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Technika AEDTR160S7

Hi all out there.
Just got the above and pleased with it so far, but can anyone tell me
how to transfer recording from the hard drive to my VCR?
I have connected everything as shown in the manual and tried to follow
the instructions for archiving, but there seems to be a stage missing,
i.e. actual transfer.

Technika AEDTR160S7

Thanks Paul and Bill.
Yes, it was the wrong AV channel! Too many G&T's before I set the
thing up!
Works fine. I like all the features of the unit. Good fast response to
all actions. Used to take an age for info to appear on my old
Panasonic DTB.

On 28 Dec, 11:13, wrote:
Hi all out there.
Just got the above and pleased with it so far, but can anyone tell me
how to transfer recording from the hard drive to my VCR?
I have connected everything as shown in the manual and tried to follow
the instructions for archiving, but there seems to be a stage missing,
i.e. actual transfer.

Technika AEDTR160S7

In message , Paul Heslop
writes
Cool. My son is after a new one so I know where to point him.

We got one earlier this week. Most functions work as expected, and it's
easy enough to use, but I've had several failures when recording
programmes via the Electronic Programme Guide: you press the record
button and it adds the programme to the timer list. In that list the
nominal start and end times are ok. In some cases, however, the
recording has started correctly, but then carried on for nearly 3 hours
(when actual time was 30 mins, typically). This has now occurred for 4
recordings out of about 10, which eats up the disc rather a lot.

Recordings set with manual start and stop times seem to be ok (but
actually I've only done this a couple of times, so for all I know there
may be an intermittent fault with these as well, but that seems less
likely).

I don't know whether it's a fault with the firmware, or the broadcast
flags which tell it when the programme finishes are defective. If the
former I'll take it back to Tesco and get a refund.

I've phoned the Tesco helpline, of course, and though they sounded
helpful they really hadn't a clue. It didn't seem that this was a
reported fault.

Does anyone else have experience of this or similar recorders when
relying on the programme delivery control to stop the recording?

--
Clive Page

Technika AEDTR160S7

In article ,
Clive Page wrote:
In message , Paul Heslop
writes
Cool. My son is after a new one so I know where to point him.

[..]
I don't know whether it's a fault with the firmware, or the broadcast
flags which tell it when the programme finishes are defective. If the
former I'll take it back to Tesco and get a refund.

I've phoned the Tesco helpline, of course, and though they sounded
helpful they really hadn't a clue. It didn't seem that this was a
reported fault.

Does anyone else have experience of this or similar recorders when
relying on the programme delivery control to stop the recording?

Yes, I've had this apparent lack of PDC happen, but
only very occasionally. For what it's worth my
transmitter is Tacolneston ...(read on)!

It mostly seems to occur in overnight recordings, or
when I've been extensively editing and swopping about
an EPG acquired advance recording schedule ..ie the
'fault' being that the selected recording doesn't
finish and then runs into the next proggie and even
a bit of the later follow-on.

My guess, (for that is all it can be neither having
the software nor the experienced expertise to hand),
is that it 'feels' very much a 'feature' of the TV
company, or the transmitting agent, that is putting
out the broadcast.

Similar to the same 'feature' that used to plague
the PDC of VHS broadcasts not too many years ago -
where ITV could miss the PDC flags out altogether on
many proggies.

BBC1 were a devil for doing so with progs starting just
before or just after midnight on a Friday night/early
Saturday morning. This couldn't half confuse the PDC
system ..quite often it meant that decent films were
missed, except for the first useless ten minutes (An
altogether more serious problem than the present one
of getting it all along with the next hour or so as
well)..! There was a website somewhere that used to
take punter's reports when this happened! ;'))

It may ..(similarly to the non-appearance of series
linking flags, which I know do work 'coz I've had
them testing on occasion) ..merely be a lack of the
transmission of the specific Freeview Digital flags,
similar to the same lack with early VHS PDC. I guess
no-one is quite yet up to speed.

On the positive side and for the vast majority of the
time, nearly all digital transmissions now start and
end 'on time' ..even better than the their older VHS
counterparts. Check your library list and you will
see such as "CSI.." labelled with finite lengths as
"58m 14s", "57m 23s", "59m 24s" and so on....

I think I'd wait a little and see if if the matter does
improve, either through an automatic part OAD or just a
general improvement as all the companies and their various
proggies come up to speed with the latest and most recent
Freeview Playback (gpII) standards. (You are leaving
your Tekkie in 'standby' overnight..? It needs to be
in standby and possibly a main channel such as BBC1 or
whatever if it's to pick up any automatic OAD that's
hovering around the muxes at 03h00)

Other than that I must admit my Technika AEDTR160S7 seems
a fast, very responsive and quite intuitive beast to use
...well up to both the Tech(nika) savvy as well as caring
for those many who have no pretension and are perfectly
happy with an easy, lo-cost and mostly glitch-free life... :))

hh :))

Bill ZFC

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In message , "Bill (Adopt)"
writes
My guess, (for that is all it can be neither having
the software nor the experienced expertise to hand),
is that it 'feels' very much a 'feature' of the TV
company, or the transmitting agent, that is putting
out the broadcast.

