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Hi all. I've looked around and found several people who recommend the
Philips MNT902W outdoor antenna for picking up HD (and SD) over the air signals. Anyone on here used it and want to comment? I'm also interested in how big the thing is ASSEMBLED. I found lots of helpful info about how big the box it comes in is, but nothing on how big it is put together. I ask because rumor has it you can mount them in the attic and they will still work very well. I happen to have a tiny attic. Anyone have experience mounting antennas in attics? Is the reception drastically reduced? Final question, if I install this outside or in the attic, do I need to somehow ground/protect it from lightning? If yes, how exactly does one go about it? Thanks all! -Will |
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On Oct 30, 2:31 pm, wrote:
wrote: Hi all. I've looked around and found several people who recommend the Philips MNT902W outdoor antenna for picking up HD (and SD) over the air signals. Anyone on here used it and want to comment? I'm also interested in how big the thing is ASSEMBLED. I found lots of helpful info about how big the box it comes in is, but nothing on how big it is put together. I ask because rumor has it you can mount them in the attic and they will still work very well. I happen to have a tiny attic. Anyone have experience mounting antennas in attics? Is the reception drastically reduced? Final question, if I install this outside or in the attic, do I need to somehow ground/protect it from lightning? If yes, how exactly does one go about it? Thanks all! -Will You may be able to fit it in your attic, but it will give better results on the roof. Depending on the stations in your area, you might be better off with the Channel Master 4228. It is designed as a UHF antenna, but picks up the high VHF channels quite well. Check this website to see what size you need:www.antennaweb.org Chip -- --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/-------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB I am just about to dump or reduce my dishnetwork. My local OTA HD is great! I bought a $12 HD (rabbit ear) antenna from RatShack and a $79 ATSC tuner box from newegg. Togther with my older 27" analog tv in the bedroom it picks up "ALL" local (TUCSON AZ) digital stations. Whoo Hoo! ! ! Plus I do have my old roof antenna that I feed into my living room Wide LCD with builtin ATSC digital tuner. These work really well. You do not neccessarily have to have a "digital" antenna, unless you have a bad signal situation. I am expecting delivery of a Phillips DVD burner with 160g HDD with ATSC tuner for PVR functions of OTA any day now. My 2¢ -YB- |
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On Oct 30, 8:45 pm, Yellowbeard wrote:
I am just about to dump or reduce my dishnetwork. My local OTA HD is great! I bought a $12 HD (rabbit ear) antenna from RatShack and a $79 ATSC tuner box from newegg. Togther with my older 27" analog tv in the bedroom it picks up "ALL" local (TUCSON AZ) digital stations. Whoo Hoo! ! ! Plus I do have my old roof antenna that I feed into my living room Wide LCD with builtin ATSC digital tuner. These work really well. You do not neccessarily have to have a "digital" antenna, unless you have a bad signal situation. I am expecting delivery of a Phillips DVD burner with 160g HDD with ATSC tuner for PVR functions of OTA any day now. My 2¢ -YB- You'll like it but don't be surprised if you want a bigger disk drive down the road. I've started recording lots of shows for later in the season when the reruns start - not here. So far after 5 weeks I have 370 gigs 'in the can' on a 500 gig drive with another 500 gig drive waiting to be opened and also a 320 gig and if I need another 500 gigs, well, that's another $120 GG |
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:12:40 +0000, larkmore wrote:
Hi all. I've looked around and found several people who recommend the Philips MNT902W outdoor antenna for picking up HD (and SD) over the air signals. Anyone on here used it and want to comment? You can find reviews all over the web. Here's one. five good years until it fell apart Reviewer: 5goodyrs from west texas on Mon Mar 26 09:52:56 EDT 2007 It works great until the elements start falling off in the wind. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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Yellowbeard wrote:
On Oct 30, 2:31 pm, wrote: wrote: Hi all. I've looked around and found several people who recommend the Philips MNT902W outdoor antenna for picking up HD (and SD) over the air signals. Anyone on here used it and want to comment? I'm also interested in how big the thing is ASSEMBLED. I found lots of helpful info about how big the box it comes in is, but nothing on how big it is put together. I ask because rumor has it you can mount them in the attic and they will still work very well. I happen to have a tiny attic. Anyone have experience mounting antennas in attics? Is the reception drastically reduced? Final question, if I install this outside or in the attic, do I need to somehow ground/protect it from lightning? If yes, how exactly does one go about it? Thanks all! -Will You may be able to fit it in your attic, but it will give better results on the roof. Depending on the stations in your area, you might be better off with the Channel Master 4228. It is designed as a UHF antenna, but picks up the high VHF