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Mark McIntyre December 31st 07 02:21 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:35:09 +0000, Eeyore wrote:


As I'm sure you well know, an 8128 kbps sync will give you a 7150 kbps
profile. I've had over 98% of that on speed tests and have posted links
to them previously.


Just for reference, I get between 3.7 and 3.9 Mbps from my VM 4 Mbps
connection whenever I can be bothered to test it, mrtg tells me my peak
was 4070.8 kbps, and the gnome netmeter applet tells me I'm maxing the
connection from time to time.

MJ Ray December 31st 07 02:24 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 
Lobster wrote: [...]
Presumably there's no other way of getting Sky 1 other than subscribing
to Sky?


Not only do you have to subscribe to Sky, you have to use their PoS
digibox receiver for it (plus extra subscription if you want Hard
Disk Recording) and they'll try to install one of their odd-shaped
dishes. Freedom of choice? Not if Sky can help it. Avoid.

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Mark McIntyre December 31st 07 02:49 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:57:54 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Mark McIntyre wrote:

Lobster wrote:

bt.com's postcode speed checker claims 5.5Mb max.


Expect somewhat less than that, then!


On exactly what basis


On the basis of the postcode speed checker being a theoretical limit,
based on calculated line length and assuming good condition cabling and
no other interference or attentuating factors.

other than the idea came out of your backside ?


Unlike some posters here, I don't use my backside for talking out of.

Mark McIntyre December 31st 07 02:51 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:56:42 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Mark McIntyre wrote:


Why not ditch the TV and phone, and speak to Retentions to get a deal
on the broadband.


What ? Retain the WORST service they provide !


You're bizarre. The OP clearly said his BB was fine, but his DTV was
missing features and he felt the phone was overpriced.

Only YOU could suggest that.


Or someone else who can a) read and b) reason.

Eeyore December 31st 07 06:33 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 


tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus
naza wrote:

but how many people get full 8mbps.

Me for one !

Exactly you for ONE. One person does not reflect the state of the
whole network.


I gather the average speed on MAX is around 5 Mbps.


Because you were getting crap speeds on VM does not
mean that every single person who joins VM or are connected to VM are
getting the same service. The Same for ADSL just becuase your getting
a great service does not mean everyone else is. There are probally
people out there who are with IDnet who dont get the same speeds as
you, yet they will get the same level of customer service.
How many Customers Does IDnet have exactly?


I have no exact idea. They have a fair number of largish business
customers. Quality you see.


Problem is if their any good they'll get swallowed up and bought out by
some bigger outfit .. like some have done already;(...


Only if they want to sell. It's currently a family business AIUI.

Same is potentially true of ANY company in ANY line of business. I fail to
see why you even mentioned it.

Graham


Eeyore December 31st 07 06:44 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 


stephen wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote in message

As I'm sure you well know, an 8128 kbps sync will give you a 7150 kbps
profile. I've had over 98% of that on speed tests and have posted links to

them
previously.


This is around 20% "hidden" overhead (due to the ATM cell structure?).

So compare this with cable where if everything is working you get all the
bandwidth as useable capacity (in my case AFAIR around 5% over the notional
4 Mbps).

So for downloads, it sounds like a 4 Mbps VM cable feed is roughly
equivalent to 4.8 Mbps ADSL when both are not limited by another bottleneck
somewhere, and until the VM STM kicks in.


Yes.

Graham


Eeyore December 31st 07 06:55 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 


Daffy Duck wrote:

In other words...no,you can't d/load at your full 8mbs despite claiming
that you can.


I have never claimed to be able to download at 8 Mbps you ignorant vile pathetic lying
little ****.

Graham



Eeyore December 31st 07 06:57 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 


Daffy Duck wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

What speeds do you get at peak times on what package ? I see little
slowdown with Idnet for example.


Have you forgotten your post of 15:09 on the 30th?,,,,you were getting a
speed of 5713kbs,that's over 25% less than the headline 8mbs and even
considerably slower than some other links you've posted......seems like
more than a little slowdown there.


That's what I call a 'little slowdown'. It's STILL 80% of the maximum
theoretical possible, unlike the 12% I was getting with VM at peak times.

Graham



Eeyore December 31st 07 06:58 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 


Mark McIntyre wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Woody wrote:

The VM broadband feed .... certainly meets or is very close to
quoted speed at almost all times - which it is guaranteed you will
not get with ADSL.


With VM's 4 meg service I was normally down to 500kbps at peak times.

You're talking complete and total nonsense about VM's alleged 'great'
broadband.


No, he was expressing his opinion, based on his own experience. His
opinion is no more nonsensical than yours.


But he was presenting it as the norm to be expected from VM and therefore
clearly totally wrong.


It's actually total ****e.


/Your/ service was total ****e. There's a difference.


We can at least agree on that.

Graham


Eeyore December 31st 07 07:12 AM

Should I quit Virginmedia?
 


Mark McIntyre wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Fair enough, but the comments in user groups illustrate that the vast
majority of comments about VM are very negative.


Hmm, so let me see - if you analyse the calls to CS,


Who said anything about CS ? As ever you can't resist changing the topic to
suit your own agenda..


you discover that
most people are calling to complain about problems. Golly.


I was talking about forums like the ones at thinkbroadband.com. If you think
the posts there are only ever from people complaining you're quite wrong.

The Idnet forum there is almost like a fan club.

Graham



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