You may be right. I've tried to test it a bit more, as 3 out of 4
failures have been when I've set up two programmes to record
concurrently, and I wondered if that was liable to confuse its tiny
brain. But I've now tried several times to record two programmes which
partially overlap, and had no failures at all. These intermittent
faults are rather frustrating.

I'm getting signals from Sandy Heath (I forgot to mention before).

On the positive side and for the vast majority of the
time, nearly all digital transmissions now start and
end 'on time' ..even better than the their older VHS
counterparts. Check your library list and you will
see such as "CSI.." labelled with finite lengths as
"58m 14s", "57m 23s", "59m 24s" and so on....

I'm not quite sure of this - I see these odd lengths, but have had a
couple of recordings from BBC1 where the recording has started late by a
minute or sot - I think that's when they started the programme early,
which the BBC does sometimes, and is very annoying (they seem to have
enough stupid trailers, why not fit another one in?).

Freeview Playback (gpII) standards. (You are leaving
your Tekkie in 'standby' overnight..?

Indeed. I've also tried the "check for software upgrade" option 3
times. Twice it hung for at least 15 minutes, once worked as it is
supposed to (I presume) and the progress bar advanced slowly, then told
me there was no software download available.

Other than that I must admit my Technika AEDTR160S7 seems
a fast, very responsive and quite intuitive beast to use
..well up to both the Tech(nika) savvy as well as caring
for those many who have no pretension and are perfectly
happy with an easy, lo-cost and mostly glitch-free life... :))

Yes, on the whole it seems ok. One other drawback: I measured power
consumption as 19 W in operation, 18 W in standby. This seems a bit
excessive, and hardly worth having a standby mode at all, it seems to
me.

--
Clive Page

Technika AEDTR160S7

In article ,
Clive Page wrote:
In message , "Bill (Adopt)"
writes
My guess, (for that is all it can be neither having
the software nor the experienced expertise to hand),
is that it 'feels' very much a 'feature' of the TV
company, or the transmitting agent, that is putting
out the broadcast.

You may be right. I've tried to test it a bit more, as 3 out of 4
failures have been when I've set up two programmes to record
concurrently, and I wondered if that was liable to confuse its tiny
brain. But I've now tried several times to record two programmes which
partially overlap, and had no failures at all. These intermittent
faults are rather frustrating.

Yes, I would agree that it must be quite frustrating,
although I seem to have had only the couple of occasions
when this concatenation of programmes occurred. As I
said, my inexpert guess is that this is more a failing
of digital flag transmission, or perhaps a transmitter
failing with the continually updated EPG that's the
case.

I'm getting signals from Sandy Heath (I forgot to mention before).

Thank you :)) The transmitters (Talcolneston here) - or
rather the techies who are responsible for the PDC flags
and the progs that they are transmitting have, in the past,
demonstrated differences between the various transmitters...

On the positive side and for the vast majority of the
time, nearly all digital transmissions now start and
end 'on time' ..even better than the their older VHS
counterparts. Check your library list and you will
see such as "CSI.." labelled with finite lengths as
"58m 14s", "57m 23s", "59m 24s" and so on....

I'm not quite sure of this - I see these odd lengths, but have had a
couple of recordings from BBC1 where the recording has started late by a
minute or sot - I think that's when they started the programme early,
which the BBC does sometimes, and is very annoying (they seem to have
enough stupid trailers, why not fit another one in?).

Yes, that does happen and it is rather annoying, but
as I said earlier, it may be that some proggies - or
the transmitter techies, are just not getting the flags
correctly incorporated ..ITV for instance are even worse
at starting some films well into the first titles.

On the other hand, there may be two advantages in this,
noticeable when archiving, in that some of the major
studio's seems to present a form of blocking that makes
a dvd recorder switch off right at the start of a film.
(Leave the same film for a minute into the film and then
start the recording, just as the first title starts or
nears it's end and all is ok ..the film archives).

As for the proggy lengths I noted, my experience is that
for much of the time these are the actual content lengths.
There seems to be little need to insert padding either
into the pre-amble or at the end of the proggie ..ie that
the digital PDCs seem to be much more accurate, where
available, than were their VHS analogue counterparts where
avaible.

Of course and as said earlier, all this only operates when
the digital flags are actually transmitted ..not, I guess,
always the case!

