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Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray?
Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the
first models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that
favorable).
Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD?
Will prices be much lower than today?

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On Dec 18, 11:53 am, Sam wrote:
Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray?
Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the
first models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that
favorable).
Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD?
Will prices be much lower than today?

If anyone knows that, they probably buy only winning lottery tickets.
Check back next year, the answers will be available then.

GG

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:53:16 -0500, Sam wrote:

Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray?

Probably not.

Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets

Does Macy's tell Gimbels???

Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD?

They already have. Look at the latest Sony XBR's.

Will prices be much lower than today?

Yes, always.

A_C

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:53:16 -0500, Sam wrote:

Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray? Will
Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the first
models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that favorable).
Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD? Will prices
be much lower than today?

looking into my crystal ball, I see HDTV prices a little lower, but not
much. If you spend enough, you can limit the blurring. Don't see anything
about thin bezel. I see HD-VMD players making it a 3 way race for DVD
players. Now I think I'll go drop my crystal ball into my cold drink so it
stays cold.:-)

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On Dec 18, 2:53 pm, Sam wrote:
Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray?
Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the
first models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that
favorable).
Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD?
Will prices be much lower than today?

1) Yes you can expect to know that it will be Blu-ray in about 4-5
months from now.
2) Who knows - look at CES 2008 in 20 days to see what Sony and Sammy
announce
3) Somewhat, but still not as good as plasma. The plasmas still test
300 lines better than the 120Hz LCD sets
4) How much lower can they get? If the technology is changing (LED
LCD's?) then the price will not. Plasma will continue to drop the most.

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Agent_C" wrote in message
... On Tue, 18
Dec 2007 14:53:16 -0500, Sam wrote:
Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets

Does Macy's tell Gimbels???

Since Gimbels closed in the 1980s, no. ;)

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On Dec 19, 10:08 am, Kimba W Lion kimbawlion wrote:
Sam wrote:
Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray?

Only if Sony's CEO follows through on his previous comments regretting the
whole Blu-Ray thing.

Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the
first models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that
favorable).

What's the big deal about thin bezel?

Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD?

I think they have already.

Will prices be much lower than today?

Hard to say. I bought mine in August, and the price has gone up since
then. I see other brands flirting with the same price, when on sale.

FUD - The CEO's comments were taking massively out of context and I
think you know that. He has never mentioned regretting Blu-ray, only
that he wished the format war had never happened and that they had
agreed on one format, but that was always going to be Blu-ray; the
major CE's have been developing Blu-ray since December 2001, which is
when most people were just picking up their first DVD player.

The entire context of the interview you have misconstrued just as the
AP did is he

Adler: Of course, one of the big fights right now is Blu-ray vs. HD-
DVD for the high definition video market. I mean, the first and most
obvious question is: Shouldn't there just be one format? Why should
people have to choose between the two? And is there any possibility
that we'll be heading there?

Stringer: I should point out that that is not part of the software
battle. I mean, that's actually in some ways sort of anachronistic.
We're fighting over a packaged goods hardware that will not go on
forever, from a classic sense. We have a more expensive version, as
Sony tends to, and Toshiba has a cheaper version, which seems to keep
getting cheaper. I believe it has slowed down the progress of high
definition packaged goods. Oddly, the studios kind of liked it for a
while. They were able to leverage one of us against each other. But in
the end, it's counterproductive. We have a sort of stalemate at the
moment. As you know, they had fewer studios, but then they paid a lot
of money for Paramount. So we have four studios and they have two or
three studios. It's a difficult... it's a difficult fight. There was a
chance to integrate it before I became CEO. This is something I
inherited. And I don't know what broke down. I wish I could go back
there, because I heard it was all about saving face and losing face,
and all the rest of it. But it's not a battle about the digital
future. That's what's so strange about it. If it doesn't work out,
that doesn't say very much about where we're all going. It's just...
it's a scorecard: one-nothing or something. But it doesn't mean as
much as all that. PlayStation 3 will still go on playing games. It
would have to have a different disk drive. And that's about it really.

Adler: So when a consumer now has to choose between the two, if they
want to get into the high definition video, Wal-Mart was selling the
Toshiba HD-DVD for $99 last Friday for a couple of days. Usually, it's
been $199 there. I think your list price is $499 for Blu-ray. That's
an enormously big difference, particularly in a slowing economy. Can
you play that game with the difference being that great?

