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maybe I'll tell the tale.

Bill

.... well... we're waiting... :-)

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Bill Wright wrote:
"Simon" wrote in message
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Name the venue. If you can't you are a liar.

I don't see why I should respond to this. What's more I can't see the reason
for it. What point are you attempting to make? Is it so extraordinary to
visit a rough estate pub in a Sheffield suburb and find that they have
engaged the services of a bad comedian?

For anyone who wants to avoid this pub, please email me and I'll send you
the details.

Bill


Was it part of a chain, or an indie?

I'm interested because my son's just taken over a pub in SW Sheffield,
and if oyur one is part of the same chain his area manager will be very
interested!

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Chas Gill" wrote in message
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There was one heckler at the start, who objected to the (totally
unfunny) racism. The heckler walked out. Maybe we should have done the
same, but I was a sort of invited guest of the people I was with and it
would have spoilt their evening.

Bill

But did anybody laugh? Nothing gets a "comedian" off stage quicker than
an audience that looks the other way. If enough of the audience joined
him in his puerile attempt at being funny then there would have been no
stopping him. Unfortunately (I assume) there were enough
similarly-inclined bigots in the crowd to feed him. A mass walk-out is
the only cure, I'm afraid. Not only does it send a strong message to the
performer but also to the dozy landlord that booked him - hitting him
where it hurts the most - in his pocket. Doubt he'd do it again.......

Well, you know, it was rather odd, and I think it said something about the
British working class's confusion about PC and racism. They did laugh, to
some extent, actually much more than the jokes deserved. I think it was
because racism has been proscribed by the ruling and chattering classes,
so there was an element of naughtiness about it. It was really rather like
schoolkids laughing at bad jokes about sex, because it was naughty. There
was an air of shared naughtiness. I think a lot of people have dual
morality here, like the arms dealer in Pygmalian who kept his two
moralities in watertight compartments. The live and work with Asians and
negros and get on with them, but they will go to a pub and laugh at poor
racist comedy material.

The comedian was even more offensive about things other than race. He was
appalling about disability and mental health. The odd thing, though, is
that the material he used there was broadcastable, despite being grossly
offensive. As a result it wasn't as well received as the racist material.
That says something about the ruling/chattering classes extreme
sensitivity to race issues as against other discrimination issues, and
possibily about how counter-productive it is.

Bill

There is an element of society that feels that they need to laugh at this
sort of humour - even if they aren't really racist - because it still seems
necessary to do so to keep face with the peer group. In all probability
most of the peer group would rather not condone the humour, but who is going
to be first to reject it? I actually walked out on a bunch of mates the
other night when the racist jokes got too much, being accused at the time of
being a miserable old git. However, since then they at least recognise that
I don't like them and apologise up front before they roll them out. One
small step....................


Chas

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"Graham." wrote in message
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Like a fool
Bill

Yet another off topic post that is probably an invented story for more
attention.
The pub/club would have told him to stop it, people would have left if
they
were offended. Those who might have chosen to stay must be idiots - if
any
of that even happened. Going by other posts I don't think I can believe
a
word you come out with now!


And who the **** are you?


I think that Marky expressed it very eloquently. I would have walked out,
as noisily as possible.


Because of the racism...
...or the lack of real ale?

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Simon,

You challenged Bill - now I'm challenging you.

Bill has asked anyone to email him and he will provide the details of the
evening.

Do this, verify the veracity (go look it up) of Bill's post and then post an
apology to Bill and this group.

If you don't, we'll know for sure, that you're a bigger ****** than can
possibly be conveyed by your charmless, bone-headed posts.

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"mikes" wrote in message
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You challenged Bill - now I'm challenging you.

Bill has asked anyone to email him and he will provide the details of the
evening.

Do this, verify the veracity (go look it up) of Bill's post and then post
an apology to Bill and this group.

If you don't, we'll know for sure, that you're a bigger ****** than can
possibly be conveyed by your charmless, bone-headed posts.




the guy obviously has a strange imagination if he thinks people post
imaginary accounts of going to the pub - who exactly would be impressed by
such a fantasy? - other than 17 year olds who the landlord won't let in.....



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