Freeview Playback (gpII) standards. (You are leaving
your Tekkie in 'standby' overnight..?

Indeed. I've also tried the "check for software upgrade" option 3
times. Twice it hung for at least 15 minutes, once worked as it is
supposed to (I presume) and the progress bar advanced slowly, then told
me there was no software download available.

Similar here ..but I guess that before long there'll be
some OAD information available ..but as it's an auto thingy
and we're advised to leave our Technika's available at 03h00,
then I guess it may be just as well to do as suggested through
these early uptake months.

Although I did read somewhere and a few weeks ago that
the firmware designer(s) now have a v3.9 firmware version
available and possibly a further v4.2 nearly ready, (which
might supersede the v3.9 anyway - or may already have done
so with even later version) ..my version is presently at
v3.7.

I did have an earlier Techwood, (was it only four months ago!),
not dissimilar from the present rash of Maplin, Hitachi and
possibly Digihomeythingytype offers, that sported the early
versions of the v2.4 firmware package, along with an even
tinier half-pint memory and HDD. It was buggy and although
had a 'nice feel', refused to cooperate fully, so was returned.
(I think also reported here at the time - the HDD failed as
well)...

Other than that I must admit my Technika AEDTR160S7 seems
a fast, very responsive and quite intuitive beast to use
..well up to both the Tech(nika) savvy as well as caring
for those many who have no pretension and are perfectly
happy with an easy, lo-cost and mostly glitch-free life... :))

Yes, on the whole it seems ok. One other drawback: I measured power
consumption as 19 W in operation, 18 W in standby. This seems a bit
excessive, and hardly worth having a standby mode at all, it seems to
me.

I guess you mean leaving the Technika powered 'on' 24/7.

You may well be correct. Perhaps there's no real need
in the modern world for a standbye mode ..certainly some
of those machines that emulate TiVo, such as BT's, Virgin
Media's or perhaps Sky's pegged offerings et al and which
record EPGs, innumerable adverts, information and/or down
-load whole 'on demand' proggies overnight - are also
likely to be active 24/7. That is the way of the present
'on demand' TV/internet techie leanings, I guess.

I suppose, with this in mind, one can take the view that
either 18w for an led 'standby' and 'lookout' is rather
expensive, (if that's all the Technika's doing), or that
alternatively an overall 19w for an fully active machine
supporting the rapid access and the many positive features
of the Technika is not only cheap(ish) but very cost-
effective for the complete job...

Yup ..it's on the whole expensive when there are other
appliances that only draw 5w to apparently light a non
-essential glowing led.

Not sure how the Technika compares in all this with an
earlier 'average' VHS recorder left on continual standbye
...perhaps the usual mode for the vast majority of users
to date..?

To save power, of course, one should arguably only switch
on for the programme that one wants ..and switch off again
immediately after that showing. Not having an HDD would
also cut down on power usage ..but I guess none of us are
going to be quite that single minded of green purpose. I
mean, what would happen to all those Microsoft PC Users? ;'))

I guess we'll have to wait a while longer for our power
saving circuits and technology to develop further.

Anyway ..sort of hope helps where it might and adds just
a smidgeon to the discourse around general issues without
being toooo longwinded.. :))

regards

Bill ZFC
e&oe.. of course!! ;'))

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In message , "Bill (Adopt)"
writes
As for the proggy lengths I noted, my experience is that
for much of the time these are the actual content lengths.
There seems to be little need to insert padding either
into the pre-amble or at the end of the proggie ..ie that
the digital PDCs seem to be much more accurate, where
available, than were their VHS analogue counterparts where
avaible.

That's good, as this model doesn't seem to have any facility for adding
a padding at either end (except by inserting a timed program manually,
in which case the program name isn't stored in the library of
recordings).

Yes, on the whole it seems ok. One other drawback: I measured power
consumption as 19 W in operation, 18 W in standby. This seems a bit
excessive, and hardly worth having a standby mode at all, it seems to
me.

I did it a slight injustice: it takes a few minutes after use for the
disc to stop rotating. After that standby consumption drops to 11 W,
which is the figure I should have quoted. I worked out that this will
cost us about £7.70 over the course of a year, at present electricity
prices, which I suppose isn't too bad.

However it's replacing an old VHS recorder which on standby only used 7
W. Our now rather elderly TV uses 14 W on standby (but we don't leave
it like that for long). All the same, these standby figures all add up,
don't they. The problem with modern devices like the TV recorder is
that you feel the need to leave it on all the time else you don't get
updates to the EPG, and maybe software, which happen overnight.