channels quite well. Check this website to see what size you need:www.antennaweb.org Chip -- --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/-------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB I am just about to dump or reduce my dishnetwork. My local OTA HD is great! I bought a $12 HD (rabbit ear) antenna from RatShack and a $79 ATSC tuner box from newegg. Togther with my older 27" analog tv in the bedroom it picks up "ALL" local (TUCSON AZ) digital stations. Whoo Hoo! ! ! Plus I do have my old roof antenna that I feed into my living room Wide LCD with builtin ATSC digital tuner. These work really well. You do not neccessarily have to have a "digital" antenna, unless you have a bad signal situation. I am expecting delivery of a Phillips DVD burner with 160g HDD with ATSC tuner for PVR functions of OTA any day now. My 2¢ -YB- There is no such thing as a "digital" antenna! |
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Wes Newell wrote in news:zOUVi.9774$aJ3.8925
@trnddc02: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:12:40 +0000, larkmore wrote: Hi all. I've looked around and found several people who recommend the Philips MNT902W outdoor antenna for picking up HD (and SD) over the air signals. Anyone on here used it and want to comment? You can find reviews all over the web. Here's one. five good years until it fell apart Reviewer: 5goodyrs from west texas on Mon Mar 26 09:52:56 EDT 2007 It works great until the elements start falling off in the wind. I used to live on Sable Island (90 miles off the Nova Scotia coast in the North Atlantic. We used to budget for about three TV antennas annually because, sooner or later the weather would strip them to a bare boom! -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 |
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Thanks for the info all.
Any additional comments on the grounding/lightning protection question? I don't want to turn the thing into a lightning rod, but don't know what the accepted installation practice is. Any takers? -Will |
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wrote:
Thanks for the info all. Any additional comments on the grounding/lightning protection question? I don't want to turn the thing into a lightning rod, but don't know what the accepted installation practice is. Any takers? -Will Contact your local building department. They will let you know what the local codes are. Chip -- -------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:19:12 -0800, larkmore wrote:
Thanks for the info all. Any additional comments on the grounding/lightning protection question? I don't want to turn the thing into a lightning rod, but don't know what the accepted installation practice is. Any takers? -Will If you look at your TV/VCR/Other manual, you'll find they all say the antenna must be grounded. There are probably codes that say the same in your city/state. What you do is up to you. I haven't grounded mine since 1969 after my grounded antenna was hit twice. Maybe it's just coincidence that my ungrounded antenna hasn't been hit in the last 38 years.:-) This is not a recommendation of either way. You decide. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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On Nov 7, 11:50 am, Wes Newell wrote:
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:19:12 -0800, larkmore wrote: Thanks for the info all. Any additional comments on the grounding/lightning protection question? I don't want to turn the thing into a lightning rod, but don't know what the accepted installation practice is. Any takers? -Will If you look at your TV/VCR/Other manual, you'll find they all say the antenna must be grounded. There are probably codes that say the same in your city/state. What you do is up to you. I haven't grounded mine since 1969 after my grounded antenna was hit twice. Maybe it's just coincidence that my ungrounded antenna hasn't been hit in the last 38 years.:-) This is not a recommendation of either way. You decide. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder?http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experiencehttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 comparedhttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu helphttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php I have to confess I have not had a 'grounded' antenna in 20 years and am not convinced its a good thing. In California lightning is not that common and there are trees and power poles nearby that are taller than the antenna so I don't think its that big a risk. I should find the ham operator not far from here as his antenna is on a tower on a modest hill to find out if his rig has been hit. I had to use a a galvanic isolator on the coax between the 2 rooms the multiple computers are in to prevent audio hum from a ground loop. The 2 rooms were built 40 years apart and are on different power panels though there is only one feed into the house. GG |
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"G-squared" wrote in message
