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Well I've been. Son had a brilliant idea, why not use the bracket and
pole the Sat dish was fixed to? So we did. Dead easy to fit aerial to
it, nice substantial bracket and pole.

Immaculate signal for DTT, all muxes at high signal strength and minimum
S/N. Got all available channels from Belmont, even though I'd pointed
it halfway between Waltham (138deg) and Belmont(89deg)as a first option,
with no drop outs of the ones we watched. Some very long interval
slight hiccups, probably due to old car ignition interference or
something in the pub switching.

Slight problem, the aerial was very visible from below and at night,
having a floodlight immediately below it, was well lit up. Not the
impression wanted of the place.

So next day I drilled the wall and fitted the cheapo crap Commtel
bracket and pole lower down and away from said floodlight.

The aerial was now behind the balcony railings which worried me, but
signal strength was just as good.

Commtel really do deserve the bad reputation of their product. Luckily
I had some proper wall plugs, the ones Commtel supply really are
rubbish. Drilling the wall with 10mm holes, as specified, resulted in
their wallplugs just spinning when trying to tighten up the bolts.And I
doubt the bracket will last the winter, it's so thin. I know I didn't
want to leave a decent aerial, but I doubt this one will last a couple
of years! My bodging isn't really rock bottom, so I found a piece of
rope to tie off the aerial to the sign metalwork as a safety measure.

Went round the outside of the place to take photos and discovered why
none of the three aerials worked. I'd gone off the publicity photo of
the place, which shows them properly fixed. The chimney fixing wires
had obviously given way. Two were pointing downwards at the roof, and
one was pointing 45 degrees to the road. Here's some piccies via the
naff photobucket "slideshow" :

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b140/RichardTaylor/

I've told my son if the brewery still object to the aerial where it is
to contact a proper aerial firm (i.e. Wright's Aerials) to come and put
up a decent aerial on the chimney in a proper fashion. I doubt they
will, it'll cost them money!

We very proud of our son, and his first Managership. The meals we had
in the pub were first rate. We understand the place was going downhill
a bit - he's already improved things. So I was glad to be able to get
him a decent TV signal, even if I did lower my standards a lot!

Richard

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oops, don't like photobucket! first try of it and I copied the wrong
link. The slideshow is :-
http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...t=fbfbe933.pbw

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Commtel really do deserve the bad reputation of their product.

Did you see Commtel's pathetic attempt to use this group as a
marketing vehicle?
27/11/07 1141


--
Graham

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Graham. wrote:
Commtel really do deserve the bad reputation of their product.

Did you see Commtel's pathetic attempt to use this group as a
marketing vehicle?
27/11/07 1141


Yes.

And I must stress that I didn't actually know the product I bought from
maplin was going to be a Commtel aerial! I would have taken it back if
I hadn't gone for cheapness, because my son will only be there for 2
years tops.

Any permanent installation should use a proper aerial not one of these
rubbish ones!

Richard

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"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Immaculate signal for DTT, all muxes at high signal strength and minimum
S/N. Got all available channels from Belmont, even though I'd pointed it
halfway between Waltham (138deg) and Belmont(89deg)as a first option, with
no drop outs of the ones we watched. Some very long interval slight
hiccups, probably due to old car ignition interference or something in the
pub switching.
The various old aerials on your pictures are all contract-type Group A ones,
so they were obviously on Belmont. The only problem with Belmont round here
when the field strength is OK is the CCI from Europe, which seems to happen
quite a lot.

I've told my son if the brewery still object to the aerial where it is to
contact a proper aerial firm (i.e. Wright's Aerials)
Cheers!

We very proud of our son, and his first Managership. The meals we had in
the pub were first rate. We understand the place was going downhill a
bit - he's already improved things.
Yes, I think we take at least as much pleasure in the achievements of one's
children as we do in one's own achievements. We are very lucky because we
have three kids who are all successful without being up their own arses.

No doubt if your lad turns that pub round he will be whisked away to another
problem one! Does he sell real ale by the way? If so I might take a small
party up there.

Bill

PS by 'small party' I mean my very favourite small party, Hil.

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Bill Wright wrote:

No doubt if your lad turns that pub round he will be whisked away to another
problem one! Does he sell real ale by the way? If so I might take a small
party up there.

Bill

PS by 'small party' I mean my very favourite small party, Hil.



Only the one, I'm told. At the moment. Next time we go up, without a
work order to complete, I'd be pleased to buy you a pint!

Richard

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"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:

No doubt if your lad turns that pub round he will be whisked away to
another problem one! Does he sell real ale by the way? If so I might take
a small party up there.

