the dish has Quad LNB with 4 feeds?? It is a pretty new
dish....only a few months old.

Thanks folks


Sky don't fit Quad's for single digibox installations. They replace the
single LNB with a Quad when SKY+ is installed. A Sat link is bi-directional
with control information going from the sat tuner to the LNB. You can't
split a sat lead and feed two tuners!

So when you order SKY+ the installtion is not just the box but will include
changing the LNB and running in the extra cables. You can't just buy a SKY+
off Ebay and connect it up!



paddytt January 6th 08 11:38 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 
On Jan 3, 1:48 pm, wrote:
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie


Julie

There's a socket (called RF2) on the back of all Sky boxes. Connect a
TV to it using normal TV aerial cable and you can watch the same
picture on both TV's for no extra cost. If you have a TV socket in
your wall that you don't use (you said your reception was poor) then
try plugging the RF2 socket into that, and in your attic connect the
cable from the aerial to the other room instead. Then the picture
will appear on the other TV in the other room. We have the same pic
on 4 TV's in 4 different rooms this way (but we need a booster to
power it all!)

You can even change the channels from the other room too using your
remote control!

There's a bit more involved as you may also need to switch on the RF2
socket in the Sky "secret" menu - have a look at this website for more
help:

www.satcure.co.uk

Good Luck!

TT

Julie January 7th 08 02:33 PM

Sky + and extra room questions please
 
Thanks all for the helpful advice....I think, for me, my easiet option is to
go via Sky and then rig up the old box when i get around to it!!

J
"paddytt" wrote in message
...
On Jan 3, 1:48 pm, wrote:
Hi

I have 2 questions please that I find I (with my limited undestanding
of these things) cannot get clear by searching!

I have a Sky subscription.as there is no freeeview and bad analogue
reception where I live, attached to main TV and DVD recorder. I have a
second TV with only analogue channels (4)

I would like a sky+ box on the main TV and access (but only
occasionally) to the ordinary Sky on a second TV.

Is there a way to do either or both of these things without paying for
multiroom access as it does not warrant paying out for that? Also if I
buy a plus box from ebay do I just plug it in or is there more to do?
Can I then plug the old sky box into the second TV....if so how do I
get it to fit with the cabling....is there a splitter or somwthing.

Please help!!
Julie


Julie

There's a socket (called RF2) on the back of all Sky boxes. Connect a
TV to it using normal TV aerial cable and you can watch the same
picture on both TV's for no extra cost. If you have a TV socket in
your wall that you don't use (you said your reception was poor) then
try plugging the RF2 socket into that, and in your attic connect the
cable from the aerial to the other room instead. Then the picture
will appear on the other TV in the other room. We have the same pic
on 4 TV's in 4 different rooms this way (but we need a booster to
power it all!)

You can even change the channels from the other room too using your
remote control!

There's a bit more involved as you may also need to switch on the RF2
socket in the Sky "secret" menu - have a look at this website for more
help:

www.satcure.co.uk

Good Luck!

TT





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