oups.com... On Nov 7, 11:50 am, Wes Newell wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:19:12 -0800, larkmore wrote: Thanks for the info all. Any additional comments on the grounding/lightning protection question? I don't want to turn the thing into a lightning rod, but don't know what the accepted installation practice is. Any takers? -Will If you look at your TV/VCR/Other manual, you'll find they all say the antenna must be grounded. There are probably codes that say the same in your city/state. What you do is up to you. I haven't grounded mine since 1969 after my grounded antenna was hit twice. Maybe it's just coincidence that my ungrounded antenna hasn't been hit in the last 38 years.:-) This is not a recommendation of either way. You decide. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder?http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experiencehttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 comparedhttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu helphttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php I have to confess I have not had a 'grounded' antenna in 20 years and am not convinced its a good thing. In California lightning is not that common and there are trees and power poles nearby that are taller than the antenna so I don't think its that big a risk. I should find the ham operator not far from here as his antenna is on a tower on a modest hill to find out if his rig has been hit. I had to use a a galvanic isolator on the coax between the 2 rooms the multiple computers are in to prevent audio hum from a ground loop. The 2 rooms were built 40 years apart and are on different power panels though there is only one feed into the house. GG Whether you think it is needed or not, it is required by electrical codes in the USA that ANY incoming lines be grounded to the electrical service ground. It simply seems foolish not to, IMO. But then I live in north central Florida and have serviced hundreds of systems that were struch by lightning and not properly grounded. Leonard |
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On Nov 8, 4:06 am, "Leonard Caillouet" wrote:
"G-squared" wrote in message snip I have to confess I have not had a 'grounded' antenna in 20 years and am not convinced its a good thing. In California lightning is not that common and there are trees and power poles nearby that are taller than the antenna so I don't think its that big a risk. I should find the ham operator not far from here as his antenna is on a tower on a modest hill to find out if his rig has been hit. I had to use a a galvanic isolator on the coax between the 2 rooms the multiple computers are in to prevent audio hum from a ground loop. The 2 rooms were built 40 years apart and are on different power panels though there is only one feed into the house. GG Whether you think it is needed or not, it is required by electrical codes in the USA that ANY incoming lines be grounded to the electrical service ground. It simply seems foolish not to, IMO. But then I live in north central Florida and have serviced hundreds of systems that were struch by lightning and not properly grounded. Leonard After seeing how a lightning bolt explodes a tree trunk, those little ground wires don't 'strike' me as being more than a decoration. Causing ground loops within the system seems more of a problem but maybe because that is every day. GG |
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"Leonard Caillouet" wrote:
"G-squared" wrote in message roups.com... On Nov 7, 11:50 am, Wes Newell wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:19:12 -0800, larkmore wrote: Thanks for the info all. Any additional comments on the grounding/lightning protection question? I don't want to turn the thing into a lightning rod, but don't know what the accepted installation practice is. Any takers? -Will If you look at your TV/VCR/Other manual, you'll find they all say the antenna must be grounded. There are probably codes that say the same in your city/state. What you do is up to you. I haven't grounded mine since 1969 after my grounded antenna was hit twice. Maybe it's just coincidence that my ungrounded antenna hasn't been hit in the last 38 years.:-) This is not a recommendation of either way. You decide. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder?http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experiencehttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 comparedhttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu helphttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php I have to confess I have not had a 'grounded' antenna in 20 years and am not convinced its a good thing. In California lightning is not that common and there are trees and power poles nearby that are taller than the antenna so I don't think its that big a risk. I should find the ham operator not far from here as his antenna is on a tower on a modest hill to find out if his rig has been hit. I had to use a a galvanic isolator on the coax between the 2 rooms the multiple computers are in to prevent audio hum from a ground loop. The 2 rooms were built 40 years apart and are on different power panels though there is only one feed into the house. GG Whether you think it is needed or not, it is required by electrical codes in the USA that ANY incoming lines be grounded to the electrical service ground. It simply seems foolish not to, IMO. But then I live in north central Florida and have serviced hundreds of systems that were struch by lightning and not properly grounded. Leonard leo you could not be any more totally correct..... I put up with constructive debates about various DVD formats, or upscalers, or any dam other thing that doesn't directly threaten somebodies life. But proposing that you should not earth ground a piece of metal sticking up from the top of ones house,,because your "opinion" thinks it doesn't need to be done, is insanely stupid, and verging on criminally irresponsible. Thanks for posting,,,,hope many closed minds on this group listen and ground, before worst happens. |
