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BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
"Jeff Gaines" wrote...
Adrian A wrote: No, I was refering to Digital Onscreen Graphics which I, among others, find really annoying. Ah, light has dawned :-) They are annoying, I didn't know that was what they are called. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/tv-channel-dogs/ Matti |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched (LONG)
Enough of this ageism, it's illegal now anyway, but more to the point,
Anna should be respected for choosing to grow old naturally and with dignity rather than trying to put off the inevitable and hide the unhideable by surgery, caking on the cosmetics, dying her hair to mismatch her eyebrows, etc. And Anna was a beauty in her time ... probably the main reason for otherwise disinterested young men to watch the News! There's even a rose named after her. I'd be proud to walk down the street with her, then or now. ***** Mention of her reminds me (a relative of hers lived nearby to the following) of just about the funniest thing that ever happened to me .... It's a rather long story, but worth the telling ... In my previous career in agriculture, during my final year at agricultural college, I rented a cottage in a picturesque, touristy village. I considered myself lucky to get such a beautiful home at a price I could just about afford, the only mild drawbacks being that occasionally the owner would return for a weekend of social whirl, and that I had to feed her cat. On such terms, I agreed without a murmur of dissent to cash in advance. The cat was quite friendly. As anyone approached, it would roll over on its back to have its tummy rubbed, and any tourist worth the name would bend down to oblige with an: "Ah! How sweet!", but, as I began to realise, appearances can be deceptive - in reality this innocent-looking bundle of fur was a killer! As spring drew into summer, I noticed that it was no longer eating the food I was putting out, which I had to keep throwing away as it began to stink in the increasing heat, but, as the endearing little creature was obviously in good health, initially I presumed that neighbours were feeding it, and wasn't too concerned. But then I noticed it hunting in the Nature Reserve, just the other side of the road and the stream from the cottage ... Around this time, my car broke down, and I had to hitch into town to get a part. My lift back was in one of those Noddy car Hillman Imps, driven by a kindly gentleman - though again I was to discover that appearances can be deceptive - who from his hangman's noose collar was clearly the local vicar. Apart from the strong smell of dog which somehow seemed to remain after I'd been dropped off, there had been a labrador dozing in the back, I was grateful for the lift. A few days later, this same gent, complete with regards to dog, but incomplete with regards to neckwear, causing me some initial difficulty in remembering who he was, knocked on the front door. "I say! Hello again!", he began, and after a few polite formalities he added in a meaningful tone: "You have a cat, don't you?" I confirmed. "Well. We've just had a Parish Council meeting ...", now I remembered, "... and we're most concerned about the number of ducklings it's killing! The wildlife here is such an asset to the village, you know, it helps bring people in. It's such a terrible thing, what your cat is doing!" I was too taken aback to reply. For one thing, it wasn't really my cat, and for another I couldn't really see how to stop it in a way that would be acceptable to the RSPCA, not to mention its real owner. "You do feed it, don't you?!" he asked suddenly, as though he hoped to catch me out, but on this point at least I was safe. I pointed to the fresh, though rapidly becoming less so in the afternoon heat, plate of food on the kitchen floor, untouched by Moggus Domesticus. "Oh!", he said, taken aback, as though he had quite made up his mind in advance that I must have been starving it near to death, and in the obvious absence of a Plan B, he could only think of repeating Plan A, even though I had just discounted this. So several times we went round the same dance-floor: "Wildlife ... Nature Reserve ... asset to the Parish ... visitors ... popular tourist destination ... terrible shame ... " and each time ending with something like: "Ah you quite sure you are feeding it properly?!". He showed no sign of letting up, and it was beginning to get boring. At least, I thought so, and his dog seemed to agree, for it lifted its leg on one of the garden flowers, and wandered off (a week later, that plant was dead - I was rather unhappy about that, actually). Finally, to put an end to it, the next time he asked: "You do feed it, don't you?!" I began to ask him which he would choose, tinned corned beef or fresh Aylesbury duckling? Just at that moment there was a tremendous commotion from the stream; splashing, frantic quacking, and the guy who had rented the holiday cottage next door for a week was yelling up the bank at the vicar: "HEY YOU! Come and get yer f**king dog, it's got one of the f**king ducks!" and much, much more besides, all in a similar style ... Meanwhile, he was chasing ineffectually hither and thither after the dog, which was surprisingly nimble, like an Aladdin on tranquillisers trying to catch a genie on speed. What exactly can you do if you are a vicar subjected to a torrent of aggressive verbal abuse from a stranger? Particularly, in front of your own parishioners, you can't exactly bollock the guy back, can you? I dare say he wished he'd worn his, ahem, dog-collar, but you needn't feel for our hero, well not much anyway, because these people are well trained in their calling ... you could practically see the cartoon clouds of whirring cogwheels above his head as he tried to think his way out of his predicament. His choice soon became clear. It was: pacify the man! "It's alright!", he said, "He's a gun dog! He won't harm it!". I should perhaps explain that a gun dog is trained to retrieve downed birds, dead or alive, by picking them up and holding them in their jaws while carrying them back to their master. That is, they are specifically trained NOT to bite down on the bird, which would damage it. I knew this, so I knew what he was trying to say, but unfortunately for him the neighbour was a townie and didn't. In fact, the vicar couldn't have said a worse thing. His very calmness and complaisance had exactly the opposite effect to that intended, it was like a red rag to a bull: "Waddya mean it won't f**king hurt it! It's got the f**king thing in its f**king teeth, ain't it?!" and another machine gun burst of abuse followed. Obviously, amidst all this the last person the dog was going to obey was the neighbour, and indeed, with it being distracted by all his aggressive noise and shouting and chasing, it was