Stringer: Well... we've been selling them as fast as we're making them
because the brand -- first of all, we're not the only ones selling
them at that price. So is Panasonic, so is Samsung, so is Sharp. And
one of the reasons it's more expensive is because it does more. The
bandwidth is greater. If you just want a two-hour movie, the Toshiba
version is a high definition picture. But we thought that to drive
high definition into the customer's imagination, you should future-
proof the disks so that you could have director's cuts, which are
fairly obvious. We have six to seven hours of bandwidth available. You
can have interactivity in three dimensions. We would be prepared to
allow the package goods to survive much longer by making it much more
innovative. But that does make the player more expensive. Now, they
all come down. The race is to bring costs down. It always is in
consumer electronics. So it isn't going to stay at $499.

Adler: But are you surprised by how little Toshiba can sell its unit
for?

Stringer: No, because -- look, I can sell it for a dollar. I'd lose a
lot of money, but if you want to go that route, it's a tough
competition, and it seems to be about a lot of things, including face.
So if you want to cut the price down and engage us in a price war,
that's a different system. We were trying to win on the merits, which
we were doing for a while until Paramount changed sides.

Adler: Microsoft seems to have an interesting role in this. They're
selling add-on HD-DVD drives for the -- they're taking HD-DVD to the
Xbox, and Xbox competes strongly with you. Is Microsoft kind of
working in cahoots or in alliance with Toshiba on HD-DVD? Is that a
competitive challenge to you?

Stringer: Only the spirits know. [laughs] Yeah... you never know with
Microsoft do you? You never know. Xbox versus PS3 is sort of a
subplot. What Microsoft's role is in that? I don't know. We're still
selling software at a faster level than Toshiba. Obviously, we care
about the software side more than the Toshiba does. It doesn't have a
studio. It doesn't own a studio. So it's in our interest to --
actually the most significant thing in some ways about Blu-ray, going
back to Microsoft... the Blu-ray Disc has a very high security level,
which Fox in particular, but also other studios, was most excited
about -- wanted to have some protection from instant ripping. So the
specs that went into the Blu-ray, which were done in conjunction with
many studios, had this security level. That is probably not in
Microsoft's interests. The Toshiba disk is certainly far easier to
rip. Whether you like that or don't like that depends on your consumer
enthusiasm.

Does that sound like he regrets Blu-ray?

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:08:24 -0500, Kimba W Lion kimbawlion wrote:

Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the
first models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that
favorable).

What's the big deal about thin bezel?

I would be able to squeeze a 46" diagonal model into an area a little
over 42' wide.

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"Sam" wrote in message
...
Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray?

Maybe. But sony sucks.

Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the
first models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that
favorable).


sony is a four letter word, the Samsung LED DLP has a bezel thats just a bit
wider than half an inch, and its available now for under $2000. The
Mitsubishi is an excellent TV, but it does have a color wheel.

Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD?

Yes, its called 120 Hz refresh, and its been around for over a year.

Will prices be much lower than today?

No. But cheaper 720p sets will become increasingly hard to find, as
manufacturers close them out in favor of the 1080 sets, which are more
expensive.

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On Dec 19, 11:24 am, "Deke" no wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message

...

Can I expect a better sense of whether it will be HD or Blu-Ray?

Maybe. But sony sucks.

Will Sony and Samsung have thin bezel LCD sets ( the reviews of the
first models from Mitsubishi and Toshiba have not been that
favorable).

sony is a four letter word, the Samsung LED DLP has a bezel thats just a bit
wider than half an inch, and its available now for under $2000. The
Mitsubishi is an excellent TV, but it does have a color wheel.

Will they have the rapid motion blur problem licked for LCD?

Yes, its called 120 Hz refresh, and its been around for over a year.

Will prices be much lower than today?

No. But cheaper 720p sets will become increasingly hard to find, as
manufacturers close them out in favor of the 1080 sets, which are more
expensive.

All Sony and Samsung panels for LCD's are made at the same factory
which is jointly owned by Sony and Samsung.
Also they don't have the rapid motion blur problem licked, rapid
motion is still the worst on LCD's, particularly when compared with
plasma panels.

The highest tested LCD panel was the new LED model from Samsung, which
managed 800 lines on the motion test with Motion Plus set to "ON" -
the Pioneer plasma hits 900 lines. That Samsung LED is a 60Hz model.
Most of the 120Hz LCD's tested score between 550-650 lines on the
motion resolution test. The Panasonic plasmas all scored 880.

I'd hardly call it fixed, but the new 60Hz LED model from Samsung
bested all the 120Hz models for motion resolution. It still could not
compare with the Panasonic and Pioneer plasmas for motion resolution
and accurate blacks.