--
Clive Page

Technika AEDTR160S7

In article ,
Clive Page wrote:
In message , "Bill (Adopt)"
writes
As for the proggy lengths I noted, my experience is that
for much of the time these are the actual content lengths.
There seems to be little need to insert padding either
into the pre-amble or at the end of the proggie ..ie that
the digital PDCs seem to be much more accurate, where
available, than were their VHS analogue counterparts where
avaible.

That's good, as this model doesn't seem to have any facility for adding
a padding at either end (except by inserting a timed program manually,
in which case the program name isn't stored in the library of
recordings).

I'm purely guessing that, under Freeview Playback II,
perhaps the 'padding' shouldn't really be needed..?
Not storing the title in manual mode, mind, might be
a bit of an oversight, perhaps a correction in later
OADs..? (Is there a way of writing in your own title
in the manual mode ..ie as the archiving title facility?

Yes, on the whole it seems ok. One other drawback: I measured power
consumption as 19 W in operation, 18 W in standby. This seems a bit
excessive, and hardly worth having a standby mode at all, it seems to
me.

I did it a slight injustice: it takes a few minutes after use for the
disc to stop rotating. After that standby consumption drops to 11 W,
which is the figure I should have quoted. I worked out that this will
cost us about £7.70 over the course of a year, at present electricity
prices, which I suppose isn't too bad.

However it's replacing an old VHS recorder which on standby only used 7
W. Our now rather elderly TV uses 14 W on standby (but we don't leave
it like that for long). All the same, these standby figures all add up,
don't they. The problem with modern devices like the TV recorder is
that you feel the need to leave it on all the time else you don't get
updates to the EPG, and maybe software, which happen overnight.

Yes, indeed, but I wonder just how much of a problem
the power consumption really is? Yes ..there's a
small expense involved, but it may rather put things
in context if we compare it as using the same amount
of power (or less) than a single low power cfl light
source that we're to be required to use from this year
(2008) onward, ie less than one fifth of the power of
the old standard 100w light bulb.

Deduction, btw, suggests that the Technika AEDTR160S7's
standby mode is basically identical to it's fully active
mode, with merely the video/audio links and a section of
it's FL display switched out.

The roughly 7w saving with the hard drive powered down,
that you've noted, will operate whether or not the pvr
is in active or standy mode ..the drive powers down after
a minute or so in each case ..even whilst the User is
still busy instigating a search of or flicking through
the EPG for the next seven or eight days!

Mind, this is all a bit nit-picking ;)) My guess is
that the Technika AEDTR160S7 is now rapidly becoming
one of the true contenders for the shared crown held
for the moment by Topfield and Humax. At around half
the price or less and with such a comprehensive set
of seemless add-on features working straight out of
the box, there's certainly an awful lot to recommend
it, for all ages and for most users needs ..but then,
such is 'progress'..

...hope interests ;))

Bill ZFC
btw ..I'm not in the employ of either Technika or Tesco,
although quite happy to claim my 10.00gbp, (or even more!),
should they ever offer.. ;'))

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In message , "Bill (Adopt)"
writes
I'm purely guessing that, under Freeview Playback II,
perhaps the 'padding' shouldn't really be needed..?

In theory, yes.

Not storing the title in manual mode, mind, might be
a bit of an oversight, perhaps a correction in later
OADs..? (Is there a way of writing in your own title
in the manual mode ..ie as the archiving title facility?

Not that I can find.

My guess is
that the Technika AEDTR160S7 is now rapidly becoming
one of the true contenders for the shared crown held
for the moment by Topfield and Humax.
Yes, probably.

By the way, I did some more tests yesterday to record a number of short
programmes with partial or complete overlaps, and only one had the off
time extended too much, and with that I was quick enough to use the info
button to see that someone had been tardy in updating the "current
programme" information. I guess it's probably the fault of the
broadcasting stations when the recorder fails to stop at the right time.
I also found out what happens if the recording on one channel over-runs
the schedule start of another (when you are already using the 2nd tuner
for something else): the second programme doesn't start on time, but it
does start as soon as the conflicting one finishes. I guess that's a
sensible choice on the part of the software designer.

All I'm waiting for now is some hacker working out how to replace its
160 GB disc with a terabyte, or something similar!

--
Clive Page

Technika AEDTR160S7

I have had a subtley different problem to this
I set a series record for "The Professionals", but when i got home had a big
load of "rikki lake" different channel different time.

When i looked in the timers list there she was about 10 times !

I tried to record "The Professionals" series again and again my timer log
filled up with "rikki " flaming "lake !

I get my diganl from wenvoe, my box says its s/w version is V.2.7

Any one else had the same trouble ??

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Technika AEDTR160S7

hywel clatworthy wrote:

Any one else had the same trouble ??

Unfortunately no one on usenet has a clue what you are on about. Give
myreader a miss and install a decent newsreader?

http://improve-usenet.org/

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Adrian C

Technika AEDTR160S7