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:30:57 +0000, common_ sense wrote:
But proposing that you should not earth ground a piece of metal sticking up from the top of ones house,,because your "opinion" thinks it doesn't need to be done, is insanely stupid, and verging on criminally irresponsible. So then I should go up on the roof and ground the metal entry pole that goes into the attic. Then I should also ground the metal wind turbines. And lets not forget the all metal chimney cover at the highest location. You're a moron. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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On Nov 8, 11:28 am, G-squared wrote:
After seeing how alightningbolt explodes a tree trunk, those little ground wires don't 'strike' me as being more than a decoration. Causing ground loops within the system seems more of a problem but maybe because that is every day. G-squared knows only because he feels? One damning indication? No numbers. A responsible source provides numbers for a wire four time smaller than those "little ground wires": ... consider that a bare 18 AWG (1 mm diameter) copper wire, in air, normally will conduct at least 10 amperes safely, with very low self-heating temperature rise. If the current slowly rises, the temperature will increase until the melting temperature of 1065° C (1950° F) is achieved at about 83 A. This same temperature could be reached "instantly" by an 8x20 s pulse at a current of 61 kA. Above numbers from a 1 Oct 2007 professional engineering publication (Electrical Engineering Times); not from random speculation. That "little ground wire" can be expected to conduct 200,000 amps which is ten times more than current from the typically lightning bolt. G-squared should have been asking a question - not posting challenges based upon speculation without experience. That "little ground wire" is proven sufficient by fundamental theory and by 100+ years of experience all over world. Oh. And it is also required by code. |
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On Nov 9, 2:12 am, Wes Newell wrote:
So then I should go up on the roof and ground the metal entry pole that goes into the attic. Then I should also ground the metal wind turbines. ... You're a moron. Wes Newell's posts are repeatedly justified by mockery rather than science. From another thread where Wes makes the same claims: On Nov 6, 3:29 am, Wes Newell wrote: I never advised anyone of anything. I only provided my experiences and beliefs. I'll just say that my ungrounded antenna has not been hit bylightningin the last 38 years. In the year or two prior to that when it was grounded, it was hit twice, causing considerable damage. The logic implied by Wes Newell's example also proved Saddam had WMDs. First the example violates a fundamental principle from science. To know anything, one must have grasp of the fundamental principles involved as well as experimental evidence. What Wes has posted (disconnecting earth grounds) violates well proven science and electrical principles. To paraphrase Wes, I ran many stop signs and never had a crash. But when I was stopped at a stop sign, someone hit me. That proves that stopping at stop signs is dangerous. So I always run stop signs. Eliminate both damage and threats to human life by earthing the antenna. That is obvious even from science 100 years ago. Consult what professionals do to eliminate damage. Someone even removed grounds for same reasons that Wes Newell has posted: "Proper Copper Grounding Systems Stops Lightning Damage at Nebraska FM Station" at http://www.copper.org/applications/e.../nebraska.html Based on a belief that "too much" grounding was attracting lightning strikes, grounding connections on the tower's six sets of guy wires had been disconnected sometime in the past. This action may, in fact, have helped direct lightning discharge current down the antenna tower itself, bringing the strike closer to the studio/transmitter building. The original request was about installing grounds for protection. An application note entitled "The Need for Coordinated Protection" demonstrates the principles: http://www.erico.com/public/library/...es/tncr002.pdf Review it again to appreciate some often overlooked details. The antenna tower and building are treated as if separate structures. Any wire entering a structure must first connect to earth ground either directly or via a protector. The antenna tower has its own single point earth ground. To enhance protection (because a wire connects building to tower), then single point grounds for both structures are interconnected with a buried ground wire. Even an underground (telephone) wire must meet same earthing requirements as an overhead wire. Each entering wire in every cable must connect short (distance is critical) to the structure's earthing electrode before entering that structure (antenna tower or building). |
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On Nov 9, 7:45 pm, w_tom wrote:
