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Pat[_2_] November 28th 07 09:50 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 
I want to buy a good HDMI cable to connect my xbox to my new HDTV
(1080p). I was looking at the cables available from eBuyHD.com and
Monoprice, but am a bit confused by the all the options. For example, I
can get a HDMI cables that is:

* 1.3a Category 2 certified, or
* CL2 rated, or
* 1.3a with ferrite cores.

Then among those, there's the choice of 24, 26, or 28AWG wire, silver or
gold plating, etc.

I want a good quality cable, but just don't want to pay the ridiculous
prices Monster charges for theirs. Any advice on which type I should get?

Thanks, -Pat

the dog from that film you saw[_2_] November 28th 07 11:12 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 

"Pat" wrote in message
m...
I want to buy a good HDMI cable to connect my xbox to my new HDTV
(1080p). I was looking at the cables available from eBuyHD.com and
Monoprice, but am a bit confused by the all the options. For example, I
can get a HDMI cables that is:

* 1.3a Category 2 certified, or
* CL2 rated, or
* 1.3a with ferrite cores.

Then among those, there's the choice of 24, 26, or 28AWG wire, silver or
gold plating, etc.

I want a good quality cable, but just don't want to pay the ridiculous
prices Monster charges for theirs. Any advice on which type I should get?

Thanks, -Pat




buy the cheapest - hdmi cables either work or they dont.
a more expensive cable won't give you a better picture - it's a digital
signal.
an expensive recordable cd wouldnt make your word documents look any better
than a different cd-r after all......



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



WGD[_2_] November 28th 07 11:34 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 
ditto


"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

"Pat" wrote in message
m...
I want to buy a good HDMI cable to connect my xbox to my new HDTV
(1080p). I was looking at the cables available from eBuyHD.com and
Monoprice, but am a bit confused by the all the options. For example, I
can get a HDMI cables that is:

* 1.3a Category 2 certified, or
* CL2 rated, or
* 1.3a with ferrite cores.

Then among those, there's the choice of 24, 26, or 28AWG wire, silver or
gold plating, etc.

I want a good quality cable, but just don't want to pay the ridiculous
prices Monster charges for theirs. Any advice on which type I should
get?

Thanks, -Pat




buy the cheapest - hdmi cables either work or they dont.
a more expensive cable won't give you a better picture - it's a digital
signal.
an expensive recordable cd wouldnt make your word documents look any
better than a different cd-r after all......



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/




Pat[_2_] November 29th 07 04:06 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
By buying the cheapest cable, is there more of a risk that it won't work?


WGD wrote:
ditto


"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...
"Pat" wrote in message
m...
I want to buy a good HDMI cable to connect my xbox to my new HDTV
(1080p). I was looking at the cables available from eBuyHD.com and
Monoprice, but am a bit confused by the all the options. For example, I
can get a HDMI cables that is:

* 1.3a Category 2 certified, or
* CL2 rated, or
* 1.3a with ferrite cores.

Then among those, there's the choice of 24, 26, or 28AWG wire, silver or
gold plating, etc.

I want a good quality cable, but just don't want to pay the ridiculous
prices Monster charges for theirs. Any advice on which type I should
get?

Thanks, -Pat



buy the cheapest - hdmi cables either work or they dont.
a more expensive cable won't give you a better picture - it's a digital
signal.
an expensive recordable cd wouldnt make your word documents look any
better than a different cd-r after all......



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/




Matthew L. Martin November 29th 07 04:08 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
Pat wrote:
By buying the cheapest cable, is there more of a risk that it won't work?


You know, I don't think I've read a single post from anyone saying that
any HDMI cable that wasn't physically broken didn't actually work.
Failures of serial digital transmission systems are *never* subtle.

Matthew

--
"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of
people". Alexander Bullock ("My Man Godfrey" 1936):

Mark A[_2_] November 29th 07 04:10 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
"Pat" wrote in message
m...
By buying the cheapest cable, is there more of a risk that it won't work?


Slightly greater risk, especially if it is mishandled. I would avoid the
28AWG versions. Even the "high quality" ones at ehdmi.com only cost about
$15 in a 6 foot length.



Gordon[_2_] November 29th 07 05:09 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
I purchased my cable from BigLots
and it works flawlessly linking my Oppo
DVD deck to a Panasonic LCD TV.
The price? 12 bucks and picture and
sound are outstanding!
But, my BL's sell them out as quick as
they come in!
Hope this helps.