Bill

PS by 'small party' I mean my very favourite small party, Hil.

Only the one, I'm told.
What is it? Or is it a rotating guest? No quips from the rest of you.

At the moment. Next time we go up, without a
work order to complete, I'd be pleased to buy you a pint!
That sounds alright. OK if I bring the rest of the brass band?

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:

Only the one, I'm told.
What is it? Or is it a rotating guest? No quips from the rest of you.

I'll have to ask him, I'm not a beer man, my tipple is Cider!

At the moment. Next time we go up, without a
work order to complete, I'd be pleased to buy you a pint!
That sounds alright. OK if I bring the rest of the brass band?

Bill

Fine, but it's only you and Hil that get the pints!
I like Brass Bands, used to be in one!

Richard

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brightside S9 wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 04:02:54 -0000, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:

No doubt if your lad turns that pub round he will be whisked away to
another problem one! Does he sell real ale by the way? If so I might take
a small party up there.

Bill

PS by 'small party' I mean my very favourite small party, Hil.
Only the one, I'm told.
What is it? Or is it a rotating guest? No quips from the rest of you.

At the moment. Next time we go up, without a
work order to complete, I'd be pleased to buy you a pint!
That sounds alright. OK if I bring the rest of the brass band?


According to http://www.sheffieldpub.co.uk/pubs/dore/dore-moor-inn/
they sell real ales but no rotating guest ale.

It's one! Marsdens. But in the new year the pub is having a refurb.
Later in the spring/summer he's hoping to be able to organise a real ale
festival!

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In message , brightside S9
wrote


According to http://www.sheffieldpub.co.uk/pubs/dore/dore-moor-inn/
they sell real ales but no rotating guest ale.


Another web guide says
Then in 1998 something terrible happened to the Dore Moor Inn. It was
purchased by Vintage Inns :)

http://travel.ciao.co.uk/The_Dore_Moor_Inn_Sheffield__Review_5640475

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

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Alan wrote:
In message , brightside S9
wrote


According to http://www.sheffieldpub.co.uk/pubs/dore/dore-moor-inn/
they sell real ales but no rotating guest ale.


Another web guide says
Then in 1998 something terrible happened to the Dore Moor Inn. It was
purchased by Vintage Inns :)

http://travel.ciao.co.uk/The_Dore_Moor_Inn_Sheffield__Review_5640475

Mmm. Better than by Punch!

At least M & B, who own the Vintage Inns name, are Brewers running pubs.
Punch are asset strippers running investments!

In the case of the Dore Moor Inn some of those criticisms will be met
next year!

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:36:56 +0000, Dickie mint
wrote:

brightside S9 wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 04:02:54 -0000, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:

No doubt if your lad turns that pub round he will be whisked away to
another problem one! Does he sell real ale by the way? If so I might take
a small party up there.

Bill

PS by 'small party' I mean my very favourite small party, Hil.
Only the one, I'm told.
What is it? Or is it a rotating guest? No quips from the rest of you.

At the moment. Next time we go up, without a
work order to complete, I'd be pleased to buy you a pint!
That sounds alright. OK if I bring the rest of the brass band?


According to http://www.sheffieldpub.co.uk/pubs/dore/dore-moor-inn/
they sell real ales but no rotating guest ale.

It's one! Marsdens. But in the new year the pub is having a refurb.
Later in the spring/summer he's hoping to be able to organise a real ale
festival!

I should imagine that's Marston's 'Pedigree' which is ok if there's
nothing else. Has to be kept in tip top condition though :-)

Marky P.

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"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
It's one! Marsdens. But in the new year the pub is having a refurb.
Later in the spring/summer he's hoping to be able to organise a real ale
festival!

If he does let us know.

Bill

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"Marky P" wrote in message
...
I should imagine that's Marston's 'Pedigree' which is ok if there's
nothing else. Has to be kept in tip top condition though :-)

Last night in a Worcester pub I asked for two pints of Banks's, indicating
the handpump, and the girl went to the keg Pedigree dispenser. When I
mentioned it she seemed to think I was being picky.

Bill

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"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Alan wrote:
In message , brightside S9
wrote


According to http://www.sheffieldpub.co.uk/pubs/dore/dore-moor-inn/
they sell real ales but no rotating guest ale.


Another web guide says
Then in 1998 something terrible happened to the Dore Moor Inn. It was
purchased by Vintage Inns :)

http://travel.ciao.co.uk/The_Dore_Moor_Inn_Sheffield__Review_5640475

Mmm. Better than by Punch!

