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Looking for someone to help compare three different HDTV projection models
So, here are the three I'm looking at:
Mitsubitshi 55" WS-55313 $2000 Panasonic 53" PT-53WX53 $1700 Sony 57" KP57WS510 $2100 The feature list is confusing (e.g. the Panasonic and Sony models claim "progressive scanning" and doubling? 3:2 pulldown, etc...). If you're in the know and don't mind taking the time to help someone out I'm curious as to witch of these three you think is the best deal and why? I'll mostly be watching DVD movies on it, digital cable (with HD tuner) or DirectTV broascast whenever possible. I have a 6.1 stereo reciever, speakers, etc... Thanks |
You should be able to (in most areas) get each model for at least $200 and
maybe $300 less than what you've listed. "JDeats" wrote in message om... So, here are the three I'm looking at: Mitsubitshi 55" WS-55313 $2000 Panasonic 53" PT-53WX53 $1700 Sony 57" KP57WS510 $2100 The feature list is confusing (e.g. the Panasonic and Sony models claim "progressive scanning" and doubling? 3:2 pulldown, etc...). If you're in the know and don't mind taking the time to help someone out I'm curious as to witch of these three you think is the best deal and why? I'll mostly be watching DVD movies on it, digital cable (with HD tuner) or DirectTV broascast whenever possible. I have a 6.1 stereo reciever, speakers, etc... Thanks |
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"JDeats" wrote in message om... So, here are the three I'm looking at: Mitsubitshi 55" WS-55313 $2000 Panasonic 53" PT-53WX53 $1700 Sony 57" KP57WS510 $2100 The Panasonic is easy to scratch from this list. The pix is soft, the peak whites lack focus, and the blacks are weak by comparison with the others. You might want to also look at the Hitachi 57S500. We sell the Sony and Mitsubishi and I service both as well as the Hitachis, though we don't sell them. My choice would be between the Mitsubishi and the Hitachi in the current models. I have seen significant improvements in both in the most recent sets, while the Sony looks essentially the same as it has for the past couple of years. Consider also which one you can get the best service on. If you can, choose a dealer who has his own service department with technicians experienced enough to tweak the set for you before delivery and service it when it needs it. Don't count on any of them looking their best out of the box, though you can get lucky. Leonard Caillouet |
Really, well first I'll say that has not been my experience. The Sony
and Pansonic are tied actually, and yes they both look better than anything else on the showroom floor, but I've learned to take that with a grain of salt. A friend of mine works at the local Frys and he has heard that they turn on something called "vidid" on the models they want to sell the most of (ie the ones they have the most of in the warehourse), turns out the Sony's are the hottest brand at his story so they always put "vivid" on which makes it brighter and crisper (not sure why they don't do this to all the other models), anyway that was how he explained the Sony and the Panasonic (also a hot seller) looking better in the showroom. He also heard that Mitsubishi and Hitachi brands appealed to a different kind of customer (whatever that means, anyone want to take a shot). Unfortunately this friend doesn't know much about these TVs, he just overhead this dicussion and brought it up, anyway it left me more confused than anything else. Mark wrote in message th.net... In article , says... So, here are the three I'm looking at: Mitsubitshi 55" WS-55313 $2000 Panasonic 53" PT-53WX53 $1700 Sony 57" KP57WS510 $2100 If you can, go somewhere that has all three running. I did, the Sony picture quality and view angle beat the others hands-down. There's a Sony in my living room. |
I have to agree with Leonard about the Hitachi, it's become my favorite set,
both to sell and to think about buying for myself. If I had my choice, I'd get the 57S700 for all its bells and whistles, but I don't really want to spend that much money. The S500 is a fantastic TV, with the sharpest focus and best analog picture I've seen, and its stretch modes are better than any TV except for maybe Toshiba. I did a side by side comparison of the Hitachi and the Mitsubishi 55313 using CNN Headline News as an analog sample, and I couldn't believe how much sharper the Hitachi was, especially on the text on the news crawl at the bottom of the screen. Hitachi's new line doubler, which they call VirtualHD 1080p, does an outstanding job of improving the analog picture. As a side note, always, always look at these TV's on an analog signal so you can see the worst possible picture that you might be watching at home. Doug -- "Maybe it's not over. It's not over until the fat lady sings, and we don't allow fat ladies on the premises." Hugh Hefner "Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message news:[email protected] "JDeats" wrote in message om... So, here are the three I'm looking at: Mitsubitshi 55" WS-55313 $2000 Panasonic 53" PT-53WX53 $1700 Sony 57" KP57WS510 $2100 The Panasonic is easy to scratch from this list. The pix is soft, the peak whites lack focus, and the blacks are weak by comparison with the others. You might want to also look at the Hitachi 57S500. We sell the Sony and Mitsubishi and I service both as well as the Hitachis, though we don't sell them. My choice would be between the Mitsubishi and the Hitachi in the current models. I have seen significant improvements in both in the most recent sets, while the Sony looks essentially the same as it has for the past couple of years. Consider also which one you can get the best service on. If you can, choose a dealer who has his own service department with technicians experienced enough to tweak the set for you before delivery and service it when it needs it. Don't count on any of them looking their best out of the box, though you can get lucky. Leonard Caillouet |
