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Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:35:36 GMT, "Brian W"
wrote:

Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

It says that E4 and More 4 are presently part of Freesat From Sky
which I have a card for but you do not get E4 and More 4 with this
card .

Stuart

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That info is wrong, as E4 and More4 are currently part of Sky's Variety Mix.
But it does look like all will be un-encrypted and on the 'BBC' Freesat
system next year.

"Stuart B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:35:36 GMT, "Brian W"
wrote:

Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

It says that E4 and More 4 are presently part of Freesat From Sky
which I have a card for but you do not get E4 and More 4 with this
card .

Stuart

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Brian W wrote:
That info is wrong, as E4 and More4 are currently part of Sky's
Variety Mix. But it does look like all will be un-encrypted and on
the 'BBC' Freesat system next year.

They'll almost certainly still have DOGs so it makes no difference to me
whether or not they're encrypted.

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On 21/10/2007 22:15, Ar wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:11:08 +0100, Stuart B scribed:

It says that E4 and More 4 are presently part of Freesat From Sky
which I have a card for but you do not get E4 and More 4 with this
card .

I've an idea, move to Astra 1 satellite and don't pay $ky a penny for
any EPG listing. Millions of £££ saved.

Sounds like they'll be moving to the narrow beam on astra-2D when they
move from FreesatFromSky to Freesat they *WON'T* need to pay for a
murdoch EPG listing (but presumably they will choose to do so so they
don't disappear from Murdoch boxes when they change from FTV to FTA)

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"Brian W" wrote in message
...

"Stuart B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:35:36 GMT, "Brian W"
wrote:

Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

It says that E4 and More 4 are presently part of Freesat From Sky
which I have a card for but you do not get E4 and More 4 with this
card .

Stuart That info is wrong, as E4 and More4 are currently part of Sky's
Variety Mix.
But it does look like all will be un-encrypted and on the 'BBC' Freesat
system next year.

It is down to the original E4 deal contract with Sky which got them out if
EPG fees. It always ended March 2008, so to say this is old "news"
understates it.

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Great news! I was kinda daring to hope - I could see no reason why
they would let Film 4 go clear unless it was a toe in the water ...

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:35:36 GMT, "Brian W"
wrote:

Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

C4/E4/more4 to go FTA, join Freesat
 

"Brian W" wrote in message
...
Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

This is good news. I may consider getting a dish next year. Is Astra2D a
different satellite? Also, is Men & Motors still available on Freesat?

Peter

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"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

"Brian W" wrote in message
...
Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

This is good news. I may consider getting a dish next year. Is Astra2D a
different satellite? Also, is Men & Motors still available on Freesat?

M&M is broadcast free-to-air, as with other ITV channels.

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"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

Is Astra2D a different satellite?

It depends what you mean by different. It is one of the group of Astra 2
satellites all in the same orbital position that are used for UK satellite
TV including Sky.

It is the same individual satellite in that position that is used for the
FTA broadcasts of the BBC channels, and has a fairly narrow footprint in an
attempt to restrict coverage to the UK. See
http://www.astra.lu/consumer/uk/how-...ints/index.php.

Channel 4 is currently on Astra 2A which has a wider footprint.

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In article , Albert scribeth
thus
"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

Is Astra2D a different satellite?

It depends what you mean by different. It is one of the group of Astra 2
satellites all in the same orbital position that are used for UK satellite
TV including Sky.

It is the same individual satellite in that position that is used for the
FTA broadcasts of the BBC channels, and has a fairly narrow footprint in an
attempt to restrict coverage to the UK. See
http://www.astra.lu/consumer/uk/how-...ints/index.php.

Channel 4 is currently on Astra 2A which has a wider footprint.



It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....
--
Tony Sayer

C4/E4/more4 to go FTA, join Freesat
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Albert scribeth
thus
"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

Is Astra2D a different satellite?