At least M & B, who own the Vintage Inns name, are Brewers running pubs.
Punch are asset strippers running investments!



That is not actually true.
M & B are a pub group just like Punch. They no longer own any
breweries, they got sold off and they became just a retailer.
Their old brewing operations are now owned by Coors of
the US who I work for.

Cheers
Brian

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"brian wood" wrote in message
...
That is not actually true.
M & B are a pub group just like Punch. They no longer own any
breweries, they got sold off and they became just a retailer.
Their old brewing operations are now owned by Coors of
the US who I work for.

Cheers
Brian

That made you de-lurk didn't it?

Bill

Sheffield DTT Reception - part 2
 

brian wood wrote:

Mmm. Better than by Punch!

At least M & B, who own the Vintage Inns name, are Brewers running
pubs. Punch are asset strippers running investments!



That is not actually true.
M & B are a pub group just like Punch. They no longer own any
breweries, they got sold off and they became just a retailer.
Their old brewing operations are now owned by Coors of
the US who I work for.

Cheers
Brian

I was going by my son's experiences. He was employed by S & N who got
taken over by Spirit, who got taken over by Punch.

Spirit sold off pubs to get their investment back.

Punch turned the brand he worked in (Millers) into "pile em high, sell
them cheap" 2 for a tenner. Neither Spirit nor Punch care much for
their employees or customers. Punch are far worse, they've already sold
off going concerns to realise the building plot potential.

Richard

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In article ,
Dickie mint wrote:
brian wood wrote:

Mmm. Better than by Punch!

At least M & B, who own the Vintage Inns name, are Brewers running
pubs. Punch are asset strippers running investments!



That is not actually true.
M & B are a pub group just like Punch. They no longer own any
breweries, they got sold off and they became just a retailer.
Their old brewing operations are now owned by Coors of
the US who I work for.

Cheers
Brian

I was going by my son's experiences. He was employed by S & N who got
taken over by Spirit,

even that's not quite right. some (all?) of S&N's pub business was sold
off; S&N still exist although they don't brew in either Scotland or
Newcastle ;-(

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

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charles wrote:

even that's not quite right. some (all?) of S&N's pub business was sold
off; S&N still exist although they don't brew in either Scotland or
Newcastle ;-(


Yes, sorry Charles!

Poor English. I'd meant the brand (Miller's Kitchen) he worked for.

Sheffield DTT Reception - part 2
 

In article ,
Dickie mint wrote:
charles wrote:

even that's not quite right. some (all?) of S&N's pub business was sold
off; S&N still exist although they don't brew in either Scotland or
Newcastle ;-(


Yes, sorry Charles!

Poor English. I'd meant the brand (Miller's Kitchen) he worked for.

they also flogged of "Chef & Brewer", AFAIR

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

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In article ,
wrote:
On 5 Dec,
charles wrote:

even that's not quite right. some (all?) of S&N's pub business was sold
off; S&N still exist although they don't brew in either Scotland or
Newcastle ;-(
What bacame newcastle breweries started offin Gateshead, and (the last I
heard) were brewing again in Gateshead (following the closure of the Tyne
Brewery) At the former chemical plant of Federation Brewery (never the
same after moving to the 'chemical plant'!)

but an anyone from Gateshead will tell "It's NOT Newcastle".

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

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charles wrote:
In article ,
Dickie mint wrote:
charles wrote:

even that's not quite right. some (all?) of S&N's pub business was sold
off; S&N still exist although they don't brew in either Scotland or
Newcastle ;-(


Yes, sorry Charles!

Poor English. I'd meant the brand (Miller's Kitchen) he worked for.

they also flogged of "Chef & Brewer", AFAIR

Yes, along with other brands.

I spose a look on the Spirit website would show the full extent.

Richard

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"brian wood" wrote in message
...
That is not actually true.
M & B are a pub group just like Punch. They no longer own any
breweries, they got sold off and they became just a retailer.
Their old brewing operations are now owned by Coors of
the US who I work for.

Cheers
Brian

That made you de-lurk didn't it?

Bill

Lurking is what I do best!

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In message , Bill Wright
writes
M & B are a pub group just like Punch.
I remember the old M&B adverts with Beryl Reed saying, "M&B,it's
marvellous beer".
--
Clive.

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"Clive." wrote in message
...
In message , Bill Wright
writes
M & B are a pub group just like Punch.
I remember the old M&B adverts with Beryl Reed saying, "M&B,it's
marvellous beer".
--
Clive.

Ha - ageism strikes again.

Used to be known as Mild and Bitter in Brum as they always said you
couldn't drink either alone!

VERY good mild though.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com