So I went to a local CompUSA (they have a home theater department now)
and they had the Hitachi 57F500 and the 51S500 (the later I assume is the 51" version of the set you mention), I can see a big difference in HD broadcast between this set and the Philps and Panasonic models. For HD broadcast I noticed the Panasonic's colors looked very different (sales guy claimed they were all calibrated professionally), everything was too light. Things changed when he put a in a DVD at this point the Panasonic looked fantastic, the Hitachi and Mitsubishi's didn't as good with the DVD feed. Thought it might be because the signal was being split so many times, but the sales guy showed me that the feed was actually starting with the Mitsubishi and was three sets closer to the Hitachi than the Panasonic. So I got home and read some reviews (including what you guys had to say), from what I've read the Panasonic and Sony models have extra features that make them really shine with progressive scan 480p input "Doug" wrote in message news:[email protected] I have to agree with Leonard about the Hitachi, it's become my favorite set, both to sell and to think about buying for myself. If I had my choice, I'd get the 57S700 for all its bells and whistles, but I don't really want to spend that much money. The S500 is a fantastic TV, with the sharpest focus and best analog picture I've seen, and its stretch modes are better than any TV except for maybe Toshiba. I did a side by side comparison of the Hitachi and the Mitsubishi 55313 using CNN Headline News as an analog sample, and I couldn't believe how much sharper the Hitachi was, especially on the text on the news crawl at the bottom of the screen. Hitachi's new line doubler, which they call VirtualHD 1080p, does an outstanding job of improving the analog picture. As a side note, always, always look at these TV's on an analog signal so you can see the worst possible picture that you might be watching at home. Doug -- "Maybe it's not over. It's not over until the fat lady sings, and we don't allow fat ladies on the premises." Hugh Hefner "Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message news:[email protected] "JDeats" wrote in message om... So, here are the three I'm looking at: Mitsubitshi 55" WS-55313 $2000 Panasonic 53" PT-53WX53 $1700 Sony 57" KP57WS510 $2100 The Panasonic is easy to scratch from this list. The pix is soft, the peak whites lack focus, and the blacks are weak by comparison with the others. You might want to also look at the Hitachi 57S500. We sell the Sony and Mitsubishi and I service both as well as the Hitachis, though we don't sell them. My choice would be between the Mitsubishi and the Hitachi in the current models. I have seen significant improvements in both in the most recent sets, while the Sony looks essentially the same as it has for the past couple of years. Consider also which one you can get the best service on. If you can, choose a dealer who has his own service department with technicians experienced enough to tweak the set for you before delivery and service it when it needs it. Don't count on any of them looking their best out of the box, though you can get lucky. Leonard Caillouet |
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Except the Hitachi 57S500 has problems with progressive scan input
from a DVD player. A friend of mine has this model, beautiful HD picture, but he went through two different progressive scan DVD players before he gave up and decided to just turn off progressive scan mode. This seems to be a known issue with this model: http://att.com.com/Hitachi_57S500/45...-30521418.html Considering how little he might be actually watching HDTV broascast this is a signifigant flaw in my book. "Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message news:[email protected] The Panasonic is easy to scratch from this list. The pix is soft, the peak whites lack focus, and the blacks are weak by comparison with the others. You might want to also look at the Hitachi 57S500. We sell the Sony and Mitsubishi and I service both as well as the Hitachis, though we don't sell them. My choice would be between the Mitsubishi and the Hitachi in the current models. I have seen significant improvements in both in the most recent sets, while the Sony looks essentially the same as it has for the past couple of years. Consider also which one you can get the best service on. If you can, choose a dealer who has his own service department with technicians experienced enough to tweak the set for you before delivery and service it when it needs it. Don't count on any of them looking their best out of the box, though you can get lucky. Leonard Caillouet |
I hate to add to the complexity of your decision making, but add a
comparable Hitachi model to your list. My research showed that Hitachi's technology is more mature than most other manufacturers of RPTV's, because they have been doing it longer, and the quality of their systems is unbeatable. When I went to one of my town's most reputable dealers, they had Sony's and Hitachi's on display. Why? Because they are the most trouble free, and for a little retailer in a world of big box stores, this allowed them to compete. JK "JDeats" wrote in message om... So, here are the three I'm looking at: Mitsubitshi 55" WS-55313 $2000 Panasonic 53" PT-53WX53 $1700 Sony 57" KP57WS510 $2100 The feature list is confusing (e.g. the Panasonic and Sony models claim "progressive scanning" and doubling? 3:2 pulldown, etc...). If you're in the know and don't mind taking the time to help someone out I'm curious as to witch of these three you think is the best deal and why? I'll mostly be watching DVD movies on it, digital cable (with HD tuner) or DirectTV broascast whenever possible. I have a 6.1 stereo reciever, speakers, etc... Thanks |
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