It depends what you mean by different. It is one of the group of Astra 2
satellites all in the same orbital position that are used for UK satellite
TV including Sky.

It is the same individual satellite in that position that is used for the
FTA broadcasts of the BBC channels, and has a fairly narrow footprint in
an
attempt to restrict coverage to the UK. See
http://www.astra.lu/consumer/uk/how-...ints/index.php.

Channel 4 is currently on Astra 2A which has a wider footprint.



It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....

I've been saying this for years Tony, especially with Liddle's selling
receivers for around £39.00.. cheaper than an aerial!

--
Tony Sayer

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FIVE are bound to follow C4 with this move from FTV to FTA!

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Commander Gideon wrote:
FIVE are bound to follow C4 with this move from FTV to FTA!

Now they've reintroduced the DOG I won't be watching anyway.

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In uk.tech.digital-tv Commander Gideon wrote:
: FIVE are bound to follow C4 with this move from FTV to FTA!

FIVE have said that they are happy with being FTV!

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Brian McIlwrath wrote:
In uk.tech.digital-tv Commander Gideon wrote:
FIVE are bound to follow C4 with this move from FTV to FTA!

FIVE have said that they are happy with being FTV!

They may change their mind when they're the only one left.

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On Oct 22, 3:33 am, "Peter Barns" wrote:
"Brian W" wrote in message

... Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Good news indeed

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...o_join_freesat

This is good news. I may consider getting a dish next year. Is Astra2D a
different satellite? Also, is Men & Motors still available on Freesat?

Peter

M&M's viewer outs himself!

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"Adrian A" wrote in message
...
Commander Gideon wrote:
FIVE are bound to follow C4 with this move from FTV to FTA!

Now they've reintroduced the DOG I won't be watching anyway.


And nor will I now they have DOG ****.

Why is it Channel 5's DOG **** was (re-)introduced, btw? It's not a question
of "nice to meet you / how do you do". The ****ing things are imposed on
viewers by dictate regardless of whether one wants them or not.

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"Commander Gideon" wrote in message
...
FIVE are bound to follow C4 with this move from FTV to FTA!





I don't think they will. I don't think Channel 5 have any interest in
analogue/terrestrial broadcasting. DOG **** smeared channels are aimed at
satellite users and channels with very small audiences not mass markets.

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"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...

"Commander Gideon" wrote in message
...
FIVE are bound to follow C4 with this move from FTV to FTA!

I don't think they will. I don't think Channel 5 have any interest in
analogue/terrestrial broadcasting. DOG **** smeared channels are aimed at
satellite users and channels with very small audiences not mass markets.


What has their interest in analogue/terrestrial got to do with whether
'five' stays FTV or changes to FTA?

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Am Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:30:34 GMT schrieb Ivan:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....

Is that not what the BBC initiated Freesat system is all about? A
"red-button" digibox for those that want/need it, or if you want all
channels FTA with any FTA receiver.

I've been saying this for years Tony, especially with Liddle's selling
receivers for around £39.00.. cheaper than an aerial!

Technically a DVB-S FTA receiver is not much different to the DVB-T box
sold in supermarkets for less than £20. So with sufficient demand that
price should also be possible for FTA DVB-S receivers. On the continent in
France or Germany you can get DVB-S boxes for as little as 30 Euros.

Andreas

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In article , Andreas
Schulze-Bäing scribeth thus
Am Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:30:34 GMT schrieb Ivan:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....

Is that not what the BBC initiated Freesat system is all about? A
"red-button" digibox for those that want/need it, or if you want all
channels FTA with any FTA receiver.

I've been saying this for years Tony, especially with Liddle's selling
receivers for around £39.00.. cheaper than an aerial!

Technically a DVB-S FTA receiver is not much different to the DVB-T box
sold in supermarkets for less than £20. So with sufficient demand that
price should also be possible for FTA DVB-S receivers. On the continent in
France or Germany you can get DVB-S boxes for as little as 30 Euros.