Alan November 29th 07 07:26 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
In article "Mark A" writes:
"Pat" wrote in message
om...
By buying the cheapest cable, is there more of a risk that it won't work?


Slightly greater risk, especially if it is mishandled. I would avoid the
28AWG versions. Even the "high quality" ones at ehdmi.com only cost about
$15 in a 6 foot length.



On the other hand, I would probably pick the lighter, less stiff, versions,
including the 28 AWG ones.

I would rather the cable bend itself, than run the risk of it twisting in the
connectors on my equipment and damaging them.

Alan

the dog from that film you saw[_2_] November 29th 07 08:39 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 

"Pat" wrote in message
m...
By buying the cheapest cable, is there more of a risk that it won't work?




perhaps - but if you bought a cable that didnt work you'd get a refund
surely?
when a cable doesnt work, you wont find your picture becoming a little
fuzzier or the sound a little less clear - you'll have nasty, impossible to
ignore massive picture breakup.
and then you would return it to the store.


--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



Mark A[_2_] November 29th 07 09:55 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
"Gordon" wrote in message
...
I purchased my cable from BigLots
and it works flawlessly linking my Oppo
DVD deck to a Panasonic LCD TV.
The price? 12 bucks and picture and
sound are outstanding!
But, my BL's sell them out as quick as
they come in!
Hope this helps.


At ehdmi.com the low quality cable is about $7 and the high quality is about
$15. So I don't know if your comments help.



Pat[_2_] November 29th 07 02:30 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 
Thanks again for all the replies.

I'm guessing the main differences (that matter) between these cables are
primarily mechanical, where the the better ones have stronger connectors
and better tolerances so they don't fit too tight or (worse) too loose.
To me, that would be worth paying a little more for. I really hate
loose cables.

These cables are all cheap enough though ($20) that I'll probably just
pay a little more for one of the "better" ones - mainly for the peace of
mind. I'm not going to worry about $5 or $10; $50 or $100 is another
matter!

Speaking of $50 or $100, it really does make me wonder how Monster can
get away with charging what they do. The one the sales guy a hhgreg
showed me was $170! Which is the accessory, the TV or the cable? It
seems almost unethical, given how cheaply they can be had. Consumer
Reports should really do an article on this to get the word out.

Pat



HD Matt November 29th 07 03:56 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 
In article , Pat
wrote:

Thanks again for all the replies.

I'm guessing the main differences (that matter) between these cables are
primarily mechanical, where the the better ones have stronger connectors
and better tolerances so they don't fit too tight or (worse) too loose.
To me, that would be worth paying a little more for. I really hate
loose cables.

These cables are all cheap enough though ($20) that I'll probably just
pay a little more for one of the "better" ones - mainly for the peace of
mind. I'm not going to worry about $5 or $10; $50 or $100 is another
matter!

Speaking of $50 or $100, it really does make me wonder how Monster can
get away with charging what they do. The one the sales guy a hhgreg
showed me was $170! Which is the accessory, the TV or the cable? It
seems almost unethical, given how cheaply they can be had. Consumer
Reports should really do an article on this to get the word out.

Pat


Can you spell "ripoff".

Barnum said it best "There's a sucker born every minute."

--
Matt
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"Where did you say we are going again, Dear?"

Mark A[_2_] November 29th 07 04:44 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 
"Pat" wrote in message
...
Thanks again for all the replies.

I'm guessing the main differences (that matter) between these cables are
primarily mechanical, where the the better ones have stronger connectors
and better tolerances so they don't fit too tight or (worse) too loose.
To me, that would be worth paying a little more for. I really hate
loose cables.

These cables are all cheap enough though ($20) that I'll probably just
pay a little more for one of the "better" ones - mainly for the peace of
mind. I'm not going to worry about $5 or $10; $50 or $100 is another
matter!

Speaking of $50 or $100, it really does make me wonder how Monster can
get away with charging what they do. The one the sales guy a hhgreg
showed me was $170! Which is the accessory, the TV or the cable? It
seems almost unethical, given how cheaply they can be had. Consumer
Reports should really do an article on this to get the word out.

Pat


Monster Cable's first product many years ago was very thick (low gauge
number) speaker wire, which is much less subject to interference than line
level cables. There are still many "audiophiles" who insist that a $5,000
pair of speaker wires (yes these do exist) are better than a $100 pair of
speaker wires (still pretty expensive by most people's standards). It's a
whole different world.



the dog from that film you saw[_2_] November 29th 07 06:10 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 

"Mark A" wrote in message
...