only with difficulty that the vicar called it to order and retrieved the victim. The bird flapped its wings experimentally a few times and then flew off into the reserve, obviously both shaken and stirred, but not, apparently, harmed. By this time I straining at the seams so much to contain my laughter that when the vicar came back to conclude the discussion with as not much dignity as he could scrape together, I didn't even think to ask him whether he'd been feeding his dog properly ... ***** There is a postscript to this story, which is also quite amusing, and but more revealing ... A few months later I was working on a farm during the summer holidays, and related the above to my boss. It turned that he had formerly been on the Parish Council, and knew the vicar well: "Keen shooting man! I think that's probably rot about the wildlife and the tourism, he just wanted a go at the ducklings when they became ducks in season!" He then went on to relate how a bypass for the village had been much discussed over many years, with many plans coming along, being objected to by one interested party or another, and so falling by the wayside. Finally, to everyone's relief, a plan evolved that seemed to meet the needs and also avoid all the previous objections. There was new optimism surrounding the procedures to put it through, but, to everyone's surprise and dismay, the vicar objected to it. Noone could understand why, and when pressed his reasons didn't seem convincing. Nevertheless, he succeeding in obstructing the plan to the extent that it, too, fell by the wayside. It was only some years later that it was discovered that the vicar had shooting rights over a plot of land that would have been tarmacced over! Therein lay the real reason for his objection ... All things bright and beautiful, All creatures great and small, All things wise and wonderful, I love to blast them all! Far be it from me to suggest that the world would be a better place if all religious people wore their trousers the same way round as their collars. You may suggest it, I may even think it, but I couldn't possibly comment further ... On 3 Dec 2007 16:35:34 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" wrote: On 03/12/2007 in message Adrian A wrote: Jeff Gaines wrote: What's wrong with dogs? Is that a rhetorical question? Not at all. I am a bit confused as to whether you are referring to man's best friend or Anna Ford. |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
Brian McIlwrath wrote:
In uk.tech.tv.sky Michael Chare wrote: : Take a look at the recent threads over on digitalspy. Someone has a : pre-production STBs Yes - and he believes that the presence of Channel 4 and Five (and all the other C4 channels) on his pre-production EPG means that they will be present on the real one at launch! I thought the DVB spec stated that each "Network" source had to carry "other Network" SI? Network in this instance being a source of DVB. So ch 4 & 5 data being present was merely the implementation of this? |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
In uk.tech.digital-tv Dickie mint wrote:
: : Yes - and he believes that the presence of Channel 4 and Five (and all : the other C4 channels) on his pre-production EPG means that they will be : present on the real one at launch! : I thought the DVB spec stated that each "Network" source had to carry : "other Network" SI? Network in this instance being a source of DVB. Don't follow that at all! There is presently a development Freesat EPG being transmitted which is only for manufacturers and testing use. The presence or absence of channels in this is likely to bear little relation to what happens at public launch. In any event channels are having to sign up (and pay!) for Freesat separately to Sky so its EPG will look quite different. I don't know what this "Network Source" is! |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
Clive. wrote:
In message , " writes What you're trying to say is correct (i.e. currently you need to pay money to Sky to get PVR functionality on their service) - but of course that _could_ be provided by Sky for "free" - it will be interesting to see just how much Sky want to hurt Freesat. Sky "giving away" PVR functionality would make Freesat irrelevant for many consumers. I've just had Sky+ installed for £49. I was told it was a promotion for us in the Whitehaven area, no installation fee and no monthly £10 subscription. I'll be keeping a close eye on my bank statements. Can you record stuff to the HD? Clem |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
In message , Clem Dye
writes I've just had Sky+ installed for £49. I was told it was a promotion for us in the Whitehaven area, no installation fee and no monthly £10 subscription. I'll be keeping a close eye on my bank statements. Can you record stuff to the HD? Yes, most evenings I record a programme to watch, if either it clashes with the one I'm already watching or it finishes too late. -- Clive. |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
"Alan Pemberton" wrote in message rve.co.uk.invalid... Brian McIlwrath wrote: In uk.tech.tv.sky Malcolm H wrote: : Will the proposed BBC/ITV Freesat EPG system allow ALL channels to be : recorded to a PVR? - and what about Channel 4 and Five?? Unclear! Freesat is charging channels for EPG inclusion (at rates lower than Sky but higher than many people expected!) so not all might pay. Even so, a Freesat[tm] box should allow recording of non-epg stations, as most (all?) other FTA recorders do, but Sky+ does not. All channels which are normally receivable with a Sky box are in the EPG, therefore this is not an issue. (I know that other channels can be added manually but this is cumbersome and generally unnecessary) |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:48:27 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath wrote: In uk.tech.digital-tv Michael Chare wrote: : : Sky "Search and Scan" functionality : What does that do? On any channel - and without changing to the EPG - any use of the arrow keys on the remote brings up an overlay which can be used to see what is coming up in the current channel (or any other) for about 8 hours ahead. Which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot when you are 500 digits (or a hundred arrow presses) away from the channel where you want to view the details. Sky's EPG is IMHO just horrible. Badly designed, badly executed and with a mind blowingly hopeless user interface. -- |
BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
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BBC/ITV Freesat website launched
In uk.tech.tv.sky Mike wrote:
: Sky's EPG is IMHO just horrible. Badly designed, badly executed and : with a mind blowingly hopeless user interface. Well I (and almost everyone else who comments on it!) are going to totally disagree! |
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