Andreas

Yes Andreas over there you don't see a satellite dish the way the
English do. Its a sort of reverse status symbol here;!...
--
Tony Sayer

C4/E4/more4 to go FTA, join Freesat
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Albert
scribeth
thus
"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

Is Astra2D a different satellite?

It depends what you mean by different. It is one of the group of
Astra 2
satellites all in the same orbital position that are used for UK
satellite
TV including Sky.

It is the same individual satellite in that position that is used for
the
FTA broadcasts of the BBC channels, and has a fairly narrow footprint
in an
attempt to restrict coverage to the UK. See
http://www.astra.lu/consumer/uk/how-...ints/index.php.

Channel 4 is currently on Astra 2A which has a wider footprint.



It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised
a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without
having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....
--
Tony Sayer




Tony, I've told you before. Arqiva is very non-U!!!!


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

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"Ivan" wrote in message
.uk...

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Albert
scribeth
thus
"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

Is Astra2D a different satellite?

It depends what you mean by different. It is one of the group of
Astra 2
satellites all in the same orbital position that are used for UK
satellite
TV including Sky.

It is the same individual satellite in that position that is used for
the
FTA broadcasts of the BBC channels, and has a fairly narrow footprint
in an
attempt to restrict coverage to the UK. See
http://www.astra.lu/consumer/uk/how-...ints/index.php.

Channel 4 is currently on Astra 2A which has a wider footprint.



It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised
a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses
a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without
having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....

I've been saying this for years Tony, especially with Liddle's selling
receivers for around £39.00.. cheaper than an aerial!

--
Tony Sayer





Clearly not a Lidl customer
--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com?

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"Woody" wrote in message
...

"Ivan" wrote in message
.uk...

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Albert scribeth
thus
"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

Is Astra2D a different satellite?

It depends what you mean by different. It is one of the group of Astra
2
satellites all in the same orbital position that are used for UK
satellite
TV including Sky.

It is the same individual satellite in that position that is used for
the
FTA broadcasts of the BBC channels, and has a fairly narrow footprint in
an
attempt to restrict coverage to the UK. See
http://www.astra.lu/consumer/uk/how-...ints/index.php.

Channel 4 is currently on Astra 2A which has a wider footprint.



It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....

I've been saying this for years Tony, especially with Liddle's selling
receivers for around £39.00.. cheaper than an aerial!

--
Tony Sayer





Clearly not a Lidl customer
--

Well it ain't my fault if the Germans can't spell proper!

Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com?

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In article , Woody
scribeth thus

"Ivan" wrote in message
o.uk...

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Albert
scribeth
thus
"Peter Barns" wrote in message
...

Is Astra2D a different satellite?

It depends what you mean by different. It is one of the group of
Astra 2
satellites all in the same orbital position that are used for UK
satellite
TV including Sky.

It is the same individual satellite in that position that is used for
the
FTA broadcasts of the BBC channels, and has a fairly narrow footprint
in an
attempt to restrict coverage to the UK. See
http://www.astra.lu/consumer/uk/how-...ints/index.php.

Channel 4 is currently on Astra 2A which has a wider footprint.



It makes me wonder why someone like Arquiva or National grid wattless
hasn't gone to the terrestrial broadcasters and arranged or organised
a
system that uses a satellite via ASTRA in the 28.2 cluster that uses
a
simple digital box and dish for a proper Freesat service without
having
to have a card, free or not from Sky, and reliance on the proprietary
Skybox!.....

I've been saying this for years Tony, especially with Liddle's selling
receivers for around £39.00.. cheaper than an aerial!

--
Tony Sayer





Clearly not a Lidl customer

There isn't one around here still we've got Digital and for that matter
analogue receivers by Manhattan, Echostar, Fortec and the Dreamboxen;!.

And a couple of PCI cards too!.. And an old skyboxe somewhere....

--
Tony Sayer