On Nov 8, 11:28 am, G-squared wrote: After seeing how alightningbolt explodes a tree trunk, those little ground wires don't 'strike' me as being more than a decoration. Causing ground loops within the system seems more of a problem but maybe because that is every day. G-squared knows only because he feels? One damning indication? No numbers. A responsible source provides numbers for a wire four time smaller than those "little ground wires": ... consider that a bare 18 AWG (1 mm diameter) copper wire, in air, normally will conduct at least 10 amperes safely, with very low self-heating temperature rise. If the current slowly rises, the temperature will increase until the melting temperature of 1065° C (1950° F) is achieved at about 83 A. This same temperature could be reached "instantly" by an 8x20 s pulse at a current of 61 kA. Above numbers from a 1 Oct 2007 professional engineering publication (Electrical Engineering Times); not from random speculation. That "little ground wire" can be expected to conduct 200,000 amps which is ten times more than current from the typically lightning bolt. G-squared should have been asking a question - not posting challenges based upon speculation without experience. That "little ground wire" is proven sufficient by fundamental theory and by 100+ years of experience all over world. Oh. And it is also required by code. When I start with "I confess...", it hardly qualifies as a "challenge". What kind of numbers does one do regarding lightning? The number of hits ? The number of days it _wasn't_ hit ? Not to be snotty or a wiseass, how much current IS in a 'typical' lightning bolt. I was working in the transmitter building of a CBS affiliate with a 1100 foot tower when a lightning bolt hit it. The light was impressive - considering the building had no windows and the sound was the biggest subwoofer you could imagine. A motorist on a nearby freeway called in and said 'the WHOLE tower turned blue !'. Is this a typical lightning bolt or was it unusually large? Would the 18 gauge wire have conducted the burst to ground or would it have simply vaporized? It's not as big an issue at our house. California gets comparatively little lightning. My antenna is only a foot higher than the chimney in front of it. There are several trees within 50 feet that are 20+ feet taller. GG |
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Guys,
please... for next time.... Misspell words like grounding/lightning surge, and especially suppressor/protector. Posters in other groups already resort to this to avoid you-know-who's search engine from chasing down their discussions and infesting them with his Jehovah's Watchtower grounding deliriums. -- "There's nothing on it worthwhile, and we're not going to watch it in this household, and I don't want it in your intellectual diet." - Philo T. Farnsworth |
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On Nov 9, 11:18 pm, G-squared wrote:
... What kind of numbers does one do regarding lightning? The number of hits ? The number of days it _wasn't_ hit ? ... Would the 18 gauge wire have conducted the burst to ground or would it have simply vaporized? The average lightning strike is 20,000 amps. Since it is a current source, then voltage will only increase as necessary to make that current flow. Any most conductive path to earth means less energy dissipated in the conductor and more energy dissipated harmlessly in earth. We don't use 18 AWG wires for earthing even though that small wire would be sufficient in some cases. We want a wire that is sufficient for most every direct strike. In AC electric systems, the same ground wire required for post 1990 National Electrical Code will be more than sufficient to conduct a direct lightning strike. For telephones, a 12 AWG wire is sufficient. The rare 200,000 amp strike probably will never be observed by in their entire life. That 6 AWG should be sufficient (and hot) even during that most rare event. Most all trees (95%) struck by lightning have no apparent indication. Lightning strikes are that common and that unknown. However a lightning strike that does ignite sugars inside the tree can create an explosive event. A spark plug only in a car also does not have sufficient energy to move the car. How frequent are such events? On average, maybe once every seven years. Even less in CA. However that number can change significantly even in the same town. Geology does much to affect that number. One radio station in the hills over San Jose suffered massive transmitter damage because lightning connected PG&E 33K volts through the transformer into their 240 power lines. Just another example of why earthing of transformers are so important and why that low CA number can be high in some locations. In FL where lightning is more serious, then better earthing is installed. A routine use of Ufer grounds is demonstrated in these pictures: http://members.aol.com/gfretwell/ufer.jpg Major protection costs so little when planned and installed before the footings are poured. But we still build homes as if the transistor did not exist. Therefore protection is installed almost as an afterthought - the earth ground rod. What determines damage? Well how good is the earthing? Better earthing with a shortest connection to that earthing means no damage. Such threats are rare in so many locations. But the simplest protection costs so little if we integrate an earthing system into construction; or follow some simple rules such as all incoming wires must enter and be earthed at the same location. An inexpensive protection system (proper earthing) means lightning damage would not exist. That applies to the antenna as well. Not only should the antenna be grounded (for human safety and lighting protection). That antenna wire should route down to the single point earth ground, connect using a ground block, then rise back up to enter the building. Is this practical? Well, what is lightning's history in that neighborhood for the past ten years? |
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Ok, thanks again for the advice. I have decided to play it safe and
go with the group that advised grounding the antenna. Maybe I need it, maybe I don't, but I'm going to ground it. That said, what products or tecniques are out there for someone looking to install his own antenna? My house does have an earth grounding point located just outside the basement door (giant metal bar stuck in a concrete base taking it down into the earth.) This is connected to the house electrical service panel, so I'm very certain that this is what it is. Is it now simply a matter of connecting a fat wire (solid strand 6awg copper) to the shaft antenna and fastening the other end to this grounding point? Should I stake a new grounding point on the other side of the house if it makes the wire run shorter? I am reasonably handy with tools (multi-lingual instructions for putting together computer cases/new bicycles don't phase me) and I have an electrical and computer engineering degree so I know not to lick the electrical outlets. However, I am also wise enough to know that home electrical work and electrical engineering are leagues apart, so I turn to those who may know more than me about codes and common practices and what's available on the market. Phrase your instructions accordingly. :) -Will |
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 +0000, larkmore wrote:
Ok, thanks again for the advice. I have decided to play it safe and go with the group that advised grounding the antenna. Maybe I need it, maybe I don't, but I'm going to ground it. That said, what products or tecniques are out there for someone looking to install his own antenna? If instructions don't come with your antenna, they should be in your TV manual. My house does have an earth grounding point located just outside the basement door (giant metal bar stuck in a concrete base taking it down into the earth.) This is connected to the house electrical service panel, so I'm very certain that this is what it is. Is it now simply a matter of connecting a fat wire (solid strand 6awg copper) to the shaft antenna and fastening the other end to this grounding point? Should I stake a new grounding point on the other side of the house if it makes the wire run shorter? I am reasonably handy with tools (multi-lingual instructions for putting together computer cases/new bicycles don't phase me) and I have an electrical and computer engineering degree so I know not to lick the electrical outlets. However, I am also wise enough to know that home electrical work and electrical engineering are leagues apart, so I turn to those who may know more than me about codes and common practices and what's available on the market. Phrase your instructions accordingly. :) -Will http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/1171010.html -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 +0000, larkmore wrote:
http://www.channelmaster.com/pdf/AntInstallGuide.pdf -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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On Nov 12, 9:34 am, Wes Newell wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 +0000, larkmore wrote: http://www.channelmaster.com/pdf/AntInstallGuide.pdf -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder?http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experiencehttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 comparedhttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu helphttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php That link is broken. Is this the one? http://www.pctinternational.com/chan...stallation.pdf GG |
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:30:42 -0800, G-squared wrote:
On Nov 12, 9:34 am, Wes Newell wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 +0000, larkmore wrote: http://www.channelmaster.com/pdf/AntInstallGuide.pdf -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder?http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experiencehttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 comparedhttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu helphttp://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php That link is broken. Is this the one? http://www.pctinternational.com/chan...ter/0612/pdfs/ guide_AntennaInstallation.pdf GG Yep. Looks like the same one. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
Advice on antenna and installation
Wes Newell wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:30:57 +0000, common_ sense wrote: But proposing that you should not earth ground a piece of metal sticking up from the top of ones house,,because your "opinion" thinks it doesn't need to be done, is insanely stupid, and verging on criminally irresponsible. So then I should go up on the roof and ground the metal entry pole that goes into the attic. Then I should also ground the metal wind turbines. And lets not forget the all metal chimney cover at the highest location. You're a moron. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php More life threatening advise from our physics impaired friend Wes. |
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