Monster Cable's first product many years ago was very thick (low gauge
number) speaker wire, which is much less subject to interference than line
level cables. There are still many "audiophiles" who insist that a $5,000
pair of speaker wires (yes these do exist) are better than a $100 pair of
speaker wires (still pretty expensive by most people's standards). It's a
whole different world.



in the analogue world they have space to argue - even if i happen to think
they are wrong.
when it comes to digital signals though, they can't get away with claiming
improved picture and sound - not that it stops them lying....

i recall a website claiming their cd cleaning liquid could be used on dvds
too to reveal 'previously unseen levels of detail' - crazy!

the same site sold some pebbles which you placed in the same room as your
hifi system to do the same for the quality of your music (!!)



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



-rick- December 1st 07 09:13 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i recall a website claiming their cd cleaning liquid could be used on dvds
too to reveal 'previously unseen levels of detail' - crazy!

the same site sold some pebbles which you placed in the same room as your
hifi system to do the same for the quality of your music (!!)




http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74285

www.locoworks.com December 1st 07 06:22 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 
On Dec 1, 12:13�am, -rick- wrote:
the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i recall a website claiming their cd cleaning liquid could be used on dvds
too to reveal 'previously unseen levels of detail' - crazy!


the same site sold some pebbles which you placed in the same room as your
hifi system to do the same for the quality of your music (!!)


http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74285


Only $1,250 per meter! A steal.

Mark A[_2_] December 1st 07 10:14 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 
"www.locoworks.com" wrote in message
news:db6c3e0e-b05d-4db3-91f4-
Only $1,250 per meter! A steal.


As a matter of fact, $1,250.00 per meter is a steal.

Take a look these cables from Tara Labs:

The Zero Interconnect: $12,800.00 / one meter, $1,800.00 for each additional
meter.
Omega Speaker Cable $11,995 / 10 foot pair, $1,000.00 for each additional
foot.
The Zero Digital Cable (RG-6) $5,995.00 / one meter, $1,200.00 for each
additional meter.
http://www.taralabs.com/images/27739_eprint.pdf

I am quite sure that I could find even more expensive cables, but I am too
lazy.

Those who scoff at buying HDMI AWG24 cables for $15.00 at www.ehdmi.com
instead of the AWG28 for about $7.00 should be ashamed.



the dog from that film you saw[_2_] December 1st 07 11:19 PM

Which HDMI cable?
 

"www.locoworks.com" wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 12:13?am, -rick- wrote:
the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i recall a website claiming their cd cleaning liquid could be used on
dvds
too to reveal 'previously unseen levels of detail' - crazy!


the same site sold some pebbles which you placed in the same room as
your
hifi system to do the same for the quality of your music (!!)


http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74285


Only $1,250 per meter! A steal.



but then you will have to replace the wiring between your power station and
your wall socket with the same stuff - or you're just wasting your time.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



Tantalust December 4th 07 04:58 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
"www.locoworks.com" wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 12:13?am, -rick- wrote:
the dog from that film you saw wrote:

i recall a website claiming their cd cleaning liquid could be used on
dvds
too to reveal 'previously unseen levels of detail' - crazy!


the same site sold some pebbles which you placed in the same room as
your
hifi system to do the same for the quality of your music (!!)


http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74285


Only $1,250 per meter! A steal.


I wonder how much Robert Harley takes in from those companies for writing
those fricking lies.



Mark A[_2_] December 4th 07 07:38 AM

Which HDMI cable?
 
"Tantalust" wrote in message
m...
I wonder how much Robert Harley takes in from those companies for writing
those fricking lies.


What makes you think he is lying? He is a "true believer". Just like the
many people who believe there was a second gunman who killed Kennedy, or who
believe aliens landed at Roswell, or any of the other things people believe.

Harley and all the other reviewers in high-end audio magazines do not take
any money from the companies they write about, except for getting free
samples to use for awhile. I am sure some of them advertise in the
magazines. He pretty much says the same thing for all the high-end cables he
auditions. He says those things because there are many readers who pay for
subscriptions who want to read his opinions on the merits of very expensive
cables.

Unless you have evidence he is lying (that he knows what he says to be
false) and you know that he accepts money from the vendors for saying these
things (other than advertising dollars, which is transparent since you can
see the ads), then